beebopalula
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There's truth in that
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Dazza
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Feels well short of form recently, maybe I'm expecting too much from him but this last month have felt he's just been a yard off the pace, slightly slow to react at times and his passing has been off. Class is permanent as they say so hopefully this little break now will let him recharge and rediscover his best form.
He's been getting caught on the wrong side of the ball recently and isn't quick enough to get back. Perhaps a return to CB if we keep playing 5 at the back might help (although this does leave us light in MF ...)
IslandBee
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Not sure why the focus on CN - I thought he did fine for the most part. Jensen also looked to have retained his form from Wednesday while he was on. It was after the clash of heads that things went pear-shaped. Unfortunately, Shandon particualrly has not looked on it for a while.
Mark H
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Spot on.
Balders Bee
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I think CN has struggled in the last two matches. Partly because he's often isolated, partly because he's in his first season at this level & probably knackered & having a dip in form. He's not the only one either. Hopefully time to recharge the batteries & go again.
Mr Cynical
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I think it's probably not a coincidence that Norgaard went downhill after Jensen went off. Jensen was buzzing about all over the park, pressing, but also giving options for a quick pass and keeping the ball. Neither Janelt nor Baptiste were offering that. I'm not convinced that the Janelt/Norgaard pairing particularly works either and I think we'll need to look for something different if Eriksen is the 3rd midfielder..
Balders Bee
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Much as I love Norgaard I just didn't see this yesterday at all. We never got to grips with Mountinho or Neves who ran the show.
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Old B
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Thought he was being fouled when he got his booking.
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He learning his trade at this level, even at the age of 27.
He's up against an embarrassment of riches in that DM role and is slightly struggling in my opinion. He is either getting done by quick 1-2 passes or he's getting too close and rolled.
What he's absolutely fanatic at is tackling players who are running at him or through the middle
I genuinely prefer Janelt.
He's up against an embarrassment of riches in that DM role and is slightly struggling in my opinion. He is either getting done by quick 1-2 passes or he's getting too close and rolled.
What he's absolutely fanatic at is tackling players who are running at him or through the middle
I genuinely prefer Janelt.
Mr Cynical
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Don't see how you can say that? Janelt is often caught flat-footed, is v one footed and is way less mobile. Completely missed his tackle for their fortunately disallowed third. Thought VJ had a poor game yesterday and hasn't been great for a while, in fact his best performance this season was when he was at CB.. I don't think he and Norgaard work well together though which is part of the issue we're having with the third midfielder..
Balders Bee
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I wouldn't say I prefer Janelt but at 23 he is much younger than CN & on a steep learning curve & has the potential to step up several notches. He is strong & will score goals. Maybe he will move to either a CB or full back position at some point in his career. I must admit CN has IMHO been off the pace especially in the last two games & has been easily bypassed, he has conceded posession cheaply as well - truth is along with several other players both have looked fatigued & someway off their best lately. I do think he & Vitaly can play together but let's see what they could do with a player like CE or JDS to prompt & be the midfield glue (fingers crossed). The form of Shandon is giving me cause for concern.
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Very interesting article this:
Christian Norgaard interview: Brentford midfielder on why Tonsser app can give unsigned young players their chance
Christian Norgaard interview: Brentford midfielder on why Tonsser app can give unsigned young players their chance
This article indicates to me that he’s learnt a few lessons from his struggles, therefore won’t just jump at any old big pay check in the prem. Club and environment would have to be right for him.
Hopefully he plays for us for at least another 7years on our march to the champions league and then slots in as manager with Thomas deciding he fancies the Danish job
Mr Cynical
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I think having Eriksen in the side will enable Norgaard to step up even another level for us. Can't wait to see them link up for us. Hopefully Eriksen and DaSilva coming back in will allow us to be more positive in midfield as well as retain the ball better.
Mr Cynical
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Absolute quality this guy. Must be up there amongst our best ever buys?
AB
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I think he’s at the top. Before he came what we’d lacked was a really good CDM and it was the difference between being a decent Championship team and one which went up another level to being a consistent challenger for top 2 and went up.
jlove
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He's defined what a 6 should be, which was a bit of a revelation. OK, he could be a bit quicker to be perfection but building the team around him has got to be the objective – I guess that was behind his new contract.
Mr Cynical
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Yeh really excited to see him with real ball players around him!! I think at times he’s been covering all roles in midfield this season
badgerbee
Mafeking Avenue........gets you there!!!!
Undoubtedly one of our truly PL quality players, and has carried us in a number of games, but CN does seem to be making a few mistakes and having his 'pocket picked' a bit too regularly at the moment.....
westy
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He’s slow on the ball sometimes
NorthamptonBee
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Slow on the ball, slow on the turn and has been bang average since Covid.
rebus
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Think it was before that to be honest mate. One of my faves but needs to step it up a gear.
Mr Cynical
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Winning lots of tackles and still very good off the ball in “destruct” mode but struggling a bit with the ball at his feet.
Been a fair amount of chopping and changing around him in midfield this season and let’s face it, we’ve played some really good teams recently and had games in which dominating on the ball is not easy.
Hopefully a settled midfield with Dasilva and Eriksen is not far away and some games against weaker opposition will allow CN more time, space and options in possession.
Been a fair amount of chopping and changing around him in midfield this season and let’s face it, we’ve played some really good teams recently and had games in which dominating on the ball is not easy.
Hopefully a settled midfield with Dasilva and Eriksen is not far away and some games against weaker opposition will allow CN more time, space and options in possession.
MadsMadsMads
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At the moment he has to do way too much. Defensive anchor, the one that drives the team forward when pressing, tho one that drives the ball forward and probably the only real creative outlet. While he definitely has the ability to do lots of those things he can't do em at the same time. Gets caught out of possession way to often and the midfield gets overrun because of it.
When he is best he sits back in that #6 role, breaks up play quickly and aggressive and then pass it forward. Just like in the Championship and the beginning of the season. Josh and CE will do him a world of good. It will free him up to do what he is best at IMO.
When he is best he sits back in that #6 role, breaks up play quickly and aggressive and then pass it forward. Just like in the Championship and the beginning of the season. Josh and CE will do him a world of good. It will free him up to do what he is best at IMO.
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First time playing this amount of games in the best league in the world, add in all the extra work he's doing and you'll get fatigue.
We genuinely need the end of the season IMHO
We genuinely need the end of the season IMHO
Balders Bee
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His work rate & tackling stats are prodigious. Difficult for him without a settled midfield around him, like everyone in the team his passing has been variable & has been caught in possession a fair amount. However the quality of the opposition & lack of options are as responsible for that as much as any failing on his part. I think he's one of those players who will benefit from the experience this season & be back a better player for it next season (hopefully in the Premier League).
TadB
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Mental fatigue is the killer! I think that you are quite right.
Inappropriate Smilies Bee
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Has covered the most miles of all Premier league players this season so far.
Pontus is seventh.
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Pontus is seventh.
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Blimey. Pontus needs to stop going up for either long throws ork cornersHas covered the most miles of all Premier league players this season so far.
Pontus is seventh.
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Isleworth_Bee
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Shows how much he does at the back.
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I don't know about tiredness or exhaustion, but the fact is that he has been nowhere near as effective in the last couple of months, since he returned after suspension. He concedes possession far too often compared to the past and doesn't seem as composed. There was one occasion in the first half yesterday when he just hoofed an aimless forward punt high into the air, which is so unlike him.
I was convinced he would be gone in the summer, whichever division we are in, but now I'm not so sure
I was convinced he would be gone in the summer, whichever division we are in, but now I'm not so sure
Hippobee
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It's called confidence (or lack of) and has spread through the team over the weeks.
Tiredness was an excuse mentioned on another thread for a number of players. I really don't think it's that - a lack of confidence means players take an extra touch, don't make the same darting runs, don't make themselves available for the ball, etc. All of which makes the gameplay slower, which can certainly look like fatigue. To me, we are playing very much like we did this time last year. Thomas changed the system, we won some games, confidence spread and the rest is history. We need something like that now to spark it.
Get a goal ahead in a game and let's see what happens.
Raymond Howard
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Yep, bandaged around the knee area
AB
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Just a rest at 3-0 up against a team with a lightweight midfield FTT could bully I think.
whyteleafebee76
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Looked more like hamstring /thigh that was strapped , precautionary I reckon and we could afford to take him off at 3-0 up.
Raymond Howard
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Perhaps it had slipped down when I saw it! Anyway, he had spoken to Thomas quite a bit earlier about what I assumed to be something wrong in his leg
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Yep at time of the first penalty.
whyteleafebee76
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Yep, hence why I think it's precautionary as he would have gone off straight away if it was too bad. Fingers crossed.
staines_bee
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Any more news on CN?
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Looks like he is out according to London world
Brentford have no fresh injury concerns ahead of the game against Burnley.
Julian Jeanvier, Tarique Fosu (long term), Christian Norgaard and Joshua Dasilva are all still absent.
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Brentford have no fresh injury concerns ahead of the game against Burnley.
Julian Jeanvier, Tarique Fosu (long term), Christian Norgaard and Joshua Dasilva are all still absent.
Double boost for Brentford ahead of Burnley but key Eriksen decision yet to be made
Thomas Frank has some positives going into the relegation six-pointer agaiBurnley game.
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