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Feels like violence is seeping back into the game at the minute doesn't it. Obviously it's all relative to the 70's 80's etc, but its clearly creeping back in on a small scale
 
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Yeah I really don't want Forest to do it but do prefer it for an away day. Not sure I want to hear all about them being in Europe and deserve to be in the premier league blah blah
 

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Don't think Forest or Huddersfield will be up to much in the EPL. Probably better to avoid them in early games but they will struggle once the quality in their squads is revealed to be inadequate. The four sides in the Championship POs have been pretty average compared to ourselves Bournemouth, and even Swansea last season.
 

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Yep

I’ll probably get slaughtered for this, but the Billy Sharp incident shows exactly why pitch invasions are wrong. There is always the risk of one complete dickhead letting everyone else down. The safety of players is more important than allowing fans to cavort on the pitch.
 

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I’ll probably get slaughtered for this, but the Billy Sharp incident shows exactly why pitch invasions are wrong. There is always the risk of one complete dickhead letting everyone else down. The safety of players is more important than allowing fans to cavort on the pitch.
Every single pitch invader is technically committing a criminal offence already. Clubs should be more ready to ban fans who do it rather than just turn a blind eye because they’ve just won a big game.
 

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Don't think Forest or Huddersfield will be up to much in the EPL. Probably better to avoid them in early games but they will struggle once the quality in their squads is revealed to be inadequate. The four sides in the Championship POs have been pretty average compared to ourselves Bournemouth, and even Swansea last season.
Both Fulham and Bournemouth have recent Premier League experience and the basis of PL squads, together with reasonable resources to add to them. Still the general expectation is that both will struggle to reestablish themselves but there's probably a couple of teams that will be worse than them, depending on who else gets relegated. Neither Forest or Huddersfield have any of those foundations; both will require a squad rebuild. Cooper will have his contacts to wheel in a list of loanees and Huddersfield probably have a tighter player unit, so can build a siege mentality. Either will need buckets of luck.
 

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Speaking to a Sheffield United season ticket holder I know the guy nutting Billy Sharp was one of many idiots last night, Forest fans in the tier above were throwing cups of piss on the Blades fans below amongst other projectiles and after the game setting on normal fans just trying to get home. Shame we have to have one of them or udders coming up really....
 

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I’ll probably get slaughtered for this, but the Billy Sharp incident shows exactly why pitch invasions are wrong. There is always the risk of one complete dickhead letting everyone else down. The safety of players is more important than allowing fans to cavort on the pitch.
The tiny minority always ruin it for the rest sadly. Not my bag personally but i understand that outpouring of joy. However what I can't get my head round is in that moment of joy, the folks that want to go and give abuse to the oppo fans and players - and i recall isolated incidents of that on our pitch at GP in the past. Worse still is actually assaulting an oppo player as in this case - totally brainless
 

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Don't think Forest or Huddersfield will be up to much in the EPL. Probably better to avoid them in early games but they will struggle once the quality in their squads is revealed to be inadequate. The four sides in the Championship POs have been pretty average compared to ourselves Bournemouth, and even Swansea last season.

On the face of it I'd agree but we had to change our style in the PL, before we could bring in a world class player that brought us someway close to the style we used in the Championship and it especially helped when teams had worked us out.

I rate Cooper and he has good contacts in the game, so if it's Forest I'd expect he'll be pragmatic and try to identify a style that suits. The big issue for teams coming up is there aren't many Eriksen's available to steer a newly promoted team to safety in year 1. As always it'll be tough for the teams coming up.
 

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I’ll probably get slaughtered for this, but the Billy Sharp incident shows exactly why pitch invasions are wrong. There is always the risk of one complete dickhead letting everyone else down. The safety of players is more important than allowing fans to cavort on the pitch.
Def shouldn’t be doing them now in the prem it’s embarrassing
 

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I’ll probably get slaughtered for this, but the Billy Sharp incident shows exactly why pitch invasions are wrong. There is always the risk of one complete dickhead letting everyone else down. The safety of players is more important than allowing fans to cavort on the pitch.
Good post
You won't get slaughtered

Also as we all know winning a Play Off Semi really doesn't deserve a celebration

It's the final that counts
 

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Unfortunately, at recent end-of season and Play-Off Semi-Final fixtures we have witnessed a number of unsavoury and unacceptable incidents take place with supporters entering the field of play.

These are currently under investigation by the relevant authorities and the EFL condemns in the strongest possible terms the reckless actions of individuals who have brought the game into disrepute with this unacceptable behaviour. The League is working closely with the Police and Clubs, offering its full support to the ongoing investigations.

Supporters are reminded that it is against the law to enter the pitch at any time and could result in a Club ban and criminal record. More importantly it puts the safety of players, coaches, managers and match officials at risk. It is vital that those playing the game can do so safe in the knowledge that they will not be subjected to violent, threatening or anti-social behaviour going forward.

Many people have already lost the privilege of watching their team via club bans this season and further punitive action will follow for those who continue to disregard ground regulations and break the law at football matches.

We recognise that this lawlessness is being conducted by a small minority of individuals and that the majority of people attending matches are a credit to their club. However, it is not acceptable for supporters to enter the field of play at any time given the EFL’s objective is to ensure our matches remain a safe and welcoming one for all. Therefore, over the summer we will consider what further measures are now at our disposal, including the potential use of capacity reductions or other similar mitigations.

Fans are also advised that the use of pyrotechnic devices inside a football stadium is a criminal offence that will potentially lead to police action, prosecution, and a ban from football.

Pyrotechnics and flares can burn at up to 2,500°C and can cause significant injuries to carriers and fellow spectators. We have also seen many incidents that have resulted in people experiencing burns, breathing difficulties, distress, and discomfort.

Whilst the issue of pitch incursions and the use of pyrotechnic devices are primarily matters that fall within the remit of the Police and Football Association, the EFL continues to work closely and collaboratively with all the relevant parties to address the broader issue of anti-social behaviour.
 

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There's been a swift arrest. Looking like a lifeban from Forest games for starters

 
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There's been a swift arrest. Looking like a lifeban from Forest games for starters

I know the footage isnt great but certainly looks older than 31. Then again you must have lived abit of a rough life to think headbutting someone like that is acceptable
 

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I know the footage isnt great but certainly looks older than 31. Then again you must have lived abit of a rough life to think headbutting someone like that is acceptable
He doesn't even have the excuse of being intoxicated as that match was nearly 3 hrs long.
 

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Speaking to a Sheffield United season ticket holder I know the guy nutting Billy Sharp was one of many idiots last night, Forest fans in the tier above were throwing cups of piss on the Blades fans below amongst other projectiles and after the game setting on normal fans just trying to get home. Shame we have to have one of them or udders coming up really....
Sheff Utd are no angels, and have previous too......
Andy Lapthorne anyone??
 

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another video appeared on Twitter of mcburnie in the middle of a huge melee and scuffle and appearing to stamp on a fan, one commentator saying Brewster dragged him to the ground and OM kicked and stamped. The video is inconclusive but apparently OM a has a foot in a cast so could be trying to get out the way.

I thought it was a cracking game but SU deffo came to use thuggery to even the game up, something the Forest manager knows all about from his swansea days but the aftermath was pretty bloody awful

Part of me thought NF in the prem would be a good thing but knowing their fans are ****s anyway and having seen last night I bloody hope Huddersfield win.
 

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Well, as the supporter is being charged with assault, surely OM must be now too? Plus banned from football stadiums for 3 to 5 years. What’s good for the goose is good for the gander……
I’m not sure we can compare both like for like. The supporter video is clear. That was an unprovoked attacked. We don’t know why OM reacted the way he did - but it doesn’t look good for him that’s for sure.
 

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I’m not sure we can compare both like for like. The supporter video is clear. That was an unprovoked attacked. We don’t know why OM reacted the way he did - but it doesn’t look good for him that’s for sure.
Indeed. You also can't actually SEE much, on there - you'd presume they'd have other videos available though. You can presume XYZ happened, but did it really... you don't know :)
 

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Nearly six months in jail plus £700 or so in costs, plus he tried to claim that he shouldn't be jailed because they'll struggle to keep up mortgage repayments if so. Ouch - talk about snatching defeat from the jaws of victory...
 

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Nearly six months in jail plus £700 or so in costs, plus he tried to claim that he shouldn't be jailed because they'll struggle to keep up mortgage repayments if so. Ouch - talk about snatching defeat from the jaws of victory...
Should have thought about that before being a cnut. Beyond stupid. Deserves every hardship he now faces
 

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Didn’t Billy Sharp play for us on loan around the time we had Jordan Rhodes too?
 
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The Championship next year. Looks like a tough league.

Middlesbrough
Sunderland
Norwich
Watford
Leeds/Burnley
Huddersfield/Forest
Blackburn
Swansea
Cardiff
West Brom
Swansea
Sheffield United
Reading
Birmingham
Blackpool
Preston
Coventry
QPR
Millwall
Luton
Stoke
Bristol City
Hull City
 

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The Championship next year. Looks like a tough league.

Middlesbrough
Sunderland
Norwich
Watford
Leeds/Burnley
Huddersfield/Forest
Blackburn
Swansea
Cardiff
West Brom
Swansea
Sheffield United
Reading
Birmingham
Blackpool
Preston
Coventry
QPR
Millwall
Luton
Stoke
Bristol City
Hull City
Some massive clubs in there!!!
At least 10 of which deserve to be in the Premier League!!
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The Championship next year. Looks like a tough league.

Middlesbrough
Sunderland
Norwich
Watford
Leeds/Burnley
Huddersfield/Forest
Blackburn
Swansea
Cardiff
West Brom
Swansea
Sheffield United
Reading
Birmingham
Blackpool
Preston
Coventry
QPR
Millwall
Luton
Stoke
Bristol City
Hull City
So difficult to predict!

Does anyone fancy Middlesbrough?
 

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The Championship next year. Looks like a tough league.

Middlesbrough
Sunderland
Norwich
Watford
Leeds/Burnley
Huddersfield/Forest
Blackburn
Swansea
Cardiff
West Brom
Swansea
Sheffield United
Reading
Birmingham
Blackpool
Preston
Coventry
QPR
Millwall
Luton
Stoke
Bristol City
Hull City
Granted it LOOKS like a tough league, but as we've seen this season, names & past reputation count for nothing. A lot of 'big' names there have been very average for a few years now.

There's only 4 clubs there that haven't been in the PL and many of them have been there within the last 5 years.
 
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So difficult to predict!

Does anyone fancy Middlesbrough?

One thing for sure can't see Norwich or Watford having as good a season as last time. Sheffield United are my tip but who knows. Saw them against Forest and they looked good. If Forest don't win against Hudders then they lose both Johnson and Spence so won't be effective as this year.
 

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