NEWS COVID-19 Ground Entry Requirements

[TadB]

If we rely on the fact that most people are decent, then why ask them to produce a piece of paper to ‘verify’ they’ve had a recent negative test, rather than just accepting their word for it, particularly when the ‘verification’ is nothing of the sort?

To encourage the others1

 

[Downbeat Bee]

The card should be good enough, but get the app. It’s very easy to do. I imagine in time the card won’t be accepted as it can be forged.

Whereas the declaration of a negative LFD Test is totally reliable.

 

[Isleworth_Bee]

Whereas the declaration of a negative LFD Test is totally reliable.

Of course not. Easily faked.

 

[Deanos196]

So the vaccination card showing both jabs is adequate?

 

[brighton bee]

So the vaccination card showing both jabs is adequate?

Doubt it. You’ll likely need the NHS app.

 

[Alex]

So the vaccination card showing both jabs is adequate?

Don’t think so, you need to have a covid pass which you get based on having had the jabs or negative test

Using your NHS COVID Pass for travel abroad and at venues and settings in England

How to use the NHS COVID Pass to demonstrate your coronavirus (COVID-19) status when travelling abroad and domestically at venues and settings in England.

www.gov.uk

 

[hobbsy]

So the vaccination card showing both jabs is adequate?

They may make an exception during the spot checks but not when it becomes mandatory.

It's best to use these spot check events to get things in order.

 

[Deanos196]

Thanks for your replies it just says throughout the club and premier league pieces in the first post “proof of vaccination” surely the jab card is that? Only says we advise you use the NHS app not mandatory, I don’t want to mess about and inputting info if I already have it on a card in my wallet ready to go that would no doubt be a quicker method of entry than thousands getting there phones out? I’m not being awkward just think most can already prove vaccination status without app no?

 

[Banana]

Thanks for your replies it just says throughout the club and premier league pieces in the first post “proof of vaccination” surely the jab card is that? Only says we advise you use the NHS app not mandatory, I don’t want to mess about and inputting info if I already have it on a card in my wallet ready to go that would no doubt be a quicker method of entry than thousands getting there phones out? I’m not being awkward just think most can already prove vaccination status without app no?

To be sure, why not just download the app and login to it? It takes just a few minutes and then you will be fine. It's not difficult to be "fully compliant", and remove from you mind the worry about it all.

It will also, no doubt, be required for returning the UK after international travel etc. So you are just delaying the inevitable.

 

[grandad85]

Thanks for your replies it just says throughout the club and premier league pieces in the first post “proof of vaccination” surely the jab card is that? Only says we advise you use the NHS app not mandatory, I don’t want to mess about and inputting info if I already have it on a card in my wallet ready to go that would no doubt be a quicker method of entry than thousands getting there phones out? I’m not being awkward just think most can already prove vaccination status without app no?

Probably due to the fact the cards can be easily forged. The writing on my card is no better than my 5 year olds!!

 

[Deanos196]

Probably due to the fact the cards can be easily forged. The writing on my card is no better than my 5 year olds!!

Same with a lft

 

[Deanos196]

To be sure, why not just download the app and login to it? It takes just a few minutes and then you will be fine. It's not difficult to be "fully compliant", and remove from you mind the worry about it all.

It will also, no doubt, be required for returning the UK after international travel etc. So you are just delaying the inevitable.

I realise I’m fighting a losing battle with this and will have to admit defeat and download the nhs app, I just do not like to give any information I don’t need to.

 

[Banana]

I realise I’m fighting a losing battle with this and will have to admit defeat and download the nhs app, I just do not like to give any information I don’t need to.

You are parting with the same information that is on your blue card...

 

[Deanos196]

I’ve just downloaded the app first thing it’s asked for my email and phone number,that is not on my blue card,so that’s not true.

please don’t take this personally I will/have now download the app I just think it’s not necessary

 

[Banana]

I’ve just downloaded the app first thing it’s asked for my email and phone number,that is not on my blue card,so that’s not true.

please don’t take this personally I will/have now download the app I just think it’s not necessary

That doesn't get "given away". It's to enable you to access your own info.

 

[Deanos196]

It’s done now anyway was v quick and easy to be fair keeps everyone happy and gets me into football which is what I wanted

 

[Banana]

It’s done now anyway was v quick and easy to be fair keeps everyone happy and gets me into football which is what I wanted

Exactly.

 

[Isleworth_Bee]

I realise I’m fighting a losing battle with this and will have to admit defeat and download the nhs app, I just do not like to give any information I don’t need to.

Its all linked to your NHS profile. I doubt you are giving away any more info then the NHS already has.

For what its worth it takes 10minutes to set up and all you have to do is verify the account. Its a piece of p**s.

 

[mhead bee]

What is the point, we have been pubbing, clubbing, going to festivals and packing football grounds for a few months now, why are we going through this in another 5 weeks time. If it needs doing we should have started 2 months ago and if it is a new issue from a recent upsurge then why not start today.

 

[mhead bee]

Do u18’s have to have a negative test? They don’t for anything else.

 

[pompeybee]

What is the point, we have been pubbing, clubbing, going to festivals and packing football grounds for a few months now, why are we going through this in another 5 weeks time. If it needs doing we should have started 2 months ago and if it is a new issue from a recent upsurge then why not start today.

I assume they've delayed the start to give all adults the chance to get double vaccinated.

 

[Alex]

Do u18’s have to have a negative test? They don’t for anything else.

They cannot get a covid pass so I assume they are exempt.

 

[ruislip bee]

Its all linked to your NHS profile. I doubt you are giving away any more info then the NHS already has.

For what its worth it takes 10minutes to set up and all you have to do is verify the account. Its a piece of p**s.

10 minutes? Ha. Took me that to work out how to load a photo, video and sound recording each. I'd say more like 90 minutes for non tech / apt savvy people. I did get there in the end though.

 

[hobbsy]

10 minutes? Ha. Took me that to work out how to load a photo, video and sound recording each. I'd say more like 90 minutes for non tech / apt savvy people. I did get there in the end though.

It depends on what your GP has already set up. Because my GP already had a app to book appointments and view my medical history, when I installed the NHS app it just asked for consent to share my information and that was it.

 

[vcmazz]

10 minutes? Ha. Took me that to work out how to load a photo, video and sound recording each. I'd say more like 90 minutes for non tech / apt savvy people. I did get there in the end though.

What is this photo, video and sound recording malarky you speak of? A mate told me he had to do all this. Yet I've simply downloaded the NHS app, I think when I registered they wanted my NHS number. That was it. I now just have to log in for my Covid Pass, one for domestic, another for travel. I never had to make 'Mazz the Movie'?

 

[Alex]

What is this photo, video and sound recording malarky you speak of? A mate told me he had to do all this. Yet I've simply downloaded the NHS app, I think when I registered they wanted my NHS number. That was it. I now just have to log in for my Covid Pass, one for domestic, another for travel. I never had to make 'Mazz the Movie'?

I didn’t have to do anything, just log in with NHS number and consent yet my wife had to do a video of her saying her name.

 

[westendbee]

I don't, Valencia game the bloke insisted he took the phone and scanned for me though.
Would assume they need to actually look at NHS app too if they are checking

But no one does track and trace any more, do they???

 

[daddybee]

What is this photo, video and sound recording malarky you speak of? A mate told me he had to do all this. Yet I've simply downloaded the NHS app, I think when I registered they wanted my NHS number. That was it. I now just have to log in for my Covid Pass, one for domestic, another for travel. I never had to make 'Mazz the Movie'?

I think you'll find that you will only be able to access the domestic one, not the travel one unless you make Mazz the Movie

 

[Babbelfish]

I think you'll find that you will only be able to access the domestic one, not the travel one unless you make Mazz the Movie

To get the travel pass, I had to do all the ID stuff yet my wife didn’t. Odd.

 

[halifaxbee]

To get the travel pass, I had to do all the ID stuff yet my wife didn’t. Odd.

What's the travel pass? Isn't the NHS App suitable for domestic and travel?

 

[Silly Hat]

What's the travel pass? Isn't the NHS App suitable for domestic and travel?

The NHS App features the COVID pass

Using your NHS COVID Pass for travel abroad and at venues and settings in England

How to use the NHS COVID Pass to demonstrate your coronavirus (COVID-19) status when travelling abroad and domestically at venues and settings in England.

www.gov.uk

 

[Babbelfish]

What's the travel pass? Isn't the NHS App suitable for domestic and travel?

The App gives you two options - proof of vaccination for domestic use, and proof for travel. Not sure what the difference in practice is.

 

[Judio1999]

I didn’t have to do anything, just log in with NHS number and consent yet my wife had to do a video of her saying her name.

So did I as well as a photo of my Drivers Licence

Had you signed up to an online NHS system for online prescriptions before ?
Patient Access

If so they know who you are so need less security to get NHS App

 

[bubb]

If we rely on the fact that most people are decent, then why ask them to produce a piece of paper to ‘verify’ they’ve had a recent negative test, rather than just accepting their word for it, particularly when the ‘verification’ is nothing of the sort?

It’s a fair question. I think it’s based on nudge theory. I.e. some people need a ‘nudge’ to do the ‘right’ thing.

 

[BURFORD BEE]

To get the travel pass, I had to do all the ID stuff yet my wife didn’t. Odd.

Same with me. Perhaps a woman designed the App!

 

[SE5Bee]

It’s a fair question. I think it’s based on nudge theory. I.e. some people need a ‘nudge’ to do the ‘right’ thing.

Nice phrase “Nugde theory” I’ve never heard it before.

 

[ruislip bee]

Well I have the digital version via the App but also have the hard copy paper version. However I received a text this morning from the NHS saying they notice I haven't applied for one attaching a link to do so. Bit strange.

 

[jlove]

Well I have the digital version via the App but also have the hard copy paper version. However I received a text this morning from the NHS saying they notice I haven't applied for one attaching a link to do so. Bit strange.

Clearly, you're on the NHS 'belt and braces' watch list...

 

[SE5Bee]

Well I have the digital version via the App but also have the hard copy paper version. However I received a text this morning from the NHS saying they notice I haven't applied for one attaching a link to do so. Bit strange.

Make sure the text is from NHS.

 

[bubb]

Nice phrase “Nugde theory” I’ve never heard it before.

All part of behavioural science or economics. Interesting, but also there’s a case where someone made loads of money writing a book about it based on faked data that he claimed showed people are less likely to make fraudulent insurance claims if the honesty statement is at the beginning of the claim form rather than the end.

 

[badgerbee]

I’ve realised I can’t download my COVID pass to my Samsung phone directly from the NHS App. It says it’s downloaded, but I’m not able to locate it. It’s the same when trying to do a screenshot of it from the App.
The only way I’ve been able to save a copy on my phone, is to request an email copy via the App, and then download it from the email.
The download from the App, and screenshot options work fine on my iPad.

 

[Brentford_till_die]

What is the point, we have been pubbing, clubbing, going to festivals and packing football grounds for a few months now, why are we going through this in another 5 weeks time. If it needs doing we should have started 2 months ago and if it is a new issue from a recent upsurge then why not start today.

madness isn't it, ok for the last 3 games, the next 2 then apparently something is happening in a months time.....when these trial spot checks will become mandatory.
I haven't seen anything but I guess this is just premier league and not EFL ? So it would be ok for Sheff Utd to have over 10k and no checks or did I miss this about the EFL?

 

[jlove]

madness isn't it, ok for the last 3 games, the next 2 then apparently something is happening in a months time.....when these trial spot checks will become mandatory.
I haven't seen anything but I guess this is just premier league and not EFL ? So it would be ok for Sheff Utd to have over 10k and no checks or did I miss this about the EFL?

What has been trailed so far is that the restrictions COULD be for "sports and for seated events with a capacity of more than 20,000 people", with a much lower threshold for unseated events, such as music gigs. It APPEARS that the Premier League will require all PL stadia to adopt the same regulations, even for the BCS that does not have that capacity, and I'd GUESS it will apply in the football league.

Whilst the government has been extremely tardy in just about everything, the "I used to do it but now I can't" argument for any regulation does not really hold water. I used to get a child to clean my chimney, so why can't I do it now.

 

[Sandybee]

Will be interesting. Our ticketing system struggles with scanning in match day tickets. Can only assume it will be random spot checks when fully mandated unless a quick flash of your pass to a steward prior to the entry barrier to the stadium.

I predict a riot! Well, maybe not, but it looks like checking verification for everyone is going to prove to be impractical, and a quick flash of your pass is, dare I say it, meaningless. We had enough trouble getting people into the BCS for the league cup game without all this.

 

[hobbsy]

I predict a riot! Well, maybe not, but it looks like checking verification for everyone is going to prove to be impractical, and a quick flash of your pass is, dare I say it, meaningless. We had enough trouble getting people into the BCS for the league cup game without all this.

Agreed on some parts but we did have half the turnstiles out of operation for that match.

 

[Leonardo]

Interesting the players can get in the stadium without being jabbed but fans can’t.

I’m not really comfortable with this measure given we have probably reached a form of herd immunity.

And I type that as someone that is pro vaccines and has to adhere to covid protocols at work and at weekends as a photographer.

my GP worked out last week herd immunity needs to be 90% of entire population including babies having had vaccine

 

[Gee Bee]

What is the point, we have been pubbing, clubbing, going to festivals and packing football grounds for a few months now, why are we going through this in another 5 weeks time. If it needs doing we should have started 2 months ago and if it is a new issue from a recent upsurge then why not start today.

And daily figures have been rising. Little seems to bother them with that, yet they seem to want to bring in additional red tape again after the horse has bolted and with very little control anyway. Potential of small mitigation, but at what cost?

 

[Gee Bee]

I predict a riot! Well, maybe not, but it looks like checking verification for everyone is going to prove to be impractical, and a quick flash of your pass is, dare I say it, meaningless. We had enough trouble getting people into the BCS for the league cup game without all this.

Is it a check for everyone? Plenty have said they got into Euro matches without showing anything or showing someone elses etc. Cannot believe any check will be over rigorous and end up a tick box exercise. I can show mine and also have the kids LFT's from their school tests confirmed by email, assume that's enough

 

[vcmazz]

I think you'll find that you will only be able to access the domestic one, not the travel one unless you make Mazz the Movie

Nope. I can access both?

 

[Gee Bee]

madness isn't it, ok for the last 3 games, the next 2 then apparently something is happening in a months time.....when these trial spot checks will become mandatory.
I haven't seen anything but I guess this is just premier league and not EFL ? So it would be ok for Sheff Utd to have over 10k and no checks or did I miss this about the EFL?

It's all sports with excess of 20K stadia isn't it? Government directive being followed.