Voice from the Braemar
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A good keeper but beginning to get on my nerves with these continuous clangers....it’s gonna cost us big time soon....needs to sort his fkin head out ASAP....we can’t keep giving teams a head start
You've made your point. I agree with you. Others do not. Don't let it worry you.On a night we should be celebrating a comeback win and now clear in 2nd place, I was only making positive comments about our keeper in my opinion, end off. Not going to bother to get any more discussion about him.
Fulham *cries*Weird cos last season I dont remember him dropping clangers like this. Lets hope he's had his quota for this term now. Still our No1.
Measured over their whole careers, it would be easy to make a comparison between the two, however, a loss of form can happen to anyone, and is temporary. He’s been 1st choice for a long time. Maybe he needs a rest. I would imagine that being a keeper is very stressful. I remember Richard Lee saying he only enjoyed the matches after the final whistle!No chance. Raya has messed up a few times but his use of the ball is better than Daniels. You keep the best player in the shirt at this time of the season. We just have to accept that he has had a few poor ones.![]()
Agree, not defending his clangers, just thinl he's our best current option.I think the fact we won today buys him more time but surely no one is undroppable
Fulham *cries*
Richard Lee's book is a good read. He experienced a lot of anxiety during his career, especially at Watford (who wouldnt). Wasnt really enjoying the game, nearly quit, but worked hard on his mindset to pull through. Quite inspiring really, always liked him and he loved his time at BFC, very fond of the fans and the clubMeasured over their whole careers, it would be easy to make a comparison between the two, however, a loss of form can happen to anyone, and is temporary. He’s been 1st choice for a long time. Maybe he needs a rest. I would imagine that being a keeper is very stressful. I remember Richard Lee saying he only enjoyed the matches after the final whistle!
Dont think Thomas will drop RayaThat's another awful error. You do have to wonder if it sends a great message to the rest of the team that Raya is seemingly undroppable![]()
Agree I'm ecstatic about the results today but blindly praising players when they don't deserves it does them no favours and only brings them into question imo.On a night we should be celebrating a comeback win and now clear in 2nd place, I was only making positive comments about our keeper in my opinion, end off. Not going to bother to get any more discussion about him.
I liked him until he started trying to flog me coffee on Twitter in some sort of dodgy pyramid scheme.Richard Lee's book is a good read. He experienced a lot of anxiety during his career, especially at Watford (who wouldnt). Wasnt really enjoying the game, nearly quit, but worked hard on his mindset to pull through. Quite inspiring really, always liked him and he loved his time at BFC, very fond of the fans and the club
That's harsh though, in the circumstances: a). he was pressed directly by Stoke forwards, and b). first half at least (when his distribution was off kilter) Stoke had everyone marked up so tightly in our half that absolutely nobody was free to receive the ball.That mistake was awful. ****ing awful. But lets not look past the fact hes a better keeper then Daniels by miles. His distribution was off a little as well today.
New GK coach not working?
Better than Daniel by miles? Better - yeah. Most of the time. By miles? No chance.That mistake was awful. ****ing awful. But lets not look past the fact hes a better keeper then Daniels by miles. His distribution was off a little as well today.
New GK coach not working?
Most sensible post on this thread today. Raya has been linked with Premiership teams because they have had their scouts watching him. All keepers make errors but the key point is the mental strength to put it aside. How many times at Griffin Park have we totally fazed a opponent’s keeper by our chants - it’s all you fault for exampleAllison at Liverpool is considered one of the very best in the Premier League but has proved to have mistakes in him. Raya has made mistakes but equally in some games has been the reason for victory
Raya is good, Daniels is good but not such a sweeper keeper, either choice is fine but I feel that Raya is the better option of the 2 and reckon the coaches will share that opinion
The other thing is, that assuming Raya does not become a total disaster (I don’t think he will and think he is very good, when not handing out free gifts to oppo forwards) it’s not in the financial interest of the club as he is a high value saleable asset and dropping him for any sustained period would significantly reduce his value at point of sale.I'm not sure the debate is as simple as saying Raya is better than Daniels. Raya is at his best a superb keeper aggressive in his style, decisive, superb reactions and peerless in the Championship in terms of his distribution. However he is not currently at his best, yes of course keepers make mistakes but the frequency of those errors and magnitude is significant & a concern. The second Coventry goal and Stoke's opener today were poor errors in passing and judgement & unnecessary. In Raya's defence he never let's errors impact his confidence and for the rest of the game remained confident & dealt well with any Stoke threat.
IF - and it's a huge IF- TF does bring Daniels in I would be absolutely confident in his ability to do an excellent job, he is a highly competent keeper & proven performer. However I can't see Frank dropping Raya for the Norwich game it's not his style but any more bloopers and more will start to question if it isn't time to give Daniels a run.
don’t buy this ‘dodgy on crosses’ thing. He’s been as good as anyone in recent years at picking out (and catching) crosses.. think there’s a little rose-tinted going on with Daniels in this regard too as he’s far more likely to stay on his line which puts more pressure on the CBsPros:
Wonderful shot stopper
Comfortable with ball at feet and brilliant distribution
Quick off his line
Cons:
Claiming crosses or balls in the air
Prone to the odd mistake
Would be really interesting to get the opinions of the back 4 as to who they would rather have behind them after his last mistake.
I'd still be perfectly happy with Raya or Daniels starting but equally I dont buy all this "just play it safe for the first 20 minutes" logic either. The answer is don't make silly mistakes - doesn't matter whether its the first 20 or last 70 minutes. It's not to stop playing the way we have become successful with, for the first 20 minutes. Just instills a culture of fear![]()
Daniels also played in the first four league games also. Players make mistakes all over the pitch and in most cases don't pay for them unfortunately keepers more than often do. AFA crosses are concerned as some have alluded to on here Raya claimed at least three yeatersay comfortably when under pressure. Should not be dropped and is a good .member if the squad for team spirit alone .I suppose the question is then, how many more big mistakes does he need to make before he deserves to lose his place? One? Two? Is it irrelevant if our attackers continue to be able to score at least two per game to cancel it out?
And truthfully how are any of us qualified to say how much better he is than Daniels? Based on 5 cup appearances this season, 4 of which were against Premier League opposition?
I’m not sure where I stand on if he should be dropped or not, but it’s certainly worthy of discussion. There seems to be a bit of an assumption that Raya’s the better keeper ‘just because he is’.
That's his last life gone. Has to be Daniels until the end of the season now.
Two factors that other teams’ coaches have picked up on, and are trying to exploit it.That's harsh though, in the circumstances: a). he was pressed directly by Stoke forwards, and b). first half at least (when his distribution was off kilter) Stoke had everyone marked up so tightly in our half that absolutely nobody was free to receive the ball.
I agree with all that. He has had more than his fair share of rickets this season. The difference this year, compared to other recent ones, is that there is the talent and steely determination to get back into games. Something like 21 points gained this season from losing positions - the best in the division. For the last few seasons, it was pretty much nailed on that if we went behind, we wouldn't win (a couple of notable exceptions Millwall & Charlton last year).Raya is more than a keeper to us, he is part of a very strong spine of the team when all are fit, and all of them are leaders. As good as Daniels is he does not have that presence. Raya is an integral part of the team that forms the strong spine that the rest of the team is built on, this does not change because of his mistake. I expect him to show his leadership qualities now and return better than ever.
I think his claiming of crosses and catching the ball above his head are generally very good. He certainly catches rather than punches most which is good to see.Pros:
Wonderful shot stopper
Comfortable with ball at feet and brilliant distribution
Quick off his line
Cons:
Claiming crosses or balls in the air
Prone to the odd mistake
Would be really interesting to get the opinions of the back 4 as to who they would rather have behind them after his last mistake.
I'd still be perfectly happy with Raya or Daniels starting but equally I dont buy all this "just play it safe for the first 20 minutes" logic either. The answer is don't make silly mistakes - doesn't matter whether its the first 20 or last 70 minutes. It's not to stop playing the way we have become successful with, for the first 20 minutes. Just instills a culture of fear![]()
Interesting that some people are listing this a weakness. I think it's a strength, Raya comes and claims a lot of crosses, he doesn't punch them he catches them and that takes a lot of pressure off of the defence. He's far superior to previous number ones like Button and Bentley in this area and Daniels as well who is solid but doesn't have the 'handling' ability that Raya does to catch crosses.Cons:
Claiming crosses or balls in the air
Not that harsh, he sent a high proportion of his kicks into the stands, we seem to forget that Bentley was berated for doing just that.That's harsh though, in the circumstances: a). he was pressed directly by Stoke forwards, and b). first half at least (when his distribution was off kilter) Stoke had everyone marked up so tightly in our half that absolutely nobody was free to receive the ball.
Yes by miles and thats why Arsenal are interested. DR will play more games at a higher level then Daniels ever will.Better than Daniel by miles? Better - yeah. Most of the time. By miles? No chance.
Nail on the head, Daniels is a safe shot stopper with less influence IMO. DR brings so much to the table.We’ve got a huge presence and influential keeper rather than a safe shot stopper.
He makes decisions and he is a sweeper keeper whose excellent distribution is a hugely important factor in the way we set up (we’re second and the highest scorers in the league with he greatest goal difference).
He is mortal and makes mistakes, a couple of very frustrating ones in last couple of weeks but I still maintain at this level his overall contribution is better than almost any other keeper in this league.
The passing out from his own box is risky but % wise it’s been excellent this season with two big blips, not sure with the pitch like it was yesterday it was wise in first two minutes to be going short and we got caught.
Goalkeeping coach should be telling him to be more aggressive when coming out for the ball from set pieces and smash the granny out of everyone and anything in his way as refs never give a foul against the keeper. On other crosses in play he is excellent.
If we get up I think we may need a bigger, better version of the same type of keeper or our style will see us winning lots of admirers and very few points if we go behind.
He’s miles better than any other keeper except Czezney who wasn’t ours anyway IMHO