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A great opening spell, the two early goals were well-deserved although David Hunt's came a bit out of the blue. He was unfortunate with the own goal and that seemed to give Colchester a bit of a spark and although the equaliser was deep into first-half stoppage time, they'd had a couple of near-misses in the few minutes before that.

When Colchester started the second period strongly, I feared that we'd quickly find ourselves behind but a fantastic goal from Charlie Mac put us back in control. I didn't think Diagouraga had a hugely influential game in midfield but he did brilliantly to set up the third goal and I really thought we would hold on for the win.

Some good performances - Szczesny, Legge, Hunt and MacDonald deserve a mention, along with O'Connor at full-back - but Sam Wood at left-back is a real worry. He got turned inside out far too often and didn't really stop anything coming from the left-hand side.

Colchester are awful to watch - typical Bothroyd hoof-ball team.

A good and well-deserved point against a difficult team to play against.
 

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Before the match, I would have taken a point, but with the way it went I would definitely see this as 2 points dropped. The 4-5-1 worked brilliantly - it showed that we always had an extra man in midfield, so we controlled the centre of the pitch. Also the fact that Charlie worked his socks off (as usual) meant that we posed plenty of threats upfront.

The first goal was a rocket of a shot from Hunt after the ball fell to him on the edge of the area. It didn't seem to go in the corner and the goalkeeper didn't move so I assume it was deflected. The 2nd was a superb header from Legge, converting a Hunt corner.

We seemed to be in complete control, but suddenly they halved the deficit after MacDonald looked to have been fouled but the referee gave a handball when he fell on the ball. Colchester got the ball to the right wing, and Hunt seemed to get his feet mixed up and the ball went off him and looped over Szczesny.

As the half went on, we dropped our work-rate and the players started to try to play too intricately and Colchester got a deserved equaliser. However, it came from a corner that seemed far deeper into stoppage time than the 2 minutes indicated.

We started the 2nd half brightly, and a great move released Diagouraga down the left who fed in MacDonald who somehow beat the keeper at his near post. From the start of the 2nd half, Colchester were attacking us almost exclusively down the right wing, and Wood was getting beaten time after time. I think he can do a good job there for us, but it seemed an obvious switch to bring on Foster with the amount of chances they were creating, and of course we eventually conceded that way with Prutton converting a cross.

In the last few minutes, we were hanging onto the point, and Colchester had about 4 corners in a row that were causing us problems. However, in the last minute of stoppage time, we released Weston down the left and very disappointingly, he headed for the corner the flag. We won a corner, but again we had no ambition to score from that, and the final whistle was blown.

Szczesny - was generally commanding, but maybe could have done better to keep the 2nd goal out.
O'Connor - had a solid match, but I don't think he did any better than Foster would have done in that position.
Legge - headed everything, didn't give their forwards anything and took his goal brilliantly.
Osborne - still not the finished product, but he was generally good and I think it would be a shame if we release him in the summer.
Wood - did well in the first half, but was bombarded in the 2nd half and couldn't cope, though Weston didn't always track back to help out.
Hunt - played well in front of the back 4, always looking to break up play and make himself available for possession.
Strevens - was effective in that he gave us extra height and support from deep for MacDonald, but occasionally tried to play like an actual winger and was nullified by their left back when he did so.
Bean - his usual self, got from box to box and wing to wing.
Diagouraga - didn't seem to do much, but did very well in the build-up for the 3rd goal.
Weston - looked confident and was very effective in the 1st half, but Colchester often doubled up on him in the 2nd half so he wasn't as much of a threat.
MacDonald - superb performance upfront, chased after everything and their centre-backs couldn't handle him.
 
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However, in the last minute of stoppage time, we released Weston down the left and very disappointingly, he headed for the corner the flag. We won a corner, but again we had no ambition to score from that, and the final whistle was blown.

I didn't really see why people got too uptight about that - as you rightly say, we had been under intense pressure in the final few minutes and whilst it is irritating to see the ball taken into the corner with several minutes still remaining, it was deep, deep into stoppage time.
 

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To be honest i'm disappointed and not very happy.

Yes, on paper this is a tough game against a playoff side but we really should have won and yet at the end were clinging on for the draw, we should have finished them off before half time. At 2-0 we had them on the racks, they were there for the taking. They had no ideas, no confidence, home crowd starting to boo team and manager, we had a real opportunity but we threw it away. People may think i'm being harsh but if we are going to be a success in this division we have to be ruthless and kill teams off, we can't gift teams chances to get back into games they looked completely out of.

Credit to the players though, the effort and commit was unquestionable and with a makeshift line up and formation they coped reasonably well. Colchester really are a brutal side, big, strong and direct and a style of play that nobody enjoys watching. They hoof it up to Platt and play diagonal balls wide to Lisbie, simple but effective.

Our 4-5-1 worked ok, I felt we could have been more offensive and I don't really see how Strevens suits the line up. Hunty's strike for the goal was clean enough, it was on target but appeared to ricochet off someone and go through a lot of bodies before finding the net. Then Leon powers in a header from a corner and we are in dreamland, comfortable and dominant and three points looking in the bag. But we are our own worst enemies at times, we endured a torrid final twenty minutes of the half, giving the ball away and making sloppy errors on the ball, Wood gets drawn out of position and Hunt someone manages to deflect the ball over Szczesny and into the net, comical. Suddenly they are back in it and it just looked a case of when they would equalise. Not sure where the ref got three minutes injury time but to be fair the goal had been coming, whoever was marking the guy completely lost him and his header squirmed under Szczesny.

Typical brentford, architechts of our own downfall and I don't think either manager would have been happy. The formation restricted our opportunities second half but we took the lead due to some great link up between mac and Diagouraga. Dia won the ball in midfield, broke forward with the ball and slipped a perfect pass into macdonald, it looked like he'd square it to strevens but he squeezed it in at the near post although i think the keeper should have done better.

At 3-2 I thought we'd hold out but Wood was getting terrorised again and again by Lisbie and colchester exposed this by using him as an outlet. Lisbie breezed past wood like he wasn't there and the ball was turned in on the line. Again a goal we could have defended better, Wood for all his effort isn't a left back and this really could be a problem area for the rest of the season.

I must say I was livid with Scott's tactics for the last ten minutes. Reluctant to make any subs when we could have done with an outlet on the right, and yet again Cort is put on twenty minutes too late. Szczesny made a couple of good saves but Legge made some superb headed clearances but we were holding on. What really riled me was our tactics at the end. Weston finds himself in acres of space on the left with Cort in the box, one last chance you'd think to nick a winner at the death. But what do we do, hold it up in the corner and play out the draw, it was clear from the dugout this is what Scott was telling them to do.

On paper a good point and a good return from these two away games but we have to win these games if we want to push on. Scott must be braver and more ambitious, we needed to change tactics earlier and we showed that when we did pass it then colchester were going to find it difficult to stop us. I applaud the players efforts but some individuals weren't at their best, Wood is not a left back and i hope kev is back in midfield on saturday, he is wasted at right back. Strevens for all his determination just isn't the answer especially out wide and if Cort isn't going to start then we badly need two new strikers for next year.

Finally, I really hope Lionel Road doesn't turn out like their ground. Absolute middle of nowhere, fair enough it looks nice and smart but i wouldn't be happy if we traded griffin park for a ground like that.

A good point, but Scott, and the team can and need to do much better. We should have won that comfortably. Legge edges my man of the match just ahead of Charlie and Toumani.

Szczesny-7-Some good saves and handling

O'Connor-5- Poort distribution and wasted at right back.
Wood-5- Got done all night by Lisbie, not a left back.
Osborne-6- Coped reasonably well
Legge-8- Dominant, big and strong, good goal too.

Strevens-4- Not the answer
Weston-7 Another good showing on the left
Diagouraga-7 Generally good, great run and pass for goal
Bean-6- Nice to see him back
Hunt-6- Mixed game, goal but calamity own goal

MacDonald-8- finish for the goal and effort superb.
 

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Agree with pretty all of report, but Lionel Road in the middle of nowhere??
Are you looking at Lionel Road in the middle of the Yorkshire Moors or the one close to the Chiswick Flyover??
 

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Agree with pretty all of report, but Lionel Road in the middle of nowhere??
Are you looking at Lionel Road in the middle of the Yorkshire Moors or the one close to the Chiswick Flyover??

You know what I mean, I just hope our new ground isn't like theirs and has some character about it, when you see grounds like that stuck in a field by a motorway you do feel for the fans.
 

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A great opening spell, the two early goals were well-deserved although David Hunt's came a bit out of the blue. He was unfortunate with the own goal and that seemed to give Colchester a bit of a spark and although the equaliser was deep into first-half stoppage time, they'd had a couple of near-misses in the few minutes before that.

When Colchester started the second period strongly, I feared that we'd quickly find ourselves behind but a fantastic goal from Charlie Mac put us back in control. I didn't think Diagouraga had a hugely influential game in midfield but he did brilliantly to set up the third goal and I really thought we would hold on for the win.

Some good performances - Szczesny, Legge, Hunt and MacDonald deserve a mention, along with O'Connor at full-back - but Sam Wood at left-back is a real worry. He got turned inside out far too often and didn't really stop anything coming from the left-hand side.

Colchester are awful to watch - typical Bothroyd hoof-ball team.

A good and well-deserved point against a difficult team to play against.

I thought Wood did OK, it's just that in the last 15 minutes they were looking for Lisbie at every opportunity, Weston was tracking back well to help him out, Wood made more tackles and interceptions than any other Bees man in the closing minutes: Lisbie did him the once of course, crucially, for the goal. Legge and Sczesny were both outstanding.

We scored a lovely goal, our Goal of the Season?
 

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panic not. we dont have any fields, just the motorway....
 

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in the last 15 minutes they were looking for Lisbie at every opportunity,

Interesting to compare this comment - and I completely agree, in fact it was probably for the last half hour - with the fact that some believe O'Connor didn't play well.

I thought defensively O'Connor was immense. Showed a little the gap between a decent League One right back and a very good one, he was strong, good in the air and did Wordsworth so much that I don't think he touched the ball in the last half hour, they simply didn't bother playing it down that side.
 

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Good point at the end of the day although I came away thinking Colchester had had a bit of luck to get even a draw in spite of their possession.

If that own goal had not gone in I think we would have won, up to then they were simply not at the races. The extra extra extra time corner and goal was very unfair on us.

Leon and KO had a very tough game but came through it with flying colours, Woj saved us a few times and Charlie was easily MoM, everybody else battled away manfully.

Our third goal was sheer class and worthy of winning the game against a side who obviously have been based on the John Beck coaching manual.

As for their new stadium, well it is very nice, very good views and all that and a million miles better than Layer Road but not sure about a community stadium which has no public transport and there is not realistic parking for the masses for about 1.5 to 2 miles away. Maybe why they had a Layer Road sized crowd.
 

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Enjoyed the game but, for a new stadium Sh!t floodlights :( and that poxy scoreboard was 10x brighter than it needed to be - any action in front of that was swamped by the light from the scoreboard :rolleyes:

The Penalty area in front of the Bees fans was one stop darker (half as bright) compared to the other end.

Found out that they brought the lights with them from Layer Road :rolleyes:
 

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According to miserable git Boothroyd his team let in three "daft" goals and his team should have won 3-0.

Don't think he likes us very much as that is another less than balanced view of the game, our three goals were all well worked from open play only one of his was.

Compare that to Scotty's comments which are far more complimentary and balanced to them at least...but there you go , some managers have class and some don't.
 

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Don't think he likes us very much as that is another less than balanced view of the game, our three goals were all well worked from open play only one of his was.

Whilst I think Boothroyd is talking sh*t - he is under real pressure there for the way his team plays and the fact it is no longer producing results - our first came from a free kick and the second from a corner.
 

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Whilst I think Boothroyd is talking sh*t - he is under real pressure there for the way his team plays and the fact it is no longer producing results - our first came from a free kick and the second from a corner.

Indeed. And in all honesty, you would expect a team so dangerous from set-pieces themselves to be equally as capable at defending them.
 

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boothroyd is fast turning into another idiot manager.
 

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Whilst I think Boothroyd is talking sh*t...
I think I heard him say, in the post-match interview, that the "dominated possession"; funny how we had 51% according to the BBC. 49% domination, eh?

Interesting also that he said they knew BFC positioned 3 players on the edge of the box for dead-balls - I think that was what he was meaning with "daft"; they knew we did it, they practised it but still conceded.

Our goals were all well-crafted, with Charlie's a work of art. Their goals were a deflected OG, a scrappy one in the box and a deflection from a (decent) cross. Sam Allardyce would be proud of him.
 

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Their goals were a deflected OG, a scrappy one in the box and a deflection from a (decent) cross.

IMHO their first two goals were complete flukes.

The own goal, which as we all know, could have goen anywhere. And for the second the only reason the guy was unmarked was because they were rushing to take the corner - hit it too long and the guy arriving late from taking the previous corner was in a position to head in.
 

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As I was walking to the ground, I spoke to an older Colchester supporter who was saying that although they are near the top of the table, the football played this season has been some of the worst he has seen in many years. He was not complimentary about Boothroyd's tactics, suggesting that he has no plan B at all - I think I've heard that said before at Watford!
 

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As I was walking to the ground, I spoke to an older Colchester supporter who was saying that although they are near the top of the table, the football played this season has been some of the worst he has seen in many years. He was not complimentary about Boothroyd's tactics, suggesting that he has no plan B at all - I think I've heard that said before at Watford!

The size of their crowds also suggests that fans aren't enjoying the "product"
 

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The size of their crowds also suggests that fans aren't enjoying the "product"

:imwith:

only 3600 odd home supporters, for a team in the play offs, football must be bad.

I can see why 'casual' supporters don't turn up if they have to walk that far to the ground. It's meant to be a Community Stadium. It's a long way from the community IMO.
 

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I was a bit puzzled as to why we only named six substitutes last night?

Surely one of the youngsters (Ryan Blake, Lewis Ferrell, Fraser Franks) could have filled the final spot? After all, Blake was on the bench on Saturday and for a trip to Colchester, it wasn't as if it would have involved an overnight stay, so no additional costs involved.

When I got in the ground and saw both Lewis Price and Simon Moore warming up, I assumed we would have two keepers on the bench!!
 

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Getting off the suject a bit, who is the guy in the wooly hat interviewing Andy on Bees World. He always refers to Andy as Mr Scott, so he is obviously got a lot of respect for him.................................................Many Thanks, Luv Wayfarer.
 

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Getting off the suject a bit, who is the guy in the wooly hat interviewing Andy on Bees World. He always refers to Andy as Mr Scott, so he is obviously got a lot of respect for him.................................................Many Thanks, Luv Wayfarer.

Billy Reeves from BBC London.

I reckon it's all an act ;)
 

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Billy reeves has his own quirky style of patter, he is also the traffic tart on bbc london.
but he is very much a Brentford fan and can be excused his eccentricity's
 

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IMHO their first two goals were complete flukes.

The own goal, which as we all know, could have goen anywhere. And for the second the only reason the guy was unmarked was because they were rushing to take the corner - hit it too long and the guy arriving late from taking the previous corner was in a position to head in.

having seen the goals you can probably say their third had a touch of luck. Undoubtedly good work by Lisbie, but he fires the ball at Prutton who doesn't even move by the looks of it, just has to let the ball hit him and it could have gone anywhere.
 

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You know what I mean, I just hope our new ground isn't like theirs and has some character about it, when you see grounds like that stuck in a field by a motorway you do feel for the fans.

that is what the new brighton ground will be - a few miles out of brighton and on the way to lewes.
 

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Frankly I have given up on this season as long as we avoid relegation. However must improve next season it is simply not god enough to let slip a two goal lead.
 

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that is what the new brighton ground will be - a few miles out of brighton and on the way to lewes.

Think you're a bit off there - it's very well linked in terms of transport already, three stops (about 8 minutes) on the train from central brighton, plus buses 24hrs a day every 5-10 minutes and right next to two university campuses and about 10,000 students. It's a 30 second walk from Falmer train station as well. Easier to get to than the Withdean (or the Goldstone) from whichever way you come. Sounds very different from Doncaster.

It also looks like it'll be a nice ground inside.
 

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Frankly I have given up on this season as long as we avoid relegation. However must improve next season it is simply not god enough to let slip a two goal lead.

OK - I'll have a word with that nice Mr Scott to see if he can arrange for us to get embroiled in a relegation struggle - just to keep you interested for a bit longer :sorted:
 

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Think you're a bit off there - it's very well linked in terms of transport already, three stops (about 8 minutes) on the train from central brighton, plus buses 24hrs a day every 5-10 minutes and right next to two university campuses and about 10,000 students. It's a 30 second walk from Falmer train station as well. Easier to get to than the Withdean (or the Goldstone) from whichever way you come. Sounds very different from Doncaster.

It also looks like it'll be a nice ground inside.

yes it does look great - i passed it last week and it is taking shape.

but it is a fair old way out of the town itself.... i put on one of my festivals in stanmer park (on the other side of the A27) after the council got cold feet and moved us from 'the flat' which was our preferred venue.

i have never been to withdean tbh.

it is easy for me --- straight along the a27 from arundel!
 

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I'm with SussexB, Brighton is a very well-situated ground in many respects.

Possibly the worst aspect of getting there will be by car, but I understand that Sussex University will be freeing up areas of their carpark which will help that one, as the Univ is only 400-500 yards away.

The ground also looks well-designed with a bit more originality that some of the modern clones. I'm not a fan of Brighton but I'm envious of this development and tbf, their fans deserve some reward for the difficult times of the last couple of decades. So do we, but it looks like a longish wait for us............
 

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Frankly I have given up on this season as long as we avoid relegation. However must improve next season it is simply not god enough to let slip a two goal lead.

I'm sure AS really values your opinion.
 

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I'm not a fan of Brighton but I'm envious of this development and tbf, their fans deserve some reward for the difficult times of the last couple of decades. So do we, but it looks like a longish wait for us............

I'm with you there, their fans annoy me and the pious "oh woe is us" wore thin a long time ago, however a good feature on the Late kick off this week about them did soften my heart a bit. Seems incredible that Archer & Belloti got away scot free after raping that club.
 

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I think getting to and from Falmer will be a nightmare with any sort of large crowd.

A common feature of all thse out of town grounds is no street parking. The local train station will not be able to handle than a few hundred at most.I thought Colchesters new ground was a ridiculous place to put a football stadium. OK if they only get sub 5k crowds but heaven knows how they could handle a large crowd.
 

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Before the match, I would have taken a point, but with the way it went I would definitely see this as 2 points dropped. The 4-5-1 worked brilliantly - it showed that we always had an extra man in midfield, so we controlled the centre of the pitch. Also the fact that Charlie worked his socks off (as usual) meant that we posed plenty of threats upfront.

The first goal was a rocket of a shot from Hunt after the ball fell to him on the edge of the area. It didn't seem to go in the corner and the goalkeeper didn't move so I assume it was deflected. The 2nd was a superb header from Legge, converting a Hunt corner.

We seemed to be in complete control, but suddenly they halved the deficit after MacDonald looked to have been fouled but the referee gave a handball when he fell on the ball. Colchester got the ball to the right wing, and Hunt seemed to get his feet mixed up and the ball went off him and looped over Szczesny.

As the half went on, we dropped our work-rate and the players started to try to play too intricately and Colchester got a deserved equaliser. However, it came from a corner that seemed far deeper into stoppage time than the 2 minutes indicated.

We started the 2nd half brightly, and a great move released Diagouraga down the left who fed in MacDonald who somehow beat the keeper at his near post. From the start of the 2nd half, Colchester were attacking us almost exclusively down the right wing, and Wood was getting beaten time after time. I think he can do a good job there for us, but it seemed an obvious switch to bring on Foster with the amount of chances they were creating, and of course we eventually conceded that way with Prutton converting a cross.

In the last few minutes, we were hanging onto the point, and Colchester had about 4 corners in a row that were causing us problems. However, in the last minute of stoppage time, we released Weston down the left and very disappointingly, he headed for the corner the flag. We won a corner, but again we had no ambition to score from that, and the final whistle was blown.

Szczesny - was generally commanding, but maybe could have done better to keep the 2nd goal out.
O'Connor - had a solid match, but I don't think he did any better than Foster would have done in that position.
Legge - headed everything, didn't give their forwards anything and took his goal brilliantly.
Osborne - still not the finished product, but he was generally good and I think it would be a shame if we release him in the summer.
Wood - did well in the first half, but was bombarded in the 2nd half and couldn't cope, though Weston didn't always track back to help out.
Hunt - played well in front of the back 4, always looking to break up play and make himself available for possession.
Strevens - was effective in that he gave us extra height and support from deep for MacDonald, but occasionally tried to play like an actual winger and was nullified by their left back when he did so.
Bean - his usual self, got from box to box and wing to wing.
Diagouraga - didn't seem to do much, but did very well in the build-up for the 3rd goal.
Weston - looked confident and was very effective in the 1st half, but Colchester often doubled up on him in the 2nd half so he wasn't as much of a threat.
MacDonald - superb performance upfront, chased after everything and their centre-backs couldn't handle him.

When we are safe points wise I hope AS gives Blake a chance to show what he can do because I think he is quite good in the tackle and may make a good left back (particularly as Dickson seems unlikely to stay)
 

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i put on one of my festivals in stanmer park (on the other side of the A27) after the council got cold feet and moved us from 'the flat' which was our preferred venue.

Do you mean 'the level'?

Anyway, went to several festivals in Stanmer whilst at Sussex Uni in the mid-90s. If they were your doing, then nice one! Always good value... :sorted:
 

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Aidy Boothroyd the Colchester manager says "that should have been a 3-0 win". I think AS agrees with you.:wave:
 

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I think getting to and from Falmer will be a nightmare with any sort of large crowd.

A common feature of all thse out of town grounds is no street parking. The local train station will not be able to handle than a few hundred at most.I thought Colchesters new ground was a ridiculous place to put a football stadium. OK if they only get sub 5k crowds but heaven knows how they could handle a large crowd.

It really shouldn't be. They're redeveloping Falmer station to take far more people, and the bus service is already used to ferrying thousands of students out there every day. From will be more of a problem than to, but after the logistical nightmare that is the Withdean for them, I think it'll be fine.

Also, there will be parking at both uni's, and dedicated parking for the ground.

Anyway, don't know why I'm defending Brighton here, but I think it will be pretty good - certainly far easier than most out of town grounds. Or in town grounds for that matter.

On the Colchester front - great 3rd goal as everyone's said! :backtotopic:
 

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I'm with you there, their fans annoy me and the pious "oh woe is us" wore thin a long time ago, however a good feature on the Late kick off this week about them did soften my heart a bit. Seems incredible that Archer & Belloti got away scot free after raping that club.

I used to go to Brighton when I lived there. Those fans have suffered more than most and deserve a brighter future. What happened to the club was criminal although the Goldstone is no great loss. Dreadful ground. Although I sympathise with their fans I never liked them. Always moaning and never seemed to back their team when the games wasn't going their way. Bees fans always showed them the way. Cheeserolls!
 

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Sounds like a complete tit. The draw had nothing to do with Brentford playing well, apparently. Just Colchester making mistakes. What game was he watching?
 

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Poor old Bothroyd.:( A injury time handball goal goes against him and he goes all "the world is against" me bollox again. No wins in 6 and a crap team might have something to do with it methinks.
 
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