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I haven’t seen the video in question so please excuse my ignorance but what’s the basis upon which the club decided to make a statement? Is it because the person was wearing a Brentford FC branded mask? Normally such statements are reserved for employees or incidents that take place at a match etc.
The video is basically a guy in a Bees branded face covering being asked “QPR? Fulham? some bloke’s name?” and replying “C***s” to the first two then taking off his mask and shouting “F***ing N*****” to the last. Dumb and well out of order.
 

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I hadn’t seen the reference to the tours but from what has been described, the likelihood is a statement would have been made regardless of that?
 

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The video is basically a guy in a Bees branded face covering being asked “QPR? Fulham? some bloke’s name?” and replying “C***s” to the first two then taking off his mask and shouting “F***ing N*****” to the last. Dumb and well out of order.
Got you.

I thought it might be an incident that demonstrates that when you choose to wear the club’s logo in whatever fashion, you are representing the club and they are prepared to uphold that responsibility.

Because this drives a coach and horses ‘over the line’ rather than just crossing it, it doesn’t really demonstrate that. The club had little choice other than to issue a statement but well done to them for doing so in any case.
 

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Got you.

I thought it might be an incident that demonstrates that when you choose to wear the club’s logo in whatever fashion, you are representing the club and they are prepared to uphold that responsibility.

Because this drives a coach and horses ‘over the line’ rather than just crossing it, it doesn’t really demonstrate that. The club had little choice other than to issue a statement but well done to them for doing so in any case.
Yep. In a way we (the fans) are an extension of the Clubs ambassadors and as such we need to maintain highest possible of standards to set an example to other clubs and the wider community. If we serouis about being the most inclusive club in the country. Its important we all try do our bit.
 
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If whoever this is has called someone the N word then there’s no defence. Lifetime ban, out the club, away from black fans who deserve to watch the Bees as freely as white fans can

However the club have a duty of care imo to try and provide support to help change the mans thought processes and actions, all well and good banning racists but if we don’t make efforts to help prevent it from happening again in terms of challenging the ideology head on then taking the knee is worthless
 

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This is all very sad, I just hope it is not the person I think it is.
 

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Unfortunately I have now seen the video, pretty indefensible really.

The man in question has had a lot of second chances but I am afraid he will just never learn.

He seriously needs some professional help.
 

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People with racial issues like to portray their views as 'normal'. If they get called out on racist behaviour they will try to shut down the issue; if this doesn't work they will try to portray themselves as a victim.

By challenging racist ideas the veneer of racist 'normality is stripped away. It is for this reason that the actions of BFC should be applauded. I for one hope that incidents such as what this thread details is not hushed up so that future generations can see a 'new normal'.
 

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People with racial issues like to portray their views as 'normal'. If they get called out on racist behaviour they will try to shut down the issue; if this doesn't work they will try to portray themselves as a victim.

By challenging racist ideas the veneer of racist 'normality is stripped away. It is for this reason that the actions of BFC should be applauded. I for one hope that incidents such as what this thread details is not hushed up so that future generations can see a 'new normal'.
On your first part - agreed, we've seen the victim playing before

On your second part - hold fire a moment, the club haven't taken any action yet.
 

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100 % set up.. the account on twitter was set up just to post the vid.. as all the clubs including the met police were tagged in. im sure he regrets it and rightly so.
 

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100 % set up.. the account on twitter was set up just to post the vid.. as all the clubs including the met police were tagged in. im sure he regrets it and rightly so.
Agree about the Twitter account. However the video was doing the rounds via WhatsApp etc. way before it appeared on Twitter. It got to me even, so many hundreds would have had it before then. Still not sure how that makes it a "set-up" however. How was he "set-up" to say what he did? As I said above it wasn't some sort of elaborate, staged plan. He was simply videoed answering some straightforward questions.
 

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100 % set up.. the account on twitter was set up just to post the vid.. as all the clubs including the met police were tagged in. im sure he regrets it and rightly so.
Surprised it hasn’t been taken down as it should be,not into the technical side of social media but thought it was strange of the person being filmed to invite people watch this.Doesnt make him less guilty but what sort of a person sets this stuff up to get their mate in trouble?I suppose an ex mate.
 

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Surprised it hasn’t been taken down as it should be,not into the technical side of social media but thought it was strange of the person being filmed to invite people watch this.Doesnt make him less guilty but what sort of a person sets this stuff up to get their mate in trouble?I suppose an ex mate.
Yes, very odd. It's apparent from watching the video that the two of them know each other. Quite why the video should then be shared I have no idea. Perhaps the filmmaker was as shocked as the rest of us?
 

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Yes, very odd. It's apparent from watching the video that the two of them know each other. Quite why the video should then be shared I have no idea. Perhaps the filmmaker was as shocked as the rest of us?
Either to call out/wind up the QPR chap mentioned or the pair of them really are that ****ing stupid that they thought it wouldnt get much further than a couple of friends.
 

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Either to call out/wind up the QPR chap mentioned or the pair of them really are that ****ing stupid that they thought it wouldnt get much further than a couple of friends.
Ah yes. Probably a more accurate analysis than mine.
 

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Either to call out/wind up the QPR chap mentioned or the pair of them really are that ****ing stupid that they thought it wouldnt get much further than a couple of friends.
I get the impression there was an intended target audience, that being the QPR chap and his associates. I got a copy of it via WhatsApp from an associate of some of the intended target audience. As Banana says, set up or not on Twitter, it was doing the rounds all morning on WhatsApp and once it's out there it's going to come to light somewhere.
 

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100 % set up.. the account on twitter was set up just to post the vid.. as all the clubs including the met police were tagged in. im sure he regrets it and rightly so.
As I mentioned earlier he probably only regrets it as he has been caught out saying it. Have zero sympathy whatsoever and as someone above said this person has had more than one chance to get his act together.
Take a step back and consider how our black players would feel seeing a fan speak in those terms. Thankfully from my experience he certainly is in a minority and not representative of our fan base.
 

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On your first part - agreed, we've seen the victim playing before

On your second part - hold fire a moment, the club haven't taken any action yet.
Didn't they issue a statement? That of course shouldn't be enough, more actions are required IMO.
 

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Agree about the Twitter account. However the video was doing the rounds via WhatsApp etc. way before it appeared on Twitter. It got to me even, so many hundreds would have had it before then. Still not sure how that makes it a "set-up" however. How was he "set-up" to say what he did? As I said above it wasn't some sort of elaborate, staged plan. He was simply videoed answering some straightforward questions.
Yes.. sorry.. i meant he's been set up via a fake account.. not by a staged video
 

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Yes.. sorry.. i meant he's been set up via a fake account.. not by a staged video
That’s how I see it .. the account has been set up by someone to out him, that’s why so many have been tagged.

Not defending him in any way.

Looks like it was filmed on Hounslow Rd in Whitton, opposite the Prince Albert it looks like
 

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That’s how I see it .. the account has been set up by someone to out him, that’s why so many have been tagged.

Not defending him in any way.

Looks like it was filmed on Hounslow Rd in Whitton, opposite the Prince Albert it looks like
Yes by the baptist church
 

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Didn't they issue a statement? That of course shouldn't be enough, more actions are required IMO.
BIAS are being kept up to date with this matter. When there is more to say, it will be said.
 

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Agree about the Twitter account. However the video was doing the rounds via WhatsApp etc. way before it appeared on Twitter.
Yes, the fan in question was toast even before it got on Twitter so arguments about a set up don't really fly. I don't think he'll ever see a Brentford match ever again.
 

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I'm not sure you can call something a 'setup' if there's no coercion. Just looks like someone taking advantage of an opportunity to film someone spouting racist bile whether it be for sincere reasons or for nothing more than to intentionally drop them in the sh*t. I suspect the latter but it's irrelevant really.
 
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As I mentioned earlier he probably only regrets it as he has been caught out saying it. Have zero sympathy whatsoever and as someone above said this person has had more than one chance to get his act together.
Take a step back and consider how our black players would feel seeing a fan speak in those terms. Thankfully from my experience he certainly is in a minority and not representative of our fan base.
I believe the video was tweeted to a number of the players 😐
 
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Apologies to all

Passing on a rumour. I should know better
 

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I too got this video via WhatsApp from my mate that supports QPR.
This has spread far and wide very quickly unfortunately
 

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Disgusting language and he’ll pay for it the rest of his life I’d imagine, in not attending any games. The account set up on Twitter is weird though. Could be easily sent to the club and they could deal with it. Imagine whoever did it had some personal issues with him. I guess if he’s abused them in the past it’s understandable but otherwise I think it’s a bit out of order. Not that he doesn’t deserve whats coming to him, just social media justice doesn’t sit right with me
 

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Video got as far as sheffield. What a clown. He doesnt represent us but i dont understand the big hoohaa about it? I mean do we go on every time a so called Brentford fan gets done for rape, murder etc? Social media is very much to blame for whipping up a frenzy over things. Did anyone see Jim davidsons rant the other day? Does that then look bad on charlton? 2 seperate issues who you are and the team you support in my opinion
 

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Video got as far as sheffield. What a clown. He doesnt represent us but i dont understand the big hoohaa about it? I mean do we go on every time a so called Brentford fan gets done for rape, murder etc? Social media is very much to blame for whipping up a frenzy over things. Did anyone see Jim davidsons rant the other day? Does that then look bad on charlton? 2 seperate issues who you are and the team you support in my opinion
Give over, he's wearing a Brentford mask, referring to our two main rivals and then refers to one of QPR's top boys as a N.

How do you expect the club not to react?!
 

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Give over, he's wearing a Brentford mask, referring to our two main rivals and then refers to one of QPR's top boys as a N.

How do you expect the club not to react?!
Probably expected him to get a job at the club. Oh wait....
 

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Probably expected him to get a job at the club. Oh wait....
“He” does seem to have tenuous links to the club other than being just a fan... I was a bit surprised the club put out a statement straightaway, if it was just a random guy with a brentford mask - would it have been that fast?
 

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Its just the usual standard apologistic reply using all the buzz words like abhorant and zero tolerance. Why even give him the time of day and feel we need to apologize for the stupid actions of a grown man. Oh what because if the club doesnt do the standard knee jerk response we somehow look worse? It would be different if it was a group chanting inside the ground but some guy on the street wearing a brentford mask is suddenly our problem?
 

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Or you know, because the person in question recently worked at the club with helping the tours? Probably important the club distance themselves from racist views and comments.
 

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Its just the usual standard apologistic reply using all the buzz words like abhorant and zero tolerance. Why even give him the time of day and feel we need to apologize for the stupid actions of a grown man. Oh what because if the club doesnt do the standard knee jerk response we somehow look worse? It would be different if it was a group chanting inside the ground but some guy on the street wearing a brentford mask is suddenly our problem?
He is a well known Brentford fan wearing a BFC branded facemask calling people N*****s and it is all over social media.

The club have done what they had to do.
 
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I’d assume not as the EDL, whilst not palatable to most of us, is not, at this time, an illegal organisation. The club can’t (or certainly won’t) issue bans for political views or memberships, however, if any of the individuals you referenced are filmed using hate speech or any other overtly racist language I’d expect the club to take the same actions and sanctions.
It can issue bans for whatever reason it likes.
 

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I’d assume not as the EDL, whilst not palatable to most of us, is not, at this time, an illegal organisation. The club can’t (or certainly won’t) issue bans for political views or memberships, however, if any of the individuals you referenced are filmed using hate speech or any other overtly racist language I’d expect the club to take the same actions and sanctions.
I think this is the right line. If they aren’t manifesting views incompatible with the club’s ethos while identified as a fan or at a match then that’s a private matter for them. Given the online pelters from some about BLM and the players taking the knee I think once we return to watching in the ground it’ll be pretty obvious who will need to go if they can’t keep it to themselves.
 

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