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Well, well, well if the last weekend's matches prove anything, it's that you can't prove anything in this league. We retained our automatic promotion spot despite a reversal to Coventry (our 3rd defeat in a row) chiefly because Swansea (who we were noted are (still) in a false position) conceded a remarkable 4 goals at Huddersfield. That's over 25% of the goals that they had conceded for the entire season before kick-off. I'm not sure that's ever happened before when over halfway through the season, it would be like us shifting 9 goals this coming Wednesday versus Wednesday to match such a fantastic feat.

Elsewhere Bournemouth tripped up at QPR, Blackburn lost to Forest, and Reading lost a home to Middlesbrough. Only Watford and Norwich collected 3 points by a single goal, although, to be fair and having watched the highlights, it is clear that Norwich dominated the xG race. So the top 6 teams only managed to pocket 6 of 18 points going, the result of this is that the teams challenging to join them in the play-off spots have drawn closer.

So, onto Round 32.

What to say about us? It's deja vu all over again as we encounter one of those all too common unexplainable dips in form that last several matches. Add into that the expected absences from Toney and Rico (as well as Norgaard, Pontus, Marcondes), and we can probably thank the fixture compiler that we are at home to Sheffield Wednesday a team that are 23rd in the Justice League with the least threatening attack (according to 538). Wednesday will also be without Liam Shaw who picked-up two yellow cards in two minutes at the weekend. I don't know how much they will miss Shaw but last week the 19 year-old signed a pre-contract deal with Celtic and a quick google has such superlatives as "meteoric rise", "mighty impressive", "most exciting prospect" - hopefully they are all true and he will be greatly missed. On our side it seems unlikely that we will see anyone returning from injury so this is a major test for a weakened home side. 538 have us a whopping 65% to win, but given what you and I know on the injury front I would wager the true odds aren't as good as that. Finally, it is worth noting that SWFC beat Bournemouth a couple of weeks ago - but not sure if that is anything to be concerned about given AFC's run of form this month.

Norwich visit Birmingham, a team whose only win in their last 6 was their most recent outing over 10-man Sheffield Wednesday (see above). I'm not sure there's much to be said about this one. Norwich has rather convincingly won their last 3 by an aggregate score of 7-1. This after a blip in which they only collected 2 points from 9 (it happens to the best of us!). Needless to say I am as confident as Watford not getting a penalty this week. But as we learnt from the last round, it doesn't work like that in this league.

Swansea are at home to Coventry. We all know what Coventry can do, and we all know that Swansea aren't *that* good. 538 gives the home team an even chance of winning, and I am sure that I speak for every Brentford fan when noting that can be interpreted as that there's 50% chance of them dropping at least two points. Always look on the bright side!

Meanwhile Watford travel to Blackburn - a team that were noted to be majorly underperforming earlier in the season but whose Justice League position has now slipped into the bottom half. It's always a non-straightforward outing to Ewood Park, but I suppose the normal soft penalty kick or lucky double deflection will see home the Hornets. Saying that, Watford are, again, back on form having won the last three having only gained 2 points from 9 from the immediately preceding 3 matches (another Top 6 team that had a wobble). Blackburn are on a run of 4 consecutive defeats, but each by only a single goal. Their latest at Forest being one where (again) they won the xG race. No gimmes for Watford here in for sure.

Further down the play-off spots Reading travel to Wycombe for what I suppose could be termed a local derby. Two teams struggling for form at the moment, and one that shouldn't be that relevant to us.

Finally, in probably the tie of the round, Bournemouth host Cardiff. 6th v 7th in the League, 6th v 7th in the Justice League, and 14th v 1st in the Form Table. Cardiff have won their last 5 match with a goal difference of +11. Meanwhile AFC have rather imploded after that solid start. Needless to say, it's not on TV.

Middlesbrough, Stoke and Barnsley are all in the play-off race now with Stoke and Barnsley facing each other on Wednesday too.

An interesting set of fixtures, which should see some upsets, so we all know what that means...


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Well, well, well if the last weekend's matches prove anything, it's that you can't prove anything in this league. We retained our automatic promotion spot despite a reversal to Coventry (our 3rd defeat in a row) chiefly because Swansea (who we were noted are (still) in a false position) conceded a remarkable 4 goals at Huddersfield. That's over 25% of the goals that they had conceded for the entire season before kick-off. I'm not sure that's ever happened before when over halfway through the season, it would be like us shifting 9 goals this coming Wednesday versus Wednesday to match such a fantastic feat.

Elsewhere Bournemouth tripped up at QPR, Blackburn lost to Forest, and Reading lost a home to Middlesbrough. Only Watford and Norwich collected 3 points by a single goal, although, to be fair and having watched the highlights, it is clear that Norwich dominated the xG race. So the top 6 teams only managed to pocket 6 of 18 points going, the result of this is that the teams challenging to join them in the play-off spots have drawn closer.

So, onto Round 32.

What to say about us? It's deja vu all over again as we encounter one of those all too common unexplainable dips in form that last several matches. Add into that the expected absences from Toney and Rico (as well as Norgaard, Pontus, Marcondes), and we can probably thank the fixture compiler that we are at home to Sheffield Wednesday a team that are 23rd in the Justice League with the least threatening attack (according to 538). Wednesday will also be without Liam Shaw who picked-up two yellow cards in two minutes at the weekend. I don't know how much they will miss Shaw but last week the 19 year-old signed a pre-contract deal with Celtic and a quick google has such superlatives as "meteoric rise", "mighty impressive", "most exciting prospect" - hopefully they are all true and he will be greatly missed. On our side it seems unlikely that we will see anyone returning from injury so this is a major test for a weakened home side. 538 have us a whopping 65% to win, but given what you and I know on the injury front I would wager the true odds aren't as good as that. Finally, it is worth noting that SWFC beat Bournemouth a couple of weeks ago - but not sure if that is anything to be concerned about given AFC's run of form this month.

Norwich visit Birmingham, a team whose only win in their last 6 was their most recent outing over 10-man Sheffield Wednesday (see above). I'm not sure there's much to be said about this one. Norwich has rather convincing won their last 3 by an aggregate score of 7-1. This after a blip in which they only collected 2 points from 9 (it happens to the best of us!). Needless to say I am as confident as Watford not getting a penalty this week. But as we learnt from the last round, it doesn't work like that in this league.

Swansea are at home to Coventry. We all know what Coventry can do, and we all know that Swansea aren't *that* good. 538 gives the home team an even chance of winning, and I am sure that I speak for every Brentford fan when noting that can be interpreted as that there's 50% chance of them dropping at least two points. Always look on the bright side!

Meanwhile Watford travel to Blackburn - a team that were noted to be majorly underperforming earlier in the season but whose Justice League position has now slipped into the bottom half. It's always a non-straightforward outing to Ewood Park, but I suppose the normal soft penalty kick or lucky double deflection will see home the Hornets. Saying that, Watford are, again, back on form having won the last three having only gained 2 points from 9 from the immediately preceding 3 matches (another Top 6 team that had a wobble). Blackburn are on a run of 4 consecutive defeats, but each by only a single goal. Their latest at Forest being one where (again) they won the xG race. No gimmes for Watford here in for sure.

Further down the play-off spots Reading travel to Wycombe for what I suppose could be termed a local derby. Two teams struggling for form at the moment, and one that shouldn't be that relevant to us.

Finally, in probably the tie of the round, Bournemouth host Cardiff. 6th v 7th in the League, 6th v 7th in the Justice League, and 14th v 1st in the Form Table. Cardiff have won their last 5 match with a goal difference of +11. Meanwhile AFC have rather imploded after that solid start. Needless to say, it's not on TV.

Middlesbrough, Stoke and Barnsley are all in the play-off race now with Stoke and Barnsley facing each other on Wednesday too.

An interesting set of fixtures, which should see some upsets, so we all know what that means...


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Well, well, well if the last weekend's matches prove anything, it's that you can't prove anything in this league. We retained our automatic promotion spot despite a reversal to Coventry (our 3rd defeat in a row) chiefly because Swansea (who we were noted are (still) in a false position) conceded a remarkable 4 goals at Huddersfield. That's over 25% of the goals that they had conceded for the entire season before kick-off. I'm not sure that's ever happened before when over halfway through the season, it would be like us shifting 9 goals this coming Wednesday versus Wednesday to match such a fantastic feat.

Elsewhere Bournemouth tripped up at QPR, Blackburn lost to Forest, and Reading lost a home to Middlesbrough. Only Watford and Norwich collected 3 points by a single goal, although, to be fair and having watched the highlights, it is clear that Norwich dominated the xG race. So the top 6 teams only managed to pocket 6 of 18 points going, the result of this is that the teams challenging to join them in the play-off spots have drawn closer.

So, onto Round 32.

What to say about us? It's deja vu all over again as we encounter one of those all too common unexplainable dips in form that last several matches. Add into that the expected absences from Toney and Rico (as well as Norgaard, Pontus, Marcondes), and we can probably thank the fixture compiler that we are at home to Sheffield Wednesday a team that are 23rd in the Justice League with the least threatening attack (according to 538). Wednesday will also be without Liam Shaw who picked-up two yellow cards in two minutes at the weekend. I don't know how much they will miss Shaw but last week the 19 year-old signed a pre-contract deal with Celtic and a quick google has such superlatives as "meteoric rise", "mighty impressive", "most exciting prospect" - hopefully they are all true and he will be greatly missed. On our side it seems unlikely that we will see anyone returning from injury so this is a major test for a weakened home side. 538 have us a whopping 65% to win, but given what you and I know on the injury front I would wager the true odds aren't as good as that. Finally, it is worth noting that SWFC beat Bournemouth a couple of weeks ago - but not sure if that is anything to be concerned about given AFC's run of form this month.

Norwich visit Birmingham, a team whose only win in their last 6 was their most recent outing over 10-man Sheffield Wednesday (see above). I'm not sure there's much to be said about this one. Norwich has rather convincing won their last 3 by an aggregate score of 7-1. This after a blip in which they only collected 2 points from 9 (it happens to the best of us!). Needless to say I am as confident as Watford not getting a penalty this week. But as we learnt from the last round, it doesn't work like that in this league.

Swansea are at home to Coventry. We all know what Coventry can do, and we all know that Swansea aren't *that* good. 538 gives the home team an even chance of winning, and I am sure that I speak for every Brentford fan when noting that can be interpreted as that there's 50% chance of them dropping at least two points. Always look on the bright side!

Meanwhile Watford travel to Blackburn - a team that were noted to be majorly underperforming earlier in the season but whose Justice League position has now slipped into the bottom half. It's always a non-straightforward outing to Ewood Park, but I suppose the normal soft penalty kick or lucky double deflection will see home the Hornets. Saying that, Watford are, again, back on form having won the last three having only gained 2 points from 9 from the immediately preceding 3 matches (another Top 6 team that had a wobble). Blackburn are on a run of 4 consecutive defeats, but each by only a single goal. Their latest at Forest being one where (again) they won the xG race. No gimmes for Watford here in for sure.

Further down the play-off spots Reading travel to Wycombe for what I suppose could be termed a local derby. Two teams struggling for form at the moment, and one that shouldn't be that relevant to us.

Finally, in probably the tie of the round, Bournemouth host Cardiff. 6th v 7th in the League, 6th v 7th in the Justice League, and 14th v 1st in the Form Table. Cardiff have won their last 5 match with a goal difference of +11. Meanwhile AFC have rather imploded after that solid start. Needless to say, it's not on TV.

Middlesbrough, Stoke and Barnsley are all in the play-off race now with Stoke and Barnsley facing each other on Wednesday too.

An interesting set of fixtures, which should see some upsets, so we all know what that means...


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Probably a combination of the two, but I'm convinced if we had the confidence of January that we wouldn't have lost that so easily.

Either way a win here puts us in a decent position, do our job and hope the others do not.
 

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Predictions - Norwich, Swans and Reading to win, Watford draw (unless they get another penalty...) and Bmuff draw which means we really need 3 points tomorrow to stay in the top 2
 

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Predictions - Norwich, Swans and Reading to win, Watford draw (unless they get another penalty...) and Bmuff draw which means we really need 3 points tomorrow to stay in the top 2
Mind you, I didn't see any of the top teams dropping points at the weekend and look what happened.
 

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What can you do when Norwich get all the luck going every week.

Should never score from that angle for the first, never a penalty, he kicked his foot out and was going down way before any of Glen Hoddles “contact” took place. Brum have had too many chances before another scuffed deflection lands perfectly for pukki to tap home.
 

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What can you do when Norwich get all the luck going every week.

Should never score from that angle for the first, never a penalty, he kicked his foot out and was going down way before any of Glen Hoddles “contact” took place. Brum have had too many chances before another scuffed deflection lands perfectly for pukki to tap home.
One team takes their chances, the other doesn't. That's the difference, sadly and are why Brum are where they are. That and they have been **** for 95% of the season.
 

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What can you do when Norwich get all the luck going every week.

Should never score from that angle for the first, never a penalty, he kicked his foot out and was going down way before any of Glen Hoddles “contact” took place. Brum have had too many chances before another scuffed deflection lands perfectly for pukki to tap home.
But we actually haven’t had ‘all the luck’ as you put it. At one point we were down to our 3rd choice keeper with Krul and McGovern both injured yet we kept picking up the wins and remained top of the league with a 19 year old deputising - that’s genuine squad depth. We have had a ridiculous injury list this season but now nearly all of them bar Stiepermann, Byram, and exciting youth prospects Bali Mumba and Josh Martin, are back, so trying to give everyone minutes is a nice problem to have at last, though as we saw from some returning at Swansea filling in for the likes of the mercurial Buendia etc many were certainly not match sharp at that point.

‘Should never have scored from that angle’? Eh? Er, that’s what quality strikers do. There’s no luck about that. Not great for you guys, but from our perspective it’s great to see Pukki finally fit and firing after an ongoing injury for the last 12 months or so. A player of that calibre has every right to bang that in from that angle, that’s what they do as I’m sure you’ve seen Toney do this season also.

And finally, the Cantwell penalty was about as clear cut as they come.
 

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But we actually haven’t had ‘all the luck’ as you put it. At one point we were down to our 3rd choice keeper with Krul and McGovern both injured yet we kept picking up the wins and remained top of the league with a 19 year old deputising - that’s genuine squad depth. We have had a ridiculous injury list this season but now nearly all of them bar Stiepermann, Byram, and exciting youth prospects Bali Mumba and Josh Martin, are back, so trying to give everyone minutes is a nice problem to have at last, though as we saw from some returning at Swansea filling in for the likes of the mercurial Buendia etc many were certainly not match sharp at that point.

‘Should never have scored from that angle’? Eh? Er, that’s what quality strikers do. There’s no luck about that. Not great for you guys, but from our perspective it’s great to see Pukki finally fit and firing after an ongoing injury for the last 12 months or so. A player of that calibre has every right to bang that in from that angle, that’s what they do as I’m sure you’ve seen Toney do this season also.

And finally, the Cantwell penalty was about as clear cut as they come.
No one cares.
 

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But we actually haven’t had ‘all the luck’ as you put it. At one point we were down to our 3rd choice keeper with Krul and McGovern both injured yet we kept picking up the wins and remained top of the league with a 19 year old deputising - that’s genuine squad depth.

Whoa, everyone hold the press, Norwich had to use their 3rd choice keeper for 2 games so they've definitely not had all the luck!
 

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Whoa, everyone hold the press, Norwich had to use their 3rd choice keeper for 2 games so they've definitely not had all the luck!
The point is actually that with Krul out for a few months, we even got to a stage where we didn’t even have our reserve keeper available due to injury, so throwing in a kid that’s only played 90 minutes of senior football previously in his career is far from ideal. Regardless, good sides make their own luck and get on with whatever’s thrown in front of them, and that’s exactly what we’ve done.
 

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The point is actually that with Krul out for a few months, we even got to a stage where we didn’t even have our reserve keeper available due to injury, so throwing in a kid that’s only played 90 minutes of senior football previously in his career is far from ideal. Regardless, good sides make their own luck and get on with whatever’s thrown in front of them, and that’s exactly what we’ve done.
I think the parachute payments from the past 8 relegations from the premier league in the last 20 seasons probably helped. Not to knock your team, Norwich, Bournemouth and Watford probably have the strongest squads in the league, but let's not kid ourselves, it's no coincidence.

I know you're only trying to be friendly, but we're on a sh*t run of form at the moment and coming on our board and expecting nicey nicey probably isn't smart, I hope we smash you on the 3rd March but to be fair, would be happy if you went up automatically with us.
 

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Having £40,000.000 of parachute payments thrown in front for your failure last season must have been a hardship as well.
And how much of that money have we spent this season on improving the squad? Very little. All new additions were made thanks to clever scouting rather than big bucks spending. So the parachute payments, which would be paid over 3 seasons, really hasn’t made any difference to us at all this season. Retaining Aarons, Pukki, Krul, Cantwell and Buendia, on the other hand, certainly has done.

And prior to that, how did we get ourselves into the position of receiving such parachute payments? Not from Delia spending 10’s of millions of £‘s, that’s for sure. We are a self sufficient club, and have a very sound business model.

You may call last season failure for us, but we knew what we were doing. We spent nothing at all, in effect basically robbing the Premier League of the cash last season in order to put ourselves in a better position for a future promotion, and a better tilt at becoming a ‘mythical’ established PL side. That said, we also had a ridiculous amount of injuries (CB in particular) to contend with last season as well - the upshot is if Pukki doesn’t get injured half way through the season then we’d have won the necessary 3 or so games needed for survival, he was on fire at that point. But, as you’ve pointed out, our ‘failure’ was we banked a lot of money with pretty much zero expenditure - IF we were to be promoted again this season then we will be in an even better position.

Looks like Brentford are doing something pretty similar, and you will get your rewards for it despite a tough week or two. Too good a side and club not to. And I won’t be knocking it. It’s a nice 2 fingers up to those that just try and instantly buy their way to success.
 

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And how much of that money have we spent this season on improving the squad? Very little. All new additions were made thanks to clever scouting rather than big bucks spending. So the parachute payments, which would be paid over 3 seasons, really hasn’t made any difference to us at all this season. Retaining Aarons, Pukki, Krul, Cantwell and Buendia, on the other hand, certainly has done.

And prior to that, how did we get ourselves into the position of receiving such parachute payments? Not from Delia spending 10’s of millions of £‘s, that’s for sure. We are a self sufficient club, and have a very sound business model.

You may call last season failure for us, but we knew what we were doing. We spent nothing at all, in effect basically robbing the Premier League of the cash last season in order to put ourselves in a better position for a future promotion, and a better tilt at becoming a ‘mythical’ established PL side. That said, we also had a ridiculous amount of injuries (CB in particular) to contend with last season as well - the upshot is if Pukki doesn’t get injured half way through the season then we’d have won the necessary 3 or so games needed for survival, he was on fire at that point. But, as you’ve pointed out, our ‘failure’ was we banked a lot of money with pretty much zero expenditure - IF we were to be promoted again this season then we will be in an even better position.

Looks like Brentford are doing something pretty similar, and you will get your rewards for it despite a tough week or two. Too good a side and club not to. And I won’t be knocking it. It’s a nice 2 fingers up to those that just try and instantly buy their way to success.
Couple of points - the parachute payment I referred to is for THIS season. If, as is very unlikley, you don't get promoted this season then you get more payments in following seasons. So this must have made a difference in terms of retaining the core of your team from last season. The Bees are not doing the same, we are having to sell our best players each season to try and compete with the obscene parachute payments.. Surely it is no coinicidence that 4 of the current top 6 are receiving payments for the failure in previous seasons?
 

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I think the parachute payments from the past 8 relegations from the premier league in the last 20 seasons probably helped. Not to knock your team, Norwich, Bournemouth and Watford probably have the strongest squads in the league, but let's not kid ourselves, it's no coincidence.

I know you're only trying to be friendly, but we're on a sh*t run of form at the moment and coming on our board and expecting nicey nicey probably isn't smart, I hope we smash you on the 3rd March but to be fair, would be happy if you went up automatically with us.
We actually had a Brentford supporter on our main forum when you were briefly top and to be fair 95% of City supporters were full of compliments for your club, and rightly so. Personally I’ve always liked Brentford too. New ground looks great from what I have seen though disappointed there’s not a pub on each corner though ha ha. And if I was looking for an argument, trust me, I’d sign up to the Bournemouth message board, they really don’t like us at all, and to be fair, I don’t like them either. So not gutted they’re about 47 places below us right now ha ha. And yep, looking forward to next weeks game. Irrespective of your results of late, you will be up for our game, make no mistake, so I can’t see a poor Brentford performance coming - I’m expecting you to be ‘on it’ too. Just hoping we don’t lose Buendia, Cantwell, Pukki etc whilst you get Toney etc back. We all want the strongest players available for this one. On paper, in terms of fluid one touch football and a top advert for the Championship, this could and should be the game of the season.
 

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And how much of that money have we spent this season on improving the squad? Very little. All new additions were made thanks to clever scouting rather than big bucks spending. So the parachute payments, which would be paid over 3 seasons, really hasn’t made any difference to us at all this season. Retaining Aarons, Pukki, Krul, Cantwell and Buendia, on the other hand, certainly has done.

And prior to that, how did we get ourselves into the position of receiving such parachute payments? Not from Delia spending 10’s of millions of £‘s, that’s for sure. We are a self sufficient club, and have a very sound business model.

You may call last season failure for us, but we knew what we were doing. We spent nothing at all, in effect basically robbing the Premier League of the cash last season in order to put ourselves in a better position for a future promotion, and a better tilt at becoming a ‘mythical’ established PL side. That said, we also had a ridiculous amount of injuries (CB in particular) to contend with last season as well - the upshot is if Pukki doesn’t get injured half way through the season then we’d have won the necessary 3 or so games needed for survival, he was on fire at that point. But, as you’ve pointed out, our ‘failure’ was we banked a lot of money with pretty much zero expenditure - IF we were to be promoted again this season then we will be in an even better position.

Looks like Brentford are doing something pretty similar, and you will get your rewards for it despite a tough week or two. Too good a side and club not to. And I won’t be knocking it. It’s a nice 2 fingers up to those that just try and instantly buy their way to success.
those parachute payments are what has enabled Norwich to keep those players so it’s the same difference.
 

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And how much of that money have we spent this season on improving the squad? Very little. All new additions were made thanks to clever scouting rather than big bucks spending. So the parachute payments, which would be paid over 3 seasons, really hasn’t made any difference to us at all this season. Retaining Aarons, Pukki, Krul, Cantwell and Buendia, on the other hand, certainly has done.

And prior to that, how did we get ourselves into the position of receiving such parachute payments? Not from Delia spending 10’s of millions of £‘s, that’s for sure. We are a self sufficient club, and have a very sound business model.

You may call last season failure for us, but we knew what we were doing. We spent nothing at all, in effect basically robbing the Premier League of the cash last season in order to put ourselves in a better position for a future promotion, and a better tilt at becoming a ‘mythical’ established PL side. That said, we also had a ridiculous amount of injuries (CB in particular) to contend with last season as well - the upshot is if Pukki doesn’t get injured half way through the season then we’d have won the necessary 3 or so games needed for survival, he was on fire at that point. But, as you’ve pointed out, our ‘failure’ was we banked a lot of money with pretty much zero expenditure - IF we were to be promoted again this season then we will be in an even better position.

Looks like Brentford are doing something pretty similar, and you will get your rewards for it despite a tough week or two. Too good a side and club not to. And I won’t be knocking it. It’s a nice 2 fingers up to those that just try and instantly buy their way to success.
I suppose Spurs are paying you to take Skipp on loan too
 

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We actually had a Brentford supporter on our main forum when you were briefly top and to be fair 95% of City supporters were full of compliments for your club, and rightly so. Personally I’ve always liked Brentford too. New ground looks great from what I have seen though disappointed there’s not a pub on each corner though ha ha. And if I was looking for an argument, trust me, I’d sign up to the Bournemouth message board, they really don’t like us at all, and to be fair, I don’t like them either. So not gutted they’re about 47 places below us right now ha ha. And yep, looking forward to next weeks game. Irrespective of your results of late, you will be up for our game, make no mistake, so I can’t see a poor Brentford performance coming - I’m expecting you to be ‘on it’ too. Just hoping we don’t lose Buendia, Cantwell, Pukki etc whilst you get Toney etc back. We all want the strongest players available for this one. On paper, in terms of fluid one touch football and a top advert for the Championship, this could and should be the game of the season.
It was me, yes your lot were very decent and I think some are being a bit too unfriendly here. Though I did find it hard to get through to most even when we were briefly top that our 21 game unbeaten run had come with the core of the team injured. Little did I know that would get even worse before getting better (in a few weeks, perhaps)!

While both clubs do good business in spotting undervalued players, the difference is that Norwich have the money and status from yoyoing to have less need to sell either to preserve the conditions of star players needed for getting promoted back or to persuade them that they will get PL football without moving.
 

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And how much of that money have we spent this season on improving the squad? Very little. All new additions were made thanks to clever scouting rather than big bucks spending. So the parachute payments, which would be paid over 3 seasons, really hasn’t made any difference to us at all this season. Retaining Aarons, Pukki, Krul, Cantwell and Buendia, on the other hand, certainly has done.

And prior to that, how did we get ourselves into the position of receiving such parachute payments? Not from Delia spending 10’s of millions of £‘s, that’s for sure. We are a self sufficient club, and have a very sound business model.

You may call last season failure for us, but we knew what we were doing. We spent nothing at all, in effect basically robbing the Premier League of the cash last season in order to put ourselves in a better position for a future promotion, and a better tilt at becoming a ‘mythical’ established PL side. That said, we also had a ridiculous amount of injuries (CB in particular) to contend with last season as well - the upshot is if Pukki doesn’t get injured half way through the season then we’d have won the necessary 3 or so games needed for survival, he was on fire at that point. But, as you’ve pointed out, our ‘failure’ was we banked a lot of money with pretty much zero expenditure - IF we were to be promoted again this season then we will be in an even better position.

Looks like Brentford are doing something pretty similar, and you will get your rewards for it despite a tough week or two. Too good a side and club not to. And I won’t be knocking it. It’s a nice 2 fingers up to those that just try and instantly buy their way to success.
Ignore some of the negative comments. You've as you said tried to run the club in the right manor, being self sufficient, something which we have built a model to be as well.
I suspect to the disappointment to the few on here we will do the same if we go up, I don't expect us to spend big money. Continue as we are picking the right players that suit our model.
If you go up which I suspect you will, your have a strong squad having kept your best players and your be a lot richer for it! Able to add again smartly. Anyone on here who sees that as failure.. is deluded.
 

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The point is actually that with Krul out for a few months, we even got to a stage where we didn’t even have our reserve keeper available due to injury, so throwing in a kid that’s only played 90 minutes of senior football previously in his career is far from ideal. Regardless, good sides make their own luck and get on with whatever’s thrown in front of them, and that’s exactly what we’ve done.
It's not ideal, it's also not the worst situation, I'd far rather we were forced into playing our 3rd choice keeper for a couple of games at the start of a transfer window(so you could've brought in a more experienced loan for the month if you wanted) than find ourselves outside of the transfer window, missing our five best players with the spine of the team out.


But please, tell me more about how difficult it was.
 

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Worth mentioning that Buendia has missed 3 games for Norwich and they didn't win any of those games, and scored 1 goal.

That dodgy spell a few weeks back where Norwich got beat by Barnsley, drew with Boro and Millwall before getting beat Swansea? Buendia played 20 minutes in the defeat by Barnsley, got sent off against Boro and then missed the two following games against Millwall and Swansea.

Spare me the piffle about squad depth, Norwich, like every championship side are an injury to a key player away from collapsing.
 

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Bournemouth out of the play offs as it stands.
 
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2-0 to Watford too.
 

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