Does losing to the river rats make it feel worse?

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I'm still hurting so much and I think losing to our rivals makes it twice as painful as if it were to a random team like Stoke. All those times we've done them time and time again in regular season games over the last 5 years, then they do us when it really matters.
 
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Feel like all those previously great memories like Jota in the last minute, 1-4, the Maupay equaliser, the double this season...have all been deleted by what happened in this match now.
 

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Not especially. We had a fantastic season, with loads of good memories, not just those against Putney and all of it feels a bit pointless now.
 

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Not especially. We had a fantastic season, with loads of good memories, not just those against Putney and all of it feels a bit pointless now.
Agree up to your last 8 words Blue Jay. A wonderful wonderful season. Our highest league finish in over 70 years. The best Brentford team I have witnessed in 43 years supporting the Bees (and I'm sure the same applies to those supporting far longer than I have) and we have gained invaluable experience. That was possibly the key difference between the two teams on the night - experience. We tend to learn fast and I'm sure like the Doncaster/Yeovil experiences, we'll be back stronger next season.

We'll be back. Next season (5 and a bit weeks away), we go again!! COYB!!
 
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Of course it’s all in our heads so shouldn’t matter that much(!) but they will always have that big moment over us, to sing about for evermore.
Whereas we’re singing about a winner in a mid season league game nearly 5 years ago :-(
 

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No. We've had a more than decent record in the recent past against them. We have been their bogey team for quite a while now. They simply sussed us out on Tuesday, and wereplaced probably overdue a win against us. The fact it was a set piece and not open play that they scored first from did make it more disappointing for us, though.
 

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No not for me. It would have been equally as painful if it had been anyone else, it was therefore for the taking irrespective of who we played.

Oh well as NLB says time to move on..
 

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I thought it would matter but as soon as it kicked off i lost sight of who we were playing and i became fixated only on us and our performance, just willing us to do ourselves justice, unfortunately we didnt. Even if we would have won i wouldnt of cared that we had beaten fulham, all that mattered was getting promoted
 

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Had we been there it definitely would but I find it difficult to get worked up about a rivalry when a game’s in an empty stadium and their fans are nowhere near as annoying on social media as the likes of Leeds.
 
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It's a massive blow but we are BRENTFORD SUPPORTERS well used to this , just get over and move on.
 

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I think it would probably feel almost as bad if it was any other team. It makes it a little worse - it probably would have had more of an impact if we were there.
 

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At least i wasnt coned again losing to them is a killer im still mad the team let me down again big time we were a joke..
 

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No. It wouldn't matter who we lost to. What hurt the most is the combination of 3 opportunities to get promoted and the annoyance that with the spotlight on us, some of us got all Billy Bigbollox about it and we failed.
 

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Not for me. I enjoy the away games there. I would have hated losing in the play-offs to an anti-football team. To lose to NF or Brum would have felt worse and very frustrating.
 

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I have handled it by telling all my fulham mates they they did a brilliant research and execution job on us and I didn’t think they had it in them to change tactics and stick to it for 120 mins. Deserved to win and and good luck.

It kills them stone dead and they can’t gloat or piss take.

I do drop in that I thought there were 2-3 reds in there and we could have done a smash and grab if the ref had balls but I don’t linger as it starts to look like sour grapes so I move on.

On our fantasy football WhatsApp banter page someone posted the Brentford badge with Bottleford on it, I replied, “that is about right, however I console myself with the fact fulham spent 100m on players from their parachute payments and we spent about 9m and still finished above them”

Then they all started on about how they admire what we have done etc.

The truth is the only people that really care about it is us and we can get back into it in a few weeks time.

What a season we have coming up, bees up fulham down.
 

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I'm still hurting so much and I think losing to our rivals makes it twice as painful as if it were to a random team like Stoke. All those times we've done them time and time again in regular season games over the last 5 years, then they do us when it really matters.
Not really. However good we can be it's proved again we need to deal with terms who try to stop us playing. I'm sure Mr. Frank & his staff are pleased to have something more to work on.
 

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Had we been there it definitely would but I find it difficult to get worked up about a rivalry when a game’s in an empty stadium and there fans are nowhere near as annoying on social media as the likes of Leeds.
Agree completely. Obviously I'm gutted we didn't win but that feeling hasn't lingered as much as I expected. I feel a bit detached from it having not been there. In the past, watching opposition players and fans etc celebrating together in the stadium has often been the lasting memory but don't have that this time, it seems less significant. I don't know why but I specifically recall losing to Carlisle in the JPT final in 2011 and seeing them all going mental as we trudged out the stadium with that Vaccines song (If you wanna) belting out in the background. Whenever I hear that now it always takes me back to that moment.
 

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I'm still hurting so much and I think losing to our rivals makes it twice as painful as if it were to a random team like Stoke. All those times we've done them time and time again in regular season games over the last 5 years, then they do us when it really matters.
Its the worst ever.

And it was always going to happen wasnt it.
 

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It would have annoyed me more to lose to Leeds to be honest.
 

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I thought it would matter but as soon as it kicked off i lost sight of who we were playing and i became fixated only on us and our performance, just willing us to do ourselves justice, unfortunately we didnt. Even if we would have won i wouldnt of cared that we had beaten fulham, all that mattered was getting promoted
Give over. Beating them would have added to it without question.

Last night was always going to be the best or worst ever result as a Bees fan. And in our history so far with what was riding on it
 

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Yeah. It hurts a bit. But not as badly as Huddersfield on pens in 95.

Think it would have been worse had we been there and there would have been ‘gloating’ outside Wembley afterwards.

I’m honestly not that bothered about being promoted this year.... what’s the point if you can’t go to the games?
 

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It would have been infinitely worse if we had been there and had to watch their fans giving it large.
 

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It's sh*t but there are various reasons why it's not as sh*t as it would 'normally' be:
- No crowd (feel a bit detached from it all not being there and actually would have felt cheated having not been able to celebrate it if we'd won)
- Doubt over how interesting next season will be (regardless of the league) without crowds
- Doesn't feel like a once in a blue moon opportunity for promotion (we'll knock on the door again soon)
- Having a new stadium to concentrate on (a 100+ year event rather than a one season event)
 

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I have taken a family of Fulham fans to Gatwick.
Listening to them talking about Tuesday night hurt.
They now know who I support though and commended us on a well run club whose day will come.



Got a fellow driver who is FFC and I have not seen him yet.
:)
 

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Disappointed - yes .. upset that it was Fulham .. no not really

Don’t think Fulham were that much better than us . 2 teams snuffing each other out.

More pissed off that all the Leeds fans giving it large on social media .. I hate that club so much
 

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Yeah. It hurts a bit. But not as badly as Huddersfield on pens in 95.

Think it would have been worse had we been there and there would have been ‘gloating’ outside Wembley afterwards.

I’m honestly not that bothered about being promoted this year.... what’s the point if you can’t go to the games?
Not being able to actually go to the games definitely takes the sting off, imagine being locked out of trips to Anfield and Old Trafford etc. I feel a bit numb about the whole thing at the moment. Going to one in every four games at a new stadium and there only being 4k there hardly sets the pulses racing

At the same time I desperately wanted the success for MB, the £180m-odd would've set us up for years to come. Instead we're left in a division which is a bit of a basketcase at present.

Very confident about next season though.
 

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No. It wouldn't matter who we lost to. What hurt the most is the combination of 3 opportunities to get promoted and the annoyance that with the spotlight on us, some of us got all Billy Bigbollox about it and we failed.
Very true! Posters who should know better predicting easy wins or tempting fate by tweeting pictures of Lionel Road just before the Barnsley game declaring that the new ground is premiership bound. The team had a great season and I am very proud of them. I would love for us to sign a robust midfielder; that for me is where we have been lacking in recent games. Fulham put in some very cynical challenges in the Final; I just think we need a bit more mettle!
 

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Much worse for me, the absolute worst (with the exception of it being QPR I suppose).

It's something we'll never be able to erase form our history. Something they will now always have over us that trumps many times over; Bees Up Fulham Down, Jota in the last minute and the various other times we've been able to lord it over them.

We've put them in the Premier League, we've given them those riches.

Exacerbated by the fact we messed up the opportunity to go up automatically too.

Sad times.
 
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Disappointed - yes .. upset that it was Fulham .. no not really

Don’t think Fulham were that much better than us . 2 teams snuffing each other out.

More pissed off that all the Leeds fans giving it large on social media .. I hate that club so much
Just proves that social media is a pile of s**t when it is misused. Let’s not forget that supporting teams is fundamentally about rivalry. Frankly, I’m tired of patronising views of Brentford; who cares what others think about us?!
 

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Much worse for me, the absolute worst (with the exception of it being QPR I suppose).

It's something we'll never be able to erase form our history. Something they will now always have over us that trumps Bees Up Fulham Down, Jota in the last minute and the various other times we've been able to lord it over them.

We've put them in the Premier League, we've given them those riches.

Sad times.
The essence of anything good comes from the soul. They have fans with clappers...enough said!
 

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Nope. Couldn’t give a rats arse.

If it was QPR.......:banghead:

But it’s Fulham. Phew......

Let’s look forward and not back eh?!
 

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nothing compares to saying goodbye to GP yesterday :cry:
 

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I thought it would matter but as soon as it kicked off i lost sight of who we were playing and i became fixated only on us and our performance, just willing us to do ourselves justice, unfortunately we didnt. Even if we would have won i wouldnt of cared that we had beaten fulham, all that mattered was getting promoted
Kind of with you on the Fulham bit. I must admit that like you, that went out of the window for me. I actually said weeks ago when promotion was in our own hands for the first time, somewhere on the GPG (I forget which thread), that my biggest fear was blowing it at Stoke and losing to Fulham in the final on penalties. I honestly thought that was what would happen and I was kind of sneered at for being unrealistic. But I wasn't far wrong and there's absolutely no doubt in my mind that had it gone the distance, there was only one possible winner in the shootout.

But I don't really agree that we 'didn't turn up'. It wasn't great, but I think it was our best play off final performance so far. At least we were still in it deep in to extra time. I think the truth is, the run we went on after restart gave us delusions of grandeur. We're a very good team, but perhaps not as superior as we allowed ourselves to think. People criticise certain performances but let's face it, Stoke, Barnsley, Fulham, they all did jobs on us with very good performances. I'd go as far as to say that the Fulham game after restart was very similar to the final. That could have gone either way but we got the breaks late on that time. We didn't exactly steamroll them.

So no, like most I've got Fulham mates so through gritted teeth, good luck to them. Now the dust has settled, it doesn't matter as much as I thought it would that it was Fulham. Just so long as the ***** come straight back down. :sorted:
 

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Makes no difference to me whether we lose to Real Madrid, Barcelona or Fulham. A defeat is a defeat and I take no consolation from the identity of the opponent.
 

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Give over. Beating them would have added to it without question.

Last night was always going to be the best or worst ever result as a Bees fan. And in our history so far with what was riding on it
The worst ever?!! Come on Herb. That would be the likes of losing on the last day at Bristol City and Bristol Rovers to get relegated - or almost every game in that dreadful dreadful season when we finished rock bottom of the third tier and seemed to be plummeting head first to oblivion.

The understandable disappointment of Tuesday night is actually a measure of just how much our wonderful club has progressed in the last 10 years.
 

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Not being able to actually go to the games definitely takes the sting off, imagine being locked out of trips to Anfield and Old Trafford etc. I feel a bit numb about the whole thing at the moment. Going to one in every four games at a new stadium and there only being 4k there hardly sets the pulses racing

At the same time I desperately wanted the success for MB, the £180m-odd would've set us up for years to come. Instead we're left in a division which is a bit of a basketcase at present.

Very confident about next season though.
You've basically echoed my exact thoughts on the subject - for me the financial side was the overriding factor in wanting to win not the prospect of not going to away games or the vast majority of homes either. Promotion can wait until next season when hopefully we can all return to games as normal :)
 
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The worst ever?!! Come on Herb. That would be the likes of losing on the last day at Bristol City and Bristol Rovers to get relegated - or almost every game in that dreadful dreadful season when we finished rock bottom of the third tier and seemed to be plummeting head first to oblivion.

The understandable disappointment of Tuesday night is actually a measure of just how much our wonderful club has progressed in the last 10 years.
Look what was riding on it. It was definately the biggest game in our history to date and it was against our rivals.

As said above, that result is marked on us forever now.

Im loving what the club are doing these days but **** me, following Brentford can be soul destroying at times.

I didnt want fulham at any point on the play offs.
Going out to someone else would have hurt but not like this.
The lowest ive ever felt after one of our failures
 

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