Isleworth_Bee
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Didnt cover himself in glory for the ball into our box for their second.Didn't lose because of him and for a moment thought he was going get us the equaliser - not to be sadly.
Didnt cover himself in glory for the ball into our box for their second.Didn't lose because of him and for a moment thought he was going get us the equaliser - not to be sadly.
I'd have to see it again tbh the red mist had already descended by then.Didnt cover himself in glory for the ball into our box for their second.
Not great.I'd have to see it again tbh the red mist had already descended by then.
But apart from that can you remember him contributing anything at all?Didn't lose because of him and for a moment thought he was going get us the equaliser - not to be sadly.
That's not a bad idea, trouble is we need him for the first team, and can't see the luxury of allowing him another (not that important game) on his schedule.The harder the lad tries at the moment the worse it gets. Needs a bit of time in the B team, no pressure & just to get his touch & confidence back.
Not much he could do, practically everything going forward once he was on was down the left (usually overhit passes that dribbled out for a goalkick if Toney hadnt given away a foul already).But apart from that can you remember him contributing anything at all?
You probably hit the nail,on the head.Last year Bryan played with two very different players up front.Ollie ran defences ragged,and Said always attracted the attention of two defenders.Ivan is a very different player,a goal machine for sure,but comparatively static and doesn’t open up the channels like Ollie did.Like Canós and Fosu, Mbeumo's contributions are severely limited once Toney gets into a battle with the centre half. Particularly when we're playing against a back 5, as it leaves 2 defenders on our wide attackers. It's only Ghoddos and Marcondes that regularly get up with the attackers in those situations, although Jensen slipping the ball through will also open a defence up. Of the three, Bryan still leads in goal involvements this season, though, albeit Sergi has more actual goals.
So be proactive, do something about it and get involved. Don’t just wait around to get the ball.Not much he could do, practically everything going forward once he was on was down the left (usually overhit passes that dribbled out for a goalkick if Toney hadnt given away a foul already).
The problem is that Bryan had a good start to the season but his form/involvement has dropped off dramatically.
Equal third for assists in the Championship..
Playing in the B Team will really do his confidence the world of good.The harder the lad tries at the moment the worse it gets. Needs a bit of time in the B team, no pressure & just to get his touch & confidence back.
AaaaaarrrrrrggggggghhhhhhhhDo not understate the possible impact of long Covid, especially in an elite sportsman, let alone anyone else.
We of all clubs will be all over the players' health, fitness and performance stats so I would be very surprised if anyone with an inhibiting condition would be anywhere near our first team. The lad is young, still learning the game and is out of form. He is too good not to come good again.Do not understate the possible impact of long Covid, especially in an elite sportsman, let alone anyone else.
His form went last season and hasn't come back. I said in the summer I'd take what we paid for him. It's just a feeling that he now has a mental block with us and probably needs a fresh start. How many times do we see the sad face after a mistake or wasted opportunity?You probably hit the nail,on the head.Last year Bryan played with two very different players up front.Ollie ran defences ragged,and Said always attracted the attention of two defenders.Ivan is a very different player,a goal machine for sure,but comparatively static and doesn’t open up the channels like Ollie did.
We are playing a different style which generally has worked for us,but maybe not bringing the best out of Bryan.
Testing negative any time after a positive result doesn't mean you can't feel the ill effects of the virus. For example, covid could cause pneumonia and many weeks after someone is no longer covid positive the pneumonia could still be present.Aaaaaarrrrrrggggggghhhhhhhh
I had to scream.......
Utter rubbish.
He had one positive test. Then two negative...... within two weeks!!!
The point being that our medical team monitor ALL of our players, constantly.Testing negative any time after a positive result doesn't mean you can't feel the ill effects of the virus. For example, covid could cause pneumonia and many weeks after someone is no longer covid positive the pneumonia could still be present.
This is getting ridiculous.Testing negative any time after a positive result doesn't mean you can't feel the ill effects of the virus. For example, covid could cause pneumonia and many weeks after someone is no longer covid positive the pneumonia could still be present.
We of all clubs will be all over the players' health, fitness and performance stats so I would be very surprised if anyone with an inhibiting condition would be anywhere near our first team. The lad is young, still learning the game and is out of form. He is too good not to come good again.
You are in denial if you don't believe in the potential long term ill effects of a serious viral infection. Long covid is sadly an absolute reality potentially affecting around 10% of Covid infected patients regardless of severity of symptoms at the time of infection and a profound reason why we should behave to minimise the the risk of this pandemic and behave socially which sadly many have failed to do. Even in its mildest form the consequences in an elite athlete could have significant repercussions on their performance hence my comments. For Gods sake take this seriously.This is getting ridiculous.
IT ISN'T LONG COVID!!!!!!!!!
Well you say that but what about Benrahma, his underlying problem wasn't identified until the superior PL medical team at West Ham got the mits on himThe point being that our medical team monitor ALL of our players, constantly.
None would be near the first team if they weren't fit enough.
Possibly nasty but definitely accurate ..... this drop in form has been going on since last July !What a nasty little post. Well done mate.
You are in denial if you don't believe in the potential long term ill effects of a serious viral infection. Long covid is sadly an absolute reality potentially affecting around 10% of Covid infected patients regardless of severity of symptoms at the time of infection and a profound reason why we should behave to minimise the the risk of this pandemic and behave socially which sadly many have failed to do. Even in its mildest form the consequences in an elite athlete could have significant repercussions on their performance hence my comments. For Gods sake take this seriously.
We fully understand about the long term effects of covid and the impact of long covid.You are in denial if you don't believe in the potential long term ill effects of a serious viral infection. Long covid is sadly an absolute reality potentially affecting around 10% of Covid infected patients regardless of severity of symptoms at the time of infection and a profound reason why we should behave to minimise the the risk of this pandemic and behave socially which sadly many have failed to do. Even in its mildest form the consequences in an elite athlete could have significant repercussions on their performance hence my comments. For Gods sake take this seriously.
Jeez.....we have some people.You are in denial if you don't believe in the potential long term ill effects of a serious viral infection. Long covid is sadly an absolute reality potentially affecting around 10% of Covid infected patients regardless of severity of symptoms at the time of infection and a profound reason why we should behave to minimise the the risk of this pandemic and behave socially which sadly many have failed to do. Even in its mildest form the consequences in an elite athlete could have significant repercussions on their performance hence my comments. For Gods sake take this seriously.
Jeez.....we have some people.
IF HE WASN’T FIT TO PLAY HE WOULDN’T BE IN THE STARTING XI ffs.
What are some people on?
If only he had a team of world class sports scientists who could asses his fitness and find out he is suffering then they wouldn't play him.You are in denial if you don't believe in the potential long term ill effects of a serious viral infection. Long covid is sadly an absolute reality potentially affecting around 10% of Covid infected patients regardless of severity of symptoms at the time of infection and a profound reason why we should behave to minimise the the risk of this pandemic and behave socially which sadly many have failed to do. Even in its mildest form the consequences in an elite athlete could have significant repercussions on their performance hence my comments. For Gods sake take this seriously.
And?!?Forty-nine years of working in the NHS as a physician.
No one is denying long covid exists they're saying he doesn't have it as if he did our medical team would have picked up on it by nowLong Covid is a reality and so are false positive tests for Sars-Covid-2 infection. I am absolutely not advocating that any of our players have long Covid consequences. I am advocating, however, how serious this pandemic is and that there may be long term consequences and that in an elite athlete that even a minuscule detriment to their performance could impact on their performance. I don't think that that is an unreasonable supposition.
Covid has been famous for effecting everyone who tests positive equally right?It has nothing to do with one positive test!! We’ve had others test positive too!!
Long-covid isn't something that easily identifiable with a test. There may be very slight lasting respiratory damage which wouldn't show on imaging, but could potentially effect function. Bryan has looked gassed early on in games, so to unequivocally rule out any long-term lasting effects of the virus are naive.No one is denying long covid exists they're saying he doesn't have it as if he did our medical team would have picked up on it by now
Had it been a recent test then you may have a point but I think they'd have known something by now seeing as it's been what 9 months since his 1 positive result? People need to accept he's just out of form and low on confidence and stop looking for things that rean't there.Long-covid isn't something that easily identifiable with a test. There may be very slight lasting respiratory damage which wouldn't show on imaging, but could potentially effect function. Bryan has looked gassed early on in games, so to unequivocally rule out any long-term lasting effects of the virus are naive.
It's called long-covid because it causes long-term damage to the lungs. Respiratory illnesses are very complicated, especially ones born out of a new type of respiratory infection such as covid which has killed millions and effected many more. We can accept the repercussions of smoking many years after someone quits may play a part in long-term respiratory damage. The point is, because it is a relative unknown, especially the long-term effects and because something is not quantifiable with a test or medical imaging doesn't mean it's not impacting on that persons respiratory function still. He may well be physically unaffected by it and could just be out of form, we don't know.Had it been a recent test then you may have a point but I think they'd have known something by now seeing as it's been what 9 months since his 1 positive result? People need to accept he's just out of form and low on confidence and stop looking for things that rean't there.
Which is why the constant comments about "could he have it" are pointless, at this moment in time we have to assume the club would pick up if there was even a slight issue with him so for now let's just assume he is out of form and low on confidence and move on.It's called long-covid because it causes long-term damage to the lungs. Respiratory illnesses are very complicated, especially ones born out of a new type of respiratory infection such as covid which has killed millions and effected many more. We can accept the repercussions of smoking many years after someone quits may play a part in long-term respiratory damage. The point is, because it is a relative unknown, especially the long-term effects and because something is not quantifiable with a test or medical imaging doesn't mean it's not impacting on that persons respiratory function still. He may well be physically unaffected by it and could just be out of form, we don't know.
yeah but it’s nothing to do with MbeumoYou are in denial if you don't believe in the potential long term ill effects of a serious viral infection. Long covid is sadly an absolute reality potentially affecting around 10% of Covid infected patients regardless of severity of symptoms at the time of infection and a profound reason why we should behave to minimise the the risk of this pandemic and behave socially which sadly many have failed to do. Even in its mildest form the consequences in an elite athlete could have significant repercussions on their performance hence my comments. For Gods sake take this seriously.
he doesn’tI'm not a medical know all however, I was told there is such a
thing called Long Covid. A friend of mine told me a mate of
his had Covid over six months ago and still feels very weak.
His mate is early thirties. Maybe Bryan has something like that.
nothing to do with CovidIt's called long-covid because it causes long-term damage to the lungs. Respiratory illnesses are very complicated, especially ones born out of a new type of respiratory infection such as covid which has killed millions and effected many more. We can accept the repercussions of smoking many years after someone quits may play a part in long-term respiratory damage. The point is, because it is a relative unknown, especially the long-term effects and because something is not quantifiable with a test or medical imaging doesn't mean it's not impacting on that persons respiratory function still. He may well be physically unaffected by it and could just be out of form, we don't know.
Missing theI'm not a medical know all however, I was told there is such a
thing called Long Covid. A friend of mine told me a mate of
his had Covid over six months ago and still feels very weak.
His mate is early thirties. Maybe Bryan has something like that.
We do know !It's called long-covid because it causes long-term damage to the lungs. Respiratory illnesses are very complicated, especially ones born out of a new type of respiratory infection such as covid which has killed millions and effected many more. We can accept the repercussions of smoking many years after someone quits may play a part in long-term respiratory damage. The point is, because it is a relative unknown, especially the long-term effects and because something is not quantifiable with a test or medical imaging doesn't mean it's not impacting on that persons respiratory function still. He may well be physically unaffected by it and could just be out of form, we don't know.
I don't know if it was the same incident, but there was one where BM starts his run, then checks it as near offside, and as he checks it the pass came. something was out, timing of his run or the pass, I don't know, but it looked bad.The lads form has gone.
There was a point in the game last night where Jensen had the ball in midfield and played it into a channel for Bryan to run onto and he just didn't anticipate it at all and it ran out for a goal kick.
An in form confident Mbuemo would have started a run, chased it down and if it had of run off the park you applaud the effort.
If he had made the ball then who knows what happened next.
Sad to see.
Let's hope he can turn it around.