Club Update on 2021/22 Season Tickets and Memberships

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Sorry, I'm confused over this (easily done!).

What do you mean by "promotion proofed"? That we are guaranteed still to retain our seats if promoted? Or that we will retain our seats and at the original price?

For I had thought that when we originally bought our ST's, we were told the price would increase by 25% should we get promoted.

But the club update you linked to says (my bold):
"The Club is giving all Season Ticket Holders the option to ‘freeze’ their 2020/21 ticket and defer it to the 2021/22 season. Under this scenario, supporters will keep their seat and secure the same price for next season regardless of our league status. Those choosing this option will remain as Season Ticket Holders and full benefits will be retained."


How does that tie-in with the extract from the update quoted above?

Or am I just being a "Terry Christian"? :ROFLMAO:
I mean, guaranteed seats and guaranteed price for regular season tickets, frozen in autumn 2020, for next season. You bold text agrees with this.

Premium seats are a law unto themselves but a premium seat holder I know told me that he is certain is going to be paying this increase - £125 per month instead of £99 per month (don't tell me that's not a 25% increase, we've got enough on our plates here).
Is it possible the 25% figure has been lifted either from some publicity relating to premium seats? Or, a part of publicity for 2020/21 new stadium season tickets before/whilst we spent a year indoors?
Possibly I think there was an early understanding that anyone who bought an ST in say January 2020 had a guaranteed priced whereas those signing up later in 2020 (e.g. for the first time, e.g. as we were snapping at West Brom's heels) were being committed to an increase? If that is true some may be getting a better deal for their first full year's ST than they expected.
 

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I mean, guaranteed seats and guaranteed price for regular season tickets, frozen in autumn 2020, for next season. You bold text agrees with this.

Premium seats are a law unto themselves but a premium seat holder I know told me that he is certain is going to be paying this increase - £125 per month instead of £99 per month (don't tell me that's not a 25% increase, we've got enough on our plates here).
Is it possible the 25% figure has been lifted either from some publicity relating to premium seats? Or, a part of publicity for 2020/21 new stadium season tickets before/whilst we spent a year indoors?
Possibly I think there was an early understanding that anyone who bought an ST in say January 2020 had a guaranteed priced whereas those signing up later in 2020 (e.g. for the first time, e.g. as we were snapping at West Brom's heels) were being committed to an increase? If that is true some may be getting a better deal for their first full year's ST than they expected.
Thank you for that explanation - I think your last paragraph was what I had in mind, with the Premium ST increase further muddying the waters.
 

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You have until the end of this month. I expect they will make more of an effort to alert people to this now that the season is over. No one is going to give up a PL season ticket for the sake of £15 or whatever it is surely???

No. but I'd not seen it anywhere so was a bit of a surprise..
 

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Why does the club’s website have to be so unintuitive. Who would think to go to “community” to pay for the Blackburn/Derby tickets? I just don’t get it, and I don’t know of any other website I use regularly that has to include ‘how to’ videos to enable you to use it.
 
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Why does the club’s website have to be so unintuitive. Who would think to go to “community” to pay for the Blackburn/Derby tickets? I just don’t get it, and I don’t know of any other website I use regularly that has to include ‘how to’ videos to enable you to use it.
Yes. I made similar points re "how to" previously. No website should need that. But this is Kurt's work. Genius.
 

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No. but I'd not seen it anywhere so was a bit of a surprise..
It is not obvious. But when you look at the my account summary in the middle of the page it says
" 2021/22 Season Ticket Holders please settle balances from limited capacity games in December 2020 by June 30 2021. "
Clearly you cannot expect every season ticket holder to spontaneously log in and read that, and nor is it particularly obvious how to do so. Surely there'll be reminder emails and calls this month.
 

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It is not obvious. But when you look at the my account summary in the middle of the page it says
" 2021/22 Season Ticket Holders please settle balances from limited capacity games in December 2020 by June 30 2021. "
Clearly you cannot expect every season ticket holder to spontaneously log in and read that, and nor is it particularly obvious how to do so. Surely there'll be reminder emails and calls this month.
There will be, the club didn't want to confuse things with the purchasing of playoff tickets going on.
 

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There will be, the club didn't want to confuse things with the purchasing of playoff tickets going on.
Yes that's fair enough. I took it upon myself to pay the balance so I didn't forget but pleased there is a plan.
Thanks again for all your posts the last few weeks!
 

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How many ST applications have the club had ?
I read somewhere it was about 900 new applications.

My understanding of the situation for frozen STs is that apart from premium ones every other ST will be at nil cost for 21-22. If you went to the Blackburn or Derby games you’ll need to pay for those tickets by June 30th (and I think in the unlikely event people don’t it might mean the frozen ST becomes a part paid one after that so a 21-22 one will cost quite a bit more than the price of the unpaid Blackburn/Derby ticket). Those who took a full or partial refund are guaranteed the chance to buy a 21-22 ST for their reserved seat but at the full 21-22 price including whatever increase is applied (25% on top of the non-earlybird 20-21 price for that seat?) less the amount they didn’t want refunded. I think that results in option 2 folks paying about the same as the 20-21 price in cash now on top of the amount they didn’t ask to be refunded.
 

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Anyone have anything like this in the season ticket account ...I've emailed club and have had no reply yet and can't seem to find the transaction on my card although can't even remember what card I used.....seem to have debits of 2 amounts for season ticket

I can't add the image but have a debit for £696 from last April and then £821 this Feb
 

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Anyone have anything like this in the season ticket account ...I've emailed club and have had no reply yet and can't seem to find the transaction on my card although can't even remember what card I used.....seem to have debits of 2 amounts for season ticket

I can't add the image but have a debit for £696 from last April and then £821 this Feb

Yes, I have something similar. I have an entry for the season ticket I bought last season for £399 and an entry for a season ticket for 21/22 season for £449. I've assumed that this is the club rolling last season's ticket over. I've figured that the price difference is because that's the price a ticket might cost for the coming season if I were buying now?
 

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Anyone have anything like this in the season ticket account ...I've emailed club and have had no reply yet and can't seem to find the transaction on my card although can't even remember what card I used.....seem to have debits of 2 amounts for season ticket

I can't add the image but have a debit for £696 from last April and then £821 this Feb

I saw this in my account too. I think it was explained on another thread but it is an accounting thing - the original 20-21 transaction was reversed when we froze STs and then the money re-credited for a 21-22 ST. Not sure why your two figures are different but maybe to do with having a posh seat?
 

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I've also emailed the club and have had no response. My query was regarding my frozen season ticket and that of my son. I had an adult one and he had a junior. Since the start of last season I've moved into the Senior and he's now a young adult. Cue complicated maths about what we should pay.
 

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Yes, everyone who froze their ticket has effectively 'bought' a new ticket for 21/22 at mom discounted prices but no payment will be sought.
 

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Yes, everyone who froze their ticket has effectively 'bought' a new ticket for 21/22 at mom discounted prices but no payment will be sought.
Unless they attended Blackburn or Derby games and have monies outstanding.
 

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I saw this in my account too. I think it was explained on another thread but it is an accounting thing - the original 20-21 transaction was reversed when we froze STs and then the money re-credited for a 21-22 ST. Not sure why your two figures are different but maybe to do with having a posh seat?
I'll await a reply then but no I'm in the cheap seats behind the goal !
 

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Yes, I got the same. No idea why it is telling me about someone else's debt to the club, or suggesting that I might have to pay for them!
i had the same!
 

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I've also emailed the club and have had no response. My query was regarding my frozen season ticket and that of my son. I had an adult one and he had a junior. Since the start of last season I've moved into the Senior and he's now a young adult. Cue complicated maths about what we should pay.

I have the same thing though I just presumed this years amount was just the non early-bird price hence the price difference
 

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I have the same thing though I just presumed this years amount was just the non early-bird price hence the price difference
I've actually heard back from the club. They've decided to freeze age tariffs so for this season only I'm an adult and my son is still a junior. Don't know if I come out ahead on this transaction, but I reckon I've come out ahead over the last season in any case.
 

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any idea of when actual season ticket cards or whatever they are going to be are going to be sent out in the post ??????
 

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Why does the club’s website have to be so unintuitive. Who would think to go to “community” to pay for the Blackburn/Derby tickets? I just don’t get it, and I don’t know of any other website I use regularly that has to include ‘how to’ videos to enable you to use it.
Thank you for posting that - now I know it's not just me! (Usually is lol)
 

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I live 220 miles away so season ticket put of the question, have been a member for god knows how long, with 1500 taps or so, and a £20 credit from the Barnsley game, have registered interest for new membership, any idea if this puts me in the box seat for what would probably be fairly lowish numbers of membership?
 

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I'd say easily, but we won't know all the details until the publish a further update after the fixtures are out. We don't even know if memberships will be restricted in numbers though, but having any TAP's would put you ahead of the pile compared to any 'neutrals' who may try and come along.
 

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I live 220 miles away so season ticket put of the question, have been a member for god knows how long, with 1500 taps or so, and a £20 credit from the Barnsley game, have registered interest for new membership, any idea if this puts me in the box seat for what would probably be fairly lowish numbers of membership?
If I understand your question correctly, surely the club will sell as many Memberships as they can, since basically your £30(?) Membership Fee entitles* you to apply for a ticket, but doesn't guarantee one.

So that if eg we have 16k home seats available and 10k ST Holders, then the remaining 6k will be offered to Members. And if more than 6k members want to buy, then I imagine priority will go to TAP's. But if fewer than 6k apply, then the remainder will go on General Sale (possibly to people already with a ticket purchase history or on the database.)

That's pretty much how other teams do it and if so, then your 1,500 TAP's should see you nearer the front of the Membership queue than the back.

* - Plus discounts in the club shop, goody bags for kids and endless bloody marketing emails etc.
 

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If I understand your question correctly, surely the club will sell as many Memberships as they can, since basically your £30(?) Membership Fee entitles* you to apply for a ticket, but doesn't guarantee one.

So that if eg we have 16k home seats available and 10k ST Holders, then the remaining 6k will be offered to Members. And if more than 6k members want to buy, then I imagine priority will go to TAP's. But if fewer than 6k apply, then the remainder will go on General Sale (possibly to people already with a ticket purchase history or on the database.)

That's pretty much how other teams do it and if so, then your 1,500 TAP's should see you nearer the front of the Membership queue than the back.

* - Plus discounts in the club shop, goody bags for kids and endless bloody marketing emails etc.

I’m hoping you’re right, just got a bit of ‘the fear’ at all the bandwagon jumpers getting ahead.
 

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Does anyone know if you are able to change your season ticket for another,
either upgrade or to a cheaper position please
 

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Does anyone know if you are able to change your season ticket for another,
either upgrade or to a cheaper position please
No, if you froze your season ticket last year. You've already paid (except maybe for Blackburn /Derby) game.

As no one has sat in their seat the club are not offering the opportunity to move.
 

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No, if you froze your season ticket last year. You've already paid (except maybe for Blackburn /Derby) game.

As no one has sat in their seat the club are not offering the opportunity to move.

As a note, I rang the club about changing seat (I'm right up the back of the West Stand and wanted to move forward) and was told there won't be any seat changes until the end of the upcoming season. Maybe the position on that will change once people know what their seats are like, but I didn't ask.
 

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I'm very confused by all this. I froze my ST in W stand. I've never been to the new ground. Am I expected to pay for BR/Derby games that I didn't attend. If not do I lose my season ticket?
 

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As a note, I rang the club about changing seat (I'm right up the back of the West Stand and wanted to move forward) and was told there won't be any seat changes until the end of the upcoming season. Maybe the position on that will change once people know what their seats are like, but I didn't ask.

We did ask for that way back in 2019 when planning for the new ground. I imagine being in the Premier League will make this more difficult and unlikely
 

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I'm very confused by all this. I froze my ST in W stand. I've never been to the new ground. Am I expected to pay for BR/Derby games that I didn't attend. If not do I lose my season ticket?
No you don't need to do anything, assuming you mean you didn't even apply for a ticket to Blackburn/Derby rather than just not going
 

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As a note, I rang the club about changing seat (I'm right up the back of the West Stand and wanted to move forward) and was told there won't be any seat changes until the end of the upcoming season. Maybe the position on that will change once people know what their seats are like, but I didn't ask.
Highly unlikely given the numbers of ST sold and likelihood of every game being a sell out next season so you'll probably have to grin and bear it for a season - not been yet but would surprise me if any seats have a poor view.
 

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This might not be popular, but with a significant number of fans not having to front up the cost of a season ticket right now because they froze,I wonder if there is any thoughts about accelerating sales for 2022/23?

An opportunity to help people budget and get some money into the club especially whilst we're the hottest ticket in town.
 

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No...I think they need to work out who is attending how many games this season first. If someone only attends 5 games on their season ticket this season (Man U, Liverpool, Chelsea, Arsenal and Tottenham for instance) then their seat should be re-offered elsewhere IMO. Some may disagree with that, but we need proper fans in who will go most weeks.

Also the vast majority of our income will be from the TV deal now, I don't think the club have a desperate need to take this money in advance.
 
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This might not be popular, but with a significant number of fans not having to front up the cost of a season ticket right now because they froze,I wonder if there is any thoughts about accelerating sales for 2022/23?

An opportunity to help people budget and get some money into the club especially whilst we're the hottest ticket in town.
Agree that this might be an excellent idea, as long as it is voluntary. Could be a win:win for the reasons you have said.
 

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This might not be popular, but with a significant number of fans not having to front up the cost of a season ticket right now because they froze,I wonder if there is any thoughts about accelerating sales for 2022/23?

An opportunity to help people budget and get some money into the club especially whilst we're the hottest ticket in town.
Maybe. But the club are being handed the first in a series of huge PL TV money cheques this summer, I would hope asking the fans to hand over even more is not top of their to-do list at the moment! Particularly if that is a PL price and so circa 25% higher than what many of us have already spent for this coming season.
 

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Sorry if it's been posted elsewhere -but anyone know what the criteria for getting away match tickets is likely to be? And if we'll have an "away season ticket" option?
 

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Will it still be possible to “upgrade” a Junior season ticket to an adult for individual matches, I am assuming so, as it is incremental revenue in both tickets and potential f&b sales?
 

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I cant quite understand

I want to buy a season ticket for next season, though havent had one previously - would have wanted one anyway even if we hadnt gone up but thats irrelevant - are there any available or is it just become a member again and you can buy the occasional ticket?
 

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I cant quite understand

I want to buy a season ticket for next season, though havent had one previously - would have wanted one anyway even if we hadnt gone up but thats irrelevant - are there any available or is it just become a member again and you can buy the occasional ticket?

No decision has been made as to whether they will sell additional tickets.

As things stand membership and adhoc purchases is your only option.
 

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I've had to register my interest, but have had no indication wether my registration has gone through. Is this normal?
 

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No decision has been made as to whether they will sell additional tickets.

As things stand membership and adhoc purchases is your only option.
Thanks for the answer, if not the nature of the information!
 
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