Covid and the future of games (43 Viewers)

[nick logan]

112 positives in 3,507 tests... that is a lot.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1347536492365803520

A third at just 3 clubs though

 

[Vid]

Players told not to hug after scoring. QPHa players should be ok.

 

[Themepark]

Non-league looks like it's on the way out. Clubs being surveyed now with leagues recommending the stop.

Sky Article

Suspect the proper "out of the pyramid" stuff (below National level, Sunday league level) might come back for a bit as they have shorter ish seasons anyway with leagues being smaller.. but it's a big statement to come out with from Steps 3&4.

 

[Themepark]

All non league football below the national league will be terminated.
Not sure if leagues are far enough advanced to use PPG

Nailed on. Finishing the season isn't possible and PPG just can't work this early on. Some haven't played since October

Elite surely going to pause for a while soon surely..?

 

[RAF_Patto]

For the lower levels, I would personally like to see them reinstate last seasons results and combine them with those games completed this year. There must a full seasons worth of results for most leagues, surely? Do promotions/relegations based on these outcomes.

 

[hanwellbee]

For the lower levels, I would personally like to see them reinstate last seasons results and combine them with those games completed this year. There must a full seasons worth of results for most leagues, surely? Do promotions/relegations based on these outcomes.

Is it fair though to include results from a different division for promoted/relegated clubs?

 

[RAF_Patto]

Is it fair though to include results from a different division for promoted/relegated clubs?

I don't know of many leagues below Vanarama N/S that did promotion/relegation last season?

 

[hanwellbee]

I don't know of many leagues below Vanarama N/S that did promotion/relegation last season?

But can you give equal weight to points gained against part-timers cf Barrow and Harrogate? And they had fewer games.

 

[Guildford Bee]

But can you give equal weight to points gained against part-timers cf Barrow and Harrogate? And they had fewer games.

Eh? Barrow and Harrogate are in League Two.

We’re talking about non-league below National League N/S.

They should’ve rolled last season over when they had the chance. Although many clubs only played around eight games this season.

 

[Themepark]

I don't know of many leagues below Vanarama N/S that did promotion/relegation last season?

Season was expunged outside of elite IIRC

It's a fairly reasonable idea to combine the records of both seasons I think. Maybe PPG any fixtures that don't add up to a full season?

You'll never keep everyone happy, but better to do that than have two ghost seasons surely?

 

[hanwellbee]

Eh? Barrow and Harrogate are in League Two.

We’re talking about non-league below National League N/S.

They should’ve rolled last season over when they had the chance. Although many clubs only played around eight games this season.

But were in the bananarama last year...

 

[Guildford Bee]

But were in the bananarama last year...

Those divisions aren’t affected by this as they’re considered “elite”. The curtailment will apply to all divisions below

 

[hanwellbee]

Those divisions aren’t affected by this as they’re considered “elite”. The curtailment will apply to all divisions below

Yes but some are still part-time so in theory easy points...

 

[seanrs]

I’m guessing it must have been mentioned already but what about scrapping the euros? That will allow time for a season break

 

[Banana]

I’m guessing it must have been mentioned already but what about scrapping the euros? That will allow time for a season break

No chance.

 

[ladbroke]

I’m guessing it must have been mentioned already but what about scrapping the euros? That will allow time for a season break

Considering its not an individual host, not much money will be lost.

 

[jlove]

Considering its not an individual host, not much money will be lost.

I'd imagine EUFA depend on the competition for their revenues.

 

[seanrs]

I'd imagine EUFA depend on the competition for their revenues.

Regardless of that I think it should at least be considered. We can’t be the only country struggling to squeeze league games in to tight schedules

 

[RAF_Patto]

Yes but some are still part-time so in theory easy points...

I'm not talking about that level though? I am talking about division BELOW Vanarama North and South. Barrow, Harrogate and all those other sides above that level don't come into it.

Despite last seasons results being null & void, I am sure all leagues do still have a record of the results - reinstate them, add them to this seasons results and make some movements in the pyramids.

 

[Guildford Bee]

The scenes in Marine will not have helped football’s chances of continuing

 

[HaylingBee74]

The scenes in Marine will not have helped football’s chances of continuing

What scenes?

 

[hanwellbee]

I'm not talking about that level though? I am talking about division BELOW Vanarama North and South. Barrow, Harrogate and all those other sides above that level don't come into it.

Despite last seasons results being null & void, I am sure all leagues do still have a record of the results - reinstate them, add them to this seasons results and make some movements in the pyramids.

Ooohhh. OK.

 

[Guildford Bee]

What scenes?

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1348293361266954240

 

[Ealing Bee]

Aston Villa have been given permission to postpone their game at Spurs (scheduled for this Wed.13th Jan) due to Covid.

But Spurs can now use that date to play Fulham instead, a game previously scheduled for 30 Dec, but postponed due to Covid at the Cottage. This has the knock-on effect of seeing Fulham's next home game vs Chels moved from Friday 15th to Saturday 16th and Villa's home game vs Everton from Saturday 16th to Sunday 17th. (Presumably this sees Villa clear of the isolation period?):
Spurs v Fulham switched in reshuffle

The PL seems desperate to avoid a football lockdown, or circuit breaker, though they add that it was felt unfair to ask Villa to follow the same procedure in a Premier League game [as in the FA Cup, where they played U-18's], because it would affect the competitive balance of the competition.

 

[The Pipe]

Factually Villa wouldn’t have been able to play their U23’s as they would not have been in the Premier League squad announced by Villa and would be in contravention of the rules. Sensible decisions by all concerned

 

[LIONHEART]

I’m guessing it must have been mentioned already but what about scrapping the euros? That will allow time for a season break

Hope not i still have tickets for this which i bought 2 years ago

 

[Ealing Bee]

Factually Villa wouldn’t have been able to play their U23’s as they would not have been in the Premier League squad announced by Villa and would be in contravention of the rules.

You may well be right - I'm by no means sure of the rules.

That said, isn't the PL squad designed to identify 26 players who definitely can play, whilst including a minimum number of home grown players and youngsters etc? In other words it most relevant to older/overseas players on the list, whose numbers are restricted.

Meaning (I think) that you can still play as many home grown youngsters from outside the 26 as you like, even if that rarely happens?

Sensible decisions by all concerned

Yep.

 

[hobbsy]

European Rugby competitions suspended. Is this the start of elite sports stopping?

 

[A Real Mysteron]

Aston Villa have been given permission to postpone their game at Spurs (scheduled for this Wed.13th Jan) due to Covid.

But Spurs can now use that date to play Fulham instead, a game previously scheduled for 30 Dec, but postponed due to Covid at the Cottage. This has the knock-on effect of seeing Fulham's next home game vs Chels moved from Friday 15th to Saturday 16th and Villa's home game vs Everton from Saturday 16th to Sunday 17th. (Presumably this sees Villa clear of the isolation period?):
Spurs v Fulham switched in reshuffle

The PL seems desperate to avoid a football lockdown, or circuit breaker, though they add that it was felt unfair to ask Villa to follow the same procedure in a Premier League game [as in the FA Cup, where they played U-18's], because it would affect the competitive balance of the competition.

Maybe Sky will cover Bristol v Bees instead!

 

[cheshirebee]

European Rugby competitions suspended. Is this the start of elite sports stopping?

Hopefully not.
Key difference is the need for international travel so hopefully not an indicator for domestic games. Also pushed by French govt. I think. I wonder if they’ll push for the same for Champions League footy but I suspect UEFA would just carryon without the French teams which is not really an option in the Rugby.

 

[JCMcBee]

European Rugby competitions suspended. Is this the start of elite sports stopping?

....yep....they feck up our pitch....then start the ball rolling for the ceasation of elite sport......whats not to like about eggchasing.

 

[A Real Mysteron]

....yep....they feck up our pitch....then start the ball rolling for the ceasation of elite sport......whats not to like about eggchasing.

They spend half the game with their heads up each other’s arses and rolling around on the floor, then having soggy biscuit style high jinks after the game.
It’s hardly the same as our, beautiful game in terms of infection risk.

 

[Themepark]

'Patience wearing thin' with football

An expected article.. with Rugby's news today - feel like this is becoming more and more inevitable

 

[Nada Bee]

'Patience wearing thin' with football

An expected article.. with Rugby's news today - feel like this is becoming more and more inevitable

prem won’t stop. Too much money involved. Rugby doesn’t have that luxury.

 

[Beecareful]

prem won’t stop. Too much money involved. Rugby doesn’t have that luxury.

don't bet on it. i fear all remaining sport will be suspended by the end of this month. i hope i am wrong.

 

[Ealing Bee]

I always kinda liked Scott Parker, but today he showed himself up for being an idiot.

Spurs had this Wednesday's match with Villa postponed because of Covid in the Villa camp. So the PL are allowing Spurs to use that date to play a game against Fulham, which had been postponed from 30 Dec (Covid in the Fulham camp).

Now Parker is complaining:
"I am angry because it is not right. It is wrong. That is why I am so angry," said Parker.
"The possibility of playing Spurs on Wednesday came on Saturday.
"We didn't think that was realistic and we were informed Monday morning at 9:30. To confirm that on Monday morning is scandalous. I accept we have to play the game, but it's the notice."

But here's the thing:
Asked if Fulham had a right to be upset, given the original match was called off with less than three hours' notice, Tottenham boss Jose Mourinho said: "Are you serious? I had the news I was not going to play them two hours before the game started."
Rearrangement 'scandalous', says Parker

Sorry, Scott, but people have a hell of a lot more to worry about than your little problem.

You know, Covid and stuff...

 

[hanworthbee]

'I am angry because it is not right. It is wrong'

why not just say I'm angry as it's wrong.....odd

 

[Judio1999]

Grimsby are first club to be punished


But an investigation found that social distancing rules had not been followed, meaning more players than should have been necessary had to self-isolate.

Players were allowed to congregate in communal areas at their Cheapside training ground, while the BBC also understands former boss Ian Holloway admitted to investigators that he played darts with some of his players, which he claimed was a training tool.

It is thought players were also involved in car sharing and that the Mariners failed to conduct an adequate risk assessment by a suitable specialist before re-opening their kitchen at the training ground.

 

[Gazza Bee]

Grimsby are first club to be punished


But an investigation found that social distancing rules had not been followed, meaning more players than should have been necessary had to self-isolate.

Players were allowed to congregate in communal areas at their Cheapside training ground, while the BBC also understands former boss Ian Holloway admitted to investigators that he played darts with some of his players, which he claimed was a training tool.

It is thought players were also involved in car sharing and that the Mariners failed to conduct an adequate risk assessment by a suitable specialist before re-opening their kitchen at the training ground.

Explains why he left the club before this story broke...

 

[Judio1999]

The club were fined £4,880, which is suspended until June.

 

[Banana]

Another club, another 2 fixtures.

 

[Banana]

Pep saying that players can't comply....this won't end well.

 

[Banana]

Oh BTW - 10A: Hit the headlines
26A- The Beggars Opera

 

[nocoat]

Pep can’t even stand up for two minutes without spitting so what do you expect?

2 down - paddock fatties

 

[hanwellbee]

Oh BTW - 10A: Hit the headlines
26A- The Beggars Opera

2d gathering

 

[Andrelux]

18a magic

 

[Andrelux]

24d evens

 

[hanwellbee]

17d emphatic

 

[hanwellbee]

27a cashew

 

[hanwellbee]

19d cairene