- 5 Jun 2002
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- Now Chiswick (proud to be a YIMBY)
It is outrageous, but it was also perfectly within the laws of the game.
No, you're still offside if the opposition player you recieved it from was making a goal-bound save or block.Although does it not also suggest that a poorly controlled save by Lloris means that Toney is onside for a recent semi final goal?
I agree, and if it hasn’t already, it will be the cause of someone getting badly injured due to the defender attempting to make an unnecessary last ditch / desperate challenge - only for a flag that could have gone up 20 seconds before suddenly being raised or VAR to show the obvious.The law is an ass. Simple as that.
IFAB need to change the law.
It’s bad enough losing time to players receiving the ball in an offside position and allowing play to continue. They’re off. Clearly offside. Yet the decision is delayed losing time for the opposition. Laws need to change. The offside law is one.
Source: PGMOL guidance: Offside - interfering with an opponentPGMOL said:Following the offside situation in the recent Premier League match between Manchester City and Aston Villa - which generated significant debate and discussion within the game - PGMOL has subsequently discussed the incident with both The IFAB and UEFA to consider how to act in the best interests of the game in future situations of this type, ensuring that the spirit and intention of the Law is best reflected in decision-making going forwards.
The general consensus during the game between Manchester City and Aston Villa was that Rodri gained an unfair advantage in being able to challenge Tyrone Mings in starting from an offside position, immediately after Mings had chested the ball.
Following these positive discussions, The IFAB has provided the following clarification emphasising what should be prioritised when interpreting similar situations in the future. The guidance for match officials in interpreting Law 11 will now include the following advice:
Where a player in an offside position immediately impacts on an opponent who has deliberately played the ball, the match officials should prioritise challenging an opponent for the ball, and thus the offside offence of ‘interfering with an opponent by impacting on the opponent’s ability to play the ball’ should be penalised.
Accordingly, if a similar situation to the one involving Rodri’s impact on Mings occurred in a future match, then the impact would be penalised for offside.
However, it is important to remember that where a player in an offside position receives the ball from an opponent who deliberately plays the ball (e.g. a mis-placed pass or miskick), including by deliberate handball, the player is not considered to have gained an advantage, unless it was a deliberate save by any opponent. Accordingly, Aston Villa’s first goal against Newcastle United on Saturday 23 January 2021 was correctly not penalised for offside as Watkins received the ball following a deliberate play by Schar and did not impact Schar’s ability to play the ball.
Like Moyes, and the miracle transformation he's performed on Said.......Speaking in today's Sunday Times about Ollie Watkins, Dean is typically generous in acknowledging Bees' role in Ollie's development:
"Every week we speak well of Ollie's performance, he is selfless in terms of his workrate," said Dean Smith, Villa's head coach, who left Brentford to join the club he supported as a boy in 2018.
"Having worked with him and [knowing] the way Brentford go about their business in terms of coaching I knew he was ready to play Premier League football."
Many another manager would claim all the credit for himself.
When teams do well we praise players. When they don’t do well we blame the tactics and manager. It’s a football trueism.9th in the PL as of early April. I never thought he'd last at Villa, he is doing well especially given where they were when he took over.
Iffy form since early February though - no wins in March, but beat Fulham at the weekend. Coinciding with a certain key midfielder's absence.
It will be interesting to see how they adapt if Grealish decides to move on to better things at some stage - a friend remarked to me the other day that "Watkins doesn't get chances if Grealish isn't playing" - I imagine many fans put their success down to having a midfield talisman that actually likes the club, rather than Dean Smith's successful management.
Fairly detailed tactical analysis of his time at Brentford and Aston Villa here:
Aston Villa are again competitive in the Premier League because of the management of Dean Smith. Our professional coaches examine his methodswww.coachesvoice.com
(Although I did have to Google Li Ke to remember who that was!)
He is doing well without doubt, and I am eating humble pie right now. Did not think he would last and thought it only a matter of time before John Terry was in the hot seat. I am pleased for him especially as he is a very decent guy, and is giving us back handed compliments by signing our players who all seem to be doing OK. Ollie Watkins was a natural fit under Smith at AV, and so it has turned out to be.Hes doing a brilliant job.