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I like the way he and Toney chat on the pitch before and after games . Clearly alot of mutual respect and support.
 
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Last season it must have helped having Said for him, not just because opponents would be more likely to double up on him and leave Bryan more space but also having another Francophone around for the 80% of the week that wasn’t a match or the morning build up to one. Ditto Jeanvier. For a young man alone in a new country that would make a huge difference, as would being able to enjoy living in London and having friends to share it with. Loads of us have had a tough time with lockdown even with friends and family close by, imagine it where you are alone, can’t travel to see family and the guys you could have a decent chat with at work have gone. Even last season it might well be that isolation which impacted him more than all the long covid people baselessly speculated over. Isolating after his one positive test might have been the worst thing when already having to live in the new isolated world of last year.

Apart from that, the other thing he’s missed is having JDS playing inside and as well as last season. As another young player in his second full season here he’s not been as consistently dangerous as he was last season. As a team game their personal performances may subtly have impacted each other. Fine margins. We might well see both looking rejuvenated in a couple of weeks and Bryan being able to ignore all those things because of the confidence of everything clicking.
 

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He is in the top assist and goal contributors in the championship, the chances he creates and his work rate are top draw. His performance against Forest and Derby in the first half was excellent and for him to be taken off before Canos was laughable. He has been unlucky with hitting the post and goal line blocks and things just not falling his way. He is our most important winger by a country mile, it's not even close, he is pure class.
Yes hes doing well, but still way below the standards of last season IMO. Hes our best winger but whats his competition?

Im not writing him off, but his passing and link up play has been very frustrating this season.

In a typical Brentford set up i would like to see our wide players hitting 10+ goals a season. Hes been way off that this season. More assists yes so that balances it out a little.

I still think the deep line TF has us playing this year is killing our threat in advanced areas.

Another 6 goals in the remaining games would be a good return of 10 goals compared to last seasons 16.
 

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Yes hes doing well, but still way below the standards of last season IMO. Hes our best winger but whats his competition?

Im not writing him off, but his passing and link up play has been very frustrating this season.

In a typical Brentford set up i would like to see our wide players hitting 10+ goals a season. Hes been way off that this season. More assists yes so that balances it out a little.

I still think the deep line TF has us playing this year is killing our threat in advanced areas.

Another 6 goals in the remaining games would be a good return of 10 goals compared to last seasons 16.
Hopefully he will crack-on over the next few seasons.

Worst case scenario? He is worth three or four times what we paid for him even if it's to a mid-table Championship club or ambitious division 1 outfit.

But I think he will go on a goal-scoring run next season.
 
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Hopefully he will crack-on over the next few seasons.

Worst case scenario? He is worth three or four times what we paid for him even if it's to a mid-table Championship club or ambitious division 1 outfit.

But I think he will go on a goal-scoring run next season.
It would be a very ambitious league 1 club that would pay 3 or 4 times what we paid😉
 
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Hopefully he will crack-on over the next few seasons.

Worst case scenario? He is worth three or four times what we paid for him even if it's to a mid-table Championship club or ambitious division 1 outfit.

But I think he will go on a goal-scoring run next season.
That would be £20m.
 
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I suspect that currently nobody would take a punt on him or offer anything like what we would have been expecting for him.

We don’t sell badly or for less than we expect so BM will be with us next season and hopefully come back refreshed and a new man ready to kick on.
 

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Yes hes doing well, but still way below the standards of last season IMO. Hes our best winger but whats his competition?

To be honest I was fairly underwhelmed by him on a few occasions last season when he drifted out of a game, was invisible or ducked a header but he kept popping up with goals which hid any deficiencies. This season he has missed 3-4 absolute howlers, real head in hands moments and has also put 5-6 curlers just wide or onto the post that flew in last year. Had he been a bit luckier/clinical he could easily be on 10-11 goals now and nobody would notice his lack of contribution at times which is probably similar to last year.
 
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To be honest I was fairly underwhelmed by him on a few occasions last season when he drifted out of a game, was invisible or ducked a header but he kept popping up with goals which hid any deficiencies. This season he has missed 3-4 absolute howlers, real head in hands moments and has also put 5-6 curlers just wide or onto the post that flew in last year. Had he been a bit luckier/clinical he could easily be on 10-11 goals now and nobody would notice his lack of contribution at times which is probably similar to last year.
This is fair - last season the luck was with him with more of his finishes and this season, not so much. It is also worth remembering he's young and perhaps 5 years off his peak. Even in a disappointing season he's scored as many as the top scorer at, for instance Forest. He could and probably will add a few more goals this season and even if he doesn't, averaging 10 goals a season over 2 seasons is a perfectly decent return for a winger.
 

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This is fair - last season the luck was with him with more of his finishes and this season, not so much. It is also worth remembering he's young and perhaps 5 years off his peak. Even in a disappointing season he's scored as many as the top scorer at, for instance Forest. He could and probably will add a few more goals this season and even if he doesn't, averaging 10 goals a season over 2 seasons is a perfectly decent return for a winger.
plus joint most assists in the champ i believe ?
 
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was a shambolic performance again today.....i like this kid but hes not doing himself any favours with that sort of display
 

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Thing is he isn't a bad player at this level. Just bang average and IMO wouldn't be a guaranteed starter in better teams. Sergi is the same. Neither is good enough to realise our ambitions. I believe we tried and failed to bring in a wide attacker in january but that might be rumour.
 

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As long as he's getting into those positions and creating those chances for himself and others then he'll start. It's just not quite happening for him at the moment, last season he'd have volleyed that chance in the box into the top corner or the shot from outside the box would have nestled in the net.. Just timing issues more than anything. Maybe he's trying that bit too hard? You could see how frustrated he was after he didn't connect with that volley. He's still a threat though and his work off the ball is in general very good. Just need him to bag one against Brum on Tuesday and get that demon off his back.
 

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This is fair - last season the luck was with him with more of his finishes and this season, not so much. It is also worth remembering he's young and perhaps 5 years off his peak. Even in a disappointing season he's scored as many as the top scorer at, for instance Forest. He could and probably will add a few more goals this season and even if he doesn't, averaging 10 goals a season over 2 seasons is a perfectly decent return for a winger.
But it's not just about scoring goals is it ?, it's about his overall performance and what contribution he makes to the team. I'm hoping his game picks up but if you consider both him and Canos as wingers creating good chances for Toney it's just not happening. Far too late now for Thomas to change it as he doesn't have the players with the quality to go on a winning run.
 

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Watkins and Said's threat and ability last season allowed him to shine........................... But im now coming to the conclusion that it also hid the fact that he might not be as good as we think. His form has been pants for a year now. :sueme: He should be the one stepping up and dominating games from wide areas.

Needs to do better.
 

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As long as he's getting into those positions and creating those chances for himself and others then he'll start. It's just not quite happening for him at the moment, last season he'd have volleyed that chance in the box into the top corner or the shot from outside the box would have nestled in the net.. Just timing issues more than anything. Maybe he's trying that bit too hard? You could see how frustrated he was after he didn't connect with that volley. He's still a threat though and his work off the ball is in general very good. Just need him to bag one against Brum on Tuesday and get that demon off his back.
Incredibly frustrating to watch him at the moment. The air kicks, the miss hit shots..... yet I fundamentally agree with you. He is getting into the right positions, is making the right decisions it's the confidence and the execution that's lacking. It was a nice moment when Canos rushed over to him after a missed volley and hauled him up and gave him consoling words. His team mates realise he's a decent young player just struggling at the moment and so should we.

I think Fosu might get the nod on Tuesday but if Brian plays I'm praying he does get a goal to give him the boost his confidence needs.
 

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Must be feeling the pressure as a result of Toney no longer scoring from open play
 

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A five million pound bang average player is a bit of a conundrum to be sure. Maybe he's missing the other parts of the BMW more than we realise.
 

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A five million pound bang average player is a bit of a conundrum to be sure. Maybe he's missing the other parts of the BMW more than we realise.
He's clearly got quality, nothing like bang average and is still proving assists this season even out of form. He's going to be very good one day this lad, I feel that people forget just how young he is.
 

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He has been bang average at best since last season restarted
Disagree, he's maybe not hit the heights of last season but he's still equal second in the Championship assists table and he's involved in most of the best attacking moments we have. Ok, he's missed a few but he's getting into the right areas, making the right runs off the ball and in general picking the right passes. He's clearly working hard on his right foot and hopefully we'll see the benefits of that sooner or later. Perhaps he could have done with being taken out of the spotlight for a bit but we've not got anyone better for that role and I think he's one of those who just needs to play through it. I've every confidence he'll hit the heights again even if we have to wait until next season to see the best of him..
 

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Disagree, he's maybe not hit the heights of last season but he's still equal second in the Championship assists table and he's involved in most of the best attacking moments we have. Ok, he's missed a few but he's getting into the right areas, making the right runs off the ball and in general picking the right passes. He's clearly working hard on his right foot and hopefully we'll see the benefits of that sooner or later. Perhaps he could have done with being taken out of the spotlight for a bit but we've not got anyone better for that role and I think he's one of those who just needs to play through it. I've every confidence he'll hit the heights again even if we have to wait until next season to see the best of him..
He hasn’t come close to last seasons performances.

Next season could be a very non event season all together in the championship for us if our recruitment is hit as hard as feared.
So he can find his form again in our push for mid table
 

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Perhaps last season he excelled but this he's returned to the mean.....it also must be harder for the young foreign players who cannot see friends or perhaps more importantly any family for the best part of a year.
 

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Perhaps last season he excelled but this he's returned to the mean.....it also must be harder for the young foreign players who cannot see friends or perhaps more importantly any family for the best part of a year.
He’s said that being isolated from his family has been hard for him. It can’t help that there aren’t any other native French speakers in the squad either.
 

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He hasn’t come close to last seasons performances.

Next season could be a very non event season all together in the championship for us if our recruitment is hit as hard as feared.
So he can find his form again in our push for mid table
thats it. Keep positive!! 😂
 

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Incredibly frustrating to watch him at the moment. The air kicks, the miss hit shots..... yet I fundamentally agree with you. He is getting into the right positions, is making the right decisions it's the confidence and the execution that's lacking. It was a nice moment when Canos rushed over to him after a missed volley and hauled him up and gave him consoling words. His team mates realise he's a decent young player just struggling at the moment and so should we.

I think Fosu might get the nod on Tuesday but if Brian plays I'm praying he does get a goal to give him the boost his confidence needs.
Maybe Canos is in the same boat!
 

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I was responding to another poster with the bang average tag. For the record I don't think for a minute that he's bang average. We paid a record fee as I remember for him, £5 million plus. Put these two together and to me it's a bit of a conundrum.
 

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For goodness sake, he is still a boy .

Before joining Brentford he had never played outside his region , being born an hour away from Troyes, let alone his country.

He openly admits he has missed his family, as someone else mentioned there are no other native French speakers in the squad, he has had COVID and an injury, as well as being asked to play a different role at times this season .

Bryan is a French U21 international, any idea how tough it is to get into that group (!) he has 19 goals and 19 assists from 78 Championship appearances, a goal contribution every 147 minutes !

I would be amazed if the club did not see him as having £25m "potential".

He has not played to last season's sky high level and he knows that , but only one player in the Championship has more assists , the one thing he is not is "bang average" and that just further highlights how many bad judges there are on this forum .

It stuns me how much football people watch and how little they know !

Maupay and Sawyers were "awful" , Ollie can't play through the middle, on and on and on, it is not "opinion", it is stupidity !

Now the whole club is "rubbish", there are recruitment issues (!) and apparently we should write off not just this season, but next !

We have 90 points post lockdown from 47 games, 88 points from 46 would get you promoted 19 times out of 20, if the season ended today, we are currently in the joint highest position of my lifetime ,made the last four of the League Cup and have a brand new stadium.............still not good enough for some !

Not so long ago the only move from Griffin Park would have been a ground share with Woking or to the Feltham Arena.

If I had been in a coma for 18 months and woke up to read this forum without looking at the league table, I would expect us to be back in League 1 or bottom of the Championship at best, what a joke ! We have lost 4 of the last 31 league games FFS !
 

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He's clearly working hard on his right foot and hopefully we'll see the benefits of that sooner or later.
This is the main problem with him. He is so one footed, even more so than say Jota. A great example of this was the chance on Saturday where he tried to get his head on the ball than stick out his right leg. I don't see where you get the idea he's working on that right foot.

He's so one footed he is ultra predictable.

He has the pace and when confidence is high a fantastic left foot.

I think his limitations however will mean he doesn't hit the heights of his first season, when he was an unknown and we had two other attacking options to worry teams.

He's still pretty useful and I hope he proves me wrong and becomes more than that, but at the moment I don't see it.
 

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This is the main problem with him. He is so one footed, even more so than say Jota. A great example of this was the chance on Saturday where he tried to get his head on the ball than stick out his right leg. I don't see where you get the idea he's working on that right foot.

He's so one footed he is ultra predictable.

He has the pace and when confidence is high a fantastic left foot.

I think his limitations however will mean he doesn't hit the heights of his first season, when he was an unknown and we had two other attacking options to worry teams.

He's still pretty useful and I hope he proves me wrong and becomes more than that, but at the moment I don't see it.
He's not as one footed as Jota, he can use his right. The cross for Fosu against Bournemouth springs to mind for one.
 

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For goodness sake, he is still a boy .

Before joining Brentford he had never played outside his region , being born an hour away from Troyes, let alone his country.

He openly admits he has missed his family, as someone else mentioned there are no other native French speakers in the squad, he has had COVID and an injury, as well as being asked to play a different role at times this season .

Bryan is a French U21 international, any idea how tough it is to get into that group (!) he has 19 goals and 19 assists from 78 Championship appearances, a goal contribution every 147 minutes !

I would be amazed if the club did not see him as having £25m "potential".

He has not played to last season's sky high level and he knows that , but only one player in the Championship has more assists , the one thing he is not is "bang average" and that just further highlights how many bad judges there are on this forum .

It stuns me how much football people watch and how little they know !

Maupay and Sawyers were "awful" , Ollie can't play through the middle, on and on and on, it is not "opinion", it is stupidity !

Now the whole club is "rubbish", there are recruitment issues (!) and apparently we should write off not just this season, but next !

We have 90 points post lockdown from 47 games, 88 points from 46 would get you promoted 19 times out of 20, if the season ended today, we are currently in the joint highest position of my lifetime ,made the last four of the League Cup and have a brand new stadium.............still not good enough for some !

Not so long ago the only move from Griffin Park would have been a ground share with Woking or to the Feltham Arena.

If I had been in a coma for 18 months and woke up to read this forum without looking at the league table, I would expect us to be back in League 1 or bottom of the Championship at best, what a joke ! We have lost 4 of the last 31 league games FFS !
Excellent post covering not just Brian but where we are as a club in general and which should be read and taken on board by many posters on here
 

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This is the main problem with him. He is so one footed, even more so than say Jota. A great example of this was the chance on Saturday where he tried to get his head on the ball than stick out his right leg. I don't see where you get the idea he's working on that right foot.
I think he totally misjudged the flight of the ball and made the wrong decision to go with his head rather than either foot.
 

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I don’t believe a player who was as good as the one we all saw suddenly becomes a bad player unable to rediscover that form. Bryan attained levels of performance that our other current wingers aren’t, IMO, capable of and for that reason, I don’t see why we won’t persist with him and hope a proper close season does him the world of good.
 

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Take the assist out the equation and his general 90 min performances have been VERY POOR!!
I hope he rediscovers his form but this season he’s been a passenger.
 

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No doubt is a talent and because he’s young it shouldn’t mean he’s exempt from criticism. It’s not been a few games it’s been I feel the majority of games he’s level has been poor.
 

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Take the assist out the equation and his general 90 min performances have been VERY POOR!!
I hope he rediscovers his form but this season he’s been a passenger.
But his primary role is to provide assists...
 

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He's a forward, so is there to score goals too. 4 goals is a very poor return in a side that's scored 66 of them. He's getting in positions, but has to do better.
Undoubtably... but just making the point that assists have got to be the primary measure, so you can't take assists out of the equation. It's like saying Jansson is poor if you take his clearances out of the equation. Bryan should be outscoring Dasilva but he's not.
 

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