Derby 2 - 2 Bees (Toney(p), Canos)

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Utterly pathetic 2nd half. What the f*** went on at HT? Did they all take some sleeping pills? f*** sake.
 

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If anyone recorded it - play the 2nd half and count up how many times we gave the ball away, how many times we won a 2nd ball, how many times we had the ball and just cocked it up.

Sadly, we are heading for the playoffs and that will be because of earlier form because we are having to many halves l8ke this 2nd half 😢😢
That's as bad a half of football as I've seen from us. The substitutions were far too late and needed to be proactive. Second half performance smacked of complacency but no game is won at 2-0. In the end it was a fair scoreline and we made a bad team look good
 

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Terrible 2nd half. The worst part is we had all our leaders out there... with the squad available that is pretty much our best team available. Poor.
 

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The championship is a unforgiving league the twists and turns start from game 1 , ye we are up there, what right do we have to nail a top 2 position from what I have seen over the season so far we look a top six side
 

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That’s how I’m seeing it.

Yup, totally agree.

We are a championship team and if by any miracle we went up , we would get hammered 9 days out of 10.

I am sorry, but have I missed some new law that was passed that says any team that goes up is not allowed to buy any new players?

what on gods green earth makes you think we would attack the prem league with the same starting 11.

I have read people saying the same thing about Swansea. They would get battered every week.

It is such an irrelevant point to make, going up is the be all and end all, who gives a sh*t about next season and who actually believes the same 11 players would be our starting team.
 

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I never really get too excited or downhearted when it comes to Brentford.
I have been resigned to the play offs for a while now.
Would normally be content with a point at Derby but that 2nd half effort shows our issues and limitations.
Need a convincing win v Forest Saturday to get the feel good factor back before the break.
 

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That's as bad a half of football as I've seen from us. The substitutions were far too late and needed to be proactive. Second half performance smacked of complacency but no game is won at 2-0. In the end it was a fair scoreline and we made a bad team look good
Yeah, a perennial complaint from me for seasons now is that we leave our subs for too long (ok, not on here). Especially when we have 5 of them. Look how Barnsley have adopted tactics to use the extra subs, and look how Rooney used his extra two at HT today.
 

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We are a championship team and if by any miracle we went up , we would get hammered 9 days out of 10.

To lose tonight proves Frank has no plan other than the one the team takes onto the pitch, we can’t take the high press or pressure teams use against us. We don’t control the middle of the pitch for a whole game and the tippy tappy football out of our own box causes problems.

We will finish 4th and that’s a joke.

Sadly most will say” wow isn’t it great” but it’s not.

We need someone who knows how to get a team promotion, not nearly promoted. IMHO

The tippy tippy football out of our box set up the second goal. It didn’t cause us to concede.

Anyway, I assume you are talking sh*t because you are upset.
 

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It may have already been said but I think we can say goodbye to automatic promotion, it’s Play Offs for us now
 

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I think that's it for top two now. A reality check please-

1) Far too many soft goals let in recently. A problem that's not being solved.
2) Derby couldn't score in a brothel before tonight, but get 2 goals.
3) We were lucky to get the win against Blackburn - if they had attackers, we wouldn't have won.
4) Those 2 sides are amongst the poorest for current form in the league - if we can't dominate them, we don't deserve top two.
5) We still have far better attacking sides to play than this. What's most concerning is that we had an experienced line up tonight and there was bugger all leadership on that pitch.

We might have a game in hand and be 5 pts behind Watford - I would have some hope if I thought we could string some wins together. There are no signs of this, unfortunately. Belief is one thing, hope is another, but what we are seeing on the pitch at the moment is not the form or belief of a side that will finish top two or win the play offs. I still think it's all between the ears and our fellas are just not mentally strong enough.
If Blackburn had played from the start with thier second half line up they would have beaten us. Tonight we had no reaction to Derby going three at the back, we got totally overrun by their change in formation. Did Frank not notice? We all could watching from home 👀
 

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That’s how I’m seeing it.
Don’t agree. It’s not over yet. It’s a set back for sure and TF and his team need to sort it and pretty dam quick. Our problem if it’s the play offs will be Barnsley. Unless we can regain some of the quality passing and control from earlier in the season, then that’s all we have got. Still got to play a lot of teams we can beat. When’s Josh fit again? ?
 

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Very good first half and could and should have been more ahead.Then threw it away second half. Think we need an upgrade on our wide players in the summer. They havent been consistently good enough all season for me. Bryan poor control and lucky to be brought down for the first and then missed a sitter...some of Sergis decision making and giving the ball away in bad areas is awful at times.. for someone of his experience he should do alot better. 2 points lost.
 

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That was all TF's fault..... As soon as he knew DC had made 3 changes and formation HE should've done the same...... WE'VE GOT NO PLAN B. And let's have a bit of urgency from the back....,
 

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Game of two half's. Really disappointing and I fear the hope of automatic promotion is fading away. Teams that win promotion don't throw away a two goal to a side who haven't scored in four games. I think our head coach and the whole team showed their naivety tonight. As for the play-offs we all know what happens when it comes to those.
 

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other teams fans, usually qpr are constantly knocking us for being bottle jobs when it comes to the big moments......when you watch 2nd halfs like that when theres so much at stake you cant help but think where the feck is it going wrong ? we seem to lack real leaders in that team when the chips are down......tf really needs to look at that 2nd half and see what we can do about it in the future,,,,,,,before its too late
 

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I don't think we're good enough for promotion. Even in our 21 unbeaten run we got away with a lot of average performances including the sh*te 0-0 with Derby which I was there for. The left back problem is almost self inflicted. Watford now pulling away and can't see them losing too many more. Play off will be the usual lottery which I honestly think Barnsley will win.
Hope we can keep enough players to challenge next season when real football returns.
Watford still have all the top five to play so ain't over yet. Though it feels like it tonight
 

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Mbeumo apart from winning a penalty contributed NOTHING whatsoever. I know a lot won’t agree and he has some assists granted but he has been woeful this season IMO
The penalty actually came about from him squandering the chance too I thought.
 

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I’m losing patience with Mbeumo. I wish I didn’t feel this way. But if he’d sunk that open goal we’d have won that 4 or 5 nil.
Agree... Think he was lucky to get the penalty aswell as it was very poor control that led to it.
 

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I’m losing patience with Mbeumo. I wish I didn’t feel this way. But if he’d sunk that open goal we’d have won that 4 or 5 nil.

same here. Desperately want him to find last season’s form.Gives too many passes away and rarely beats his man this season, then puts in a MoM performance next game....which he’s due one Saturday.
 

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Swansea starting to get at ‘their work’.
there will be a penalty very soon.
ref will need to be strong
 

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This passing across the back causes us more trouble, so we just get stuck without even crossing the half way line.
Raya often passes the ball to our defender who has already got a Derby player breathing down his neck!
See ya at Wembley. This team is not good enough to go up automatically.
Well in that case we are better off where we are,and in all honesty we are probably not good enough to get to Wembley. Imo these were two must win away games that should have been won. How the f*** did bryan miss the chance to score? It was harder to miss
 

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Therapeutic vent incoming.
I am so pissed off. Every damn year we do it - fail to take our chances, fail to adapt to another team's changes, assume we are going to win because we are 2 up. Just immature. And we can't always play the 'young team' card as an excuse. We had some experienced players out there and the manager should have known better. Out thought by the spud faced nipper. Bloody embarrassing. Swansea give us an easy leg up (game not over, admittedly) and we refuse to take it. Beaten in playoffs by effing Barnsley at this rate.
 

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One of the biggest problems we have is squad depth.

A team that wants to win promotion from the championship shouldn’t have to bring Fosu on for Canos. Or play Forss on the wing.

And I genuinely struggle to think of a time we have looked good when Jensen isn’t on the pitch. Nearly everything good comes from him going forward - whether it is a pocket of space he finds or a little flick pass that opens up the pitch. Unless he is knackered or injured he should be on the pitch all the time.

No reason why we can’t go up Though. Just need some confidence back.
 

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other teams fans, usually qpr are constantly knocking us for being bottle jobs when it comes to the big moments......when you watch 2nd halfs like that when theres so much at stake you cant help but think where the feck is it going wrong ? we seem to lack real leaders in that team when the chips are down......tf really needs to look at that 2nd half and see what we can do about it in the future,,,,,,,before its too late
Worryingly every single 'leader' we have was on the pitch in the second half
 

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I’ll feel better about the draw if Bournemouth win. We still have a game in hand over Watford and have to play them.
 

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Does anyone know the logic for bringing on Roeslev in place of Mbeumo?

Sorensen was just about coping at left back, with support from Reid, so why destabilise the defence for the last 10 minutes of the match. It was confusion in that area which led to the equaliser.

Zamburek or Marcondes would have been a better sub for Bryan.
 
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