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He lived his life to the fullest - good for him. Coupled with the fact he was the greatest player ever. His achievement at the 1986 World Cup was amazing but his playing career at Napoli was just simply exceptional.

Will always be remembered for good and bad but mostly good for what he brought to the football pitch.

The man was a genius which nobody can argue with.
 

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I was fortunate enough to go to Mexico for the 1986 World Cup and watched Argentina play Belgium in the semi-final and then West Germany in the final, an unforgettable experience in the Azteca. I was at the other end when Maradona scored against Belgium and couldn’t understand how he had managed it when he had half the Belgium team surrounding him. Nobody around me could quite believe it either at first as it seemed impossible. Sadly, geniuses aren’t often the nicest.
 

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Really ? He cheated and then he lied, I prefer my football heroes to have a bit more honour. Btw I don’t hold it against him, but let’s not pretend he didn’t mean it.
When did he lie about it?
 

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I can never forgive him for '86 but I hope he rests in peace. A footballing genius but also a troubled soul. He was literally, as Banana's post above alludes to, considered a God in Argentina.
 

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Would recommend Maradona in Mexico on Netflix, for a fly on the wall documentary series on his time in club management 1/2 years ago. Very enjoyable viewing.
 

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A football genius and the fact reports of his death still even mention what was admittedly a disgraceful and shameful piece of refereeing says more about us than it does about him.Rest in the peace you were never allowed in life.
 

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Greatest goal I've ever seen in that 86 world cup. Very talented but can't laud him as any kind of hero.
 

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The greatest ever, lots of holier than nows around at the moment but only because he did what a hundred players do every week against us in a world cup.

All I can say is God, I wish he was born in England and played for us in 86.
 

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The greatest ever, lots of holier than nows around at the moment but only because he did what a hundred players do every week against us in a world cup.

All I can say is God, I wish he was born in England and played for us in 86.
Yep. I doubt we'd have been hating an England player for 34 years if he'd done it against them and let's be honest, how many would if they thought they'd get away with it? If Mbeumo does it against SBR on Friday, we'll all have a bit of a giggle at how jammy we are to be one up. Never understood the hate really.
 

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It will always will be a matter of opinion about who is/was the greatest player ever ( I begin and end with George Best) but there is no doubt Maradona was a very gifted footballer, one of the most gifted we have seen.

Not my idea though of a sporting hero or role model ( and not because of 1986) .
 

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Yep. I doubt we'd have been hating an England player for 34 years if he'd done it against them and let's be honest, how many would if they thought they'd get away with it? If Mbeumo does it against SBR on Friday, we'll all have a bit of a giggle at how jammy we are to be one up. Never understood the hate really.
EXACTLY!
 

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Very nice. Here’s some great footage of another legend of his own sport, demonstrating just how world class he was at his peak......

You can do better than that. Football is not an endurance sport where the best drug cheaters win.

And on your other point re the 1994 WC. He wasn't on drugs that game. It was the next game that he was "unfortunately" selected for a drugs test 😇

Not only that but the biggest drug cheater in the whole of human history LOST
 
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A god, no? Admire a complex genius (5,8)

Ah fond dog will twist and turn to achieve a dubious goal (4, 2, 3)

Retired PE teacher fails to catch up. (5,4).
 

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Very nice. Here’s some great footage of another legend of his own sport, demonstrating just how world class he was at his peak......

You made your point. Again. Do you really think sticking industrial quantities of Colombian marching powder up his nose helped his game?

 

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It will always will be a matter of opinion about who is/was the greatest player ever ( I begin and end with George Best) but there is no doubt Maradona was a very gifted footballer, one of the most gifted we have seen.

Not my idea though of a sporting hero or role model ( and not because of 1986) .
George Best is probably the greatest footballer to ever emerge from the British Isles and I would support that argument with you.
His demon was alcohol. So much so that it killed him despite repeated warnings.
Would George be your idea of a sporting hero/role model ?
 

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It will always will be a matter of opinion about who is/was the greatest player ever ( I begin and end with George Best) but there is no doubt Maradona was a very gifted footballer, one of the most gifted we have seen.

Not my idea though of a sporting hero or role model ( and not because of 1986) .
And George Best was?....a womanising alcoholic just like Diego.
 

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George Best is probably the greatest footballer to ever emerge from the British Isles and I would support that argument with you.
His demon was alcohol. So much so that it killed him despite repeated warnings.
Would George be your idea of a sporting hero/role model ?
Accept that being a sporting genius often seems to come with flaws and I don’t think George fitted the category of a role model due to his drinking and lack of professionalism at times.

He came across as a very likeable guy though and quite humble in his latter days, not something that struck me with Maradona.
 

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A god, no? Admire a complex genius (5,8)

Ah fond dog will twist and turn to achieve a dubious goal (4, 2, 3)

Retired PE teacher fails to catch up. (5,4).
Diego Maradona

Hand of God

Peter Reed

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Accept that being a sporting genius often seems to come with flaws and I don’t think George fitted the category of a role model due to his drinking and lack of professionalism at times.

He came across as a very likeable guy though and quite humble in his latter days, not something that struck me with Maradona.
If he was around today treating women the same way you may have a different opinion?
 

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It made me think of Terry Fenwick being asked why he did not foul him when he did the mazy run for that amazing goal in Mexico World Cup , he said ' I could have been sent off'.
He was indeed a class act.

That is in poor taste. Did you deliberately search that out when so much wonderful awesome footage is available? He was no angel, nor is anyone. Surely it is better to look up at his remarkable talent than down at this weaknesses.
 

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Some of the comments above are laughable. If Shilton had made his punch the hand of god would never have been a thing or if the referee/ lineman’s had done their job properly. Can’t understand why some people can’t even acknowledge his footballing genius but rather focus on an ‘incident’ that happened 34 years ago. How have you all slept at night since?

I re-watched the Asif Kapadia documentary about ‘Maradona last night about his time in Naples. Highly recommend it.

That second goal he scored against England on that pitch I don’t think anyone other player in the history of football could have scored it. His performance in the semi final was equally as great.

I remember my dad telling me about the Argentina team of 78 with Kempes, Luque, Passerella and a little boy that was Maradona. Would have loved to have seen that team play ‘live’.
His place in football history is secured and for the vast majority he was a genius that I doubt we will see again in our lifetime.
 

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Accept that being a sporting genius often seems to come with flaws and I don’t think George fitted the category of a role model due to his drinking and lack of professionalism at times.

He came across as a very likeable guy though and quite humble in his latter days, not something that struck me with Maradona.
George was a humble person from a child to his death.
Incoherent at times, but nevertheless.
He had it all and some.
Diego was a different person.
Outspoken, flamboyant, controversial.
Humble beginnings, but not so later in life.
Two great people two great footballers and both different.
I would have loved their talent, but not their life.
 

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The state of some of these posts. I suppose people have the right to still be angry over him cheating for the Hand of God. Just as I’m sure the same people will bring up Geoff Hurst cheating in an even bigger match by claiming a goal that never crossed the line when he dies...

RIP Diego.
 

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You made your point. Again. Do you really think sticking industrial quantities of Colombian marching powder up his nose helped his game?

I wasn’t aware you were some kind of self-appointed arbiter of people’s opinions.

Maradona got away with a heavy drug habit for years. im assuming you’re not aware that Barcelona had to hold his training sessions in the evenings to let him get down from his nightly coke binges the evening before. If there’d been a credible player drug testing regime in the early 1980s then only the most devoted followers of Spanish football of that era would recall Maradona’s name as he’d have been banned from playing after his first test.

But I guess this is me making my point. Again.
 

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The state of some of these posts. I suppose people have the right to still be angry over him cheating for the Hand of God. Just as I’m sure the same people will bring up Geoff Hurst cheating in an even bigger match by claiming a goal that never crossed the line when he dies...

RIP Diego.
....yep...winning at all costs...comes with a price.:sneaky:
 

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The state of some of these posts. I suppose people have the right to still be angry over him cheating for the Hand of God. Just as I’m sure the same people will bring up Geoff Hurst cheating in an even bigger match by claiming a goal that never crossed the line when he dies...

RIP Diego.
You’re equating a player claiming the ball crossed behind the line, his team mate (Roger Hunt) turning away rather than just heading it into the back of the net, and a well placed linesman giving it with somebody who literally punched the ball into the back of the net and then proudly, unashamedly saying that’s exactly what he did and, if given the chance, he’d do it again with his other hand.

The state of some of these posts.
 

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Some of the comments above are laughable. If Shilton had made his punch the hand of god would never have been a thing or if the referee/ lineman’s had done their job properly. Can’t understand why some people can’t even acknowledge his footballing genius but rather focus on an ‘incident’ that happened 34 years ago. How have you all slept at night since?

I re-watched the Asif Kapadia documentary about ‘Maradona last night about his time in Naples. Highly recommend it.

That second goal he scored against England on that pitch I don’t think anyone other player in the history of football could have scored it. His performance in the semi final was equally as great.

I remember my dad telling me about the Argentina team of 78 with Kempes, Luque, Passerella and a little boy that was Maradona. Would have loved to have seen that team play ‘live’.
His place in football history is secured and for the vast majority he was a genius that I doubt we will see again in our lifetime.
I'm not sure Maradona played in '78.
I remember my first ever game at Wembley, he played as a 19 year old in a friendly against England in 1980, when we beat them 3-0. He was the new kid in that side, so I son't think he would have been established in the team in 78.
Regarding the hand of God goal, that was Shiltons' chance to punch the ball away & knock seven bells out of him into the bargain, yet Maradona actually out-jumped him.
Losing to that goal would certainly have stuck in the craw, back then football was nowhere near as cynical as it is today.
But the second goal was genius, even though strangely I don't remember enjoying it much at the time.
He's certainly not a player you want kids to look up to, but his incredible natural talent was undeniable.
 
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Movie is well worth watching it was on tv a few months ago and imagine it'll be on again soon
 

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I was only 5 in 1986, but having watched it again, the hand of god could be seen as adequate payback for 2 elbows (Fenwick) and a potential career ending tackle (Reid).
The Tunisian ref was clearly considered naive and a soft touch, both teams took advantage of that in their own way. Just we like to pretend we’re angels.

Plus Shilton rising like Big Daddy at his heaviest didn’t help.
 
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I'm not sure Maradona played in '78.
I remember my first ever game at Wembley, he played as a 19 year old in a friendly against England in 1980, when we beat them 3-0. He was the new kid in that side, so I son't think he would have been established in the team in 78.
Regarding the hand of God goal, that was Shiltons' chance to punch the ball away & knock seven bells out of him into the bargain, yet Maradona actually out-jumped him.
Losing to that goal would certainly have stuck in the craw, back then football was nowhere near as cynical as it is today.
But the second goal was genius, even though strangely I don't remember enjoying it much at the time.
He's certainly not a player you want kids to look up to, but his incredible natural talent was undeniable.
No he wasn't in the 78 squad.

I was also there in 1980. It was actually 3-1. Future Bees non-legend Kenny Sansom hacked young Diego down to give Argentina a consolation goal from the spot.
 

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