Does losing to the river rats make it feel worse?

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It hurts, but Fulham will be rooted to the bottom of The Prem next season.
 

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Yes it makes it worse. This was the perfect time to go up and it didn't happen. I don't feel anything but gratitude towards the players and staff but it is going to sting for a long time and has tainted all the memories our victories over Fulham.

Anyway Bees Up Fulham Down next year.
 

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No. But QPR would have been another matter entirely!
 

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I think losing to Fulham was also preferable to losing to Forest in the final, another set of absolute arseholes and a prospect I was dreading.
 

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Not for me. I enjoy the away games there. I would have hated losing in the play-offs to an anti-football team. To lose to NF or Brum would have felt worse and very frustrating.
I can take losing to Fulham but yes, I would have been really disappointed to lose to a side like Forest, Cardiff, Millwall etc. I actually found the Stoke and Barnsley performances harder to deal with than the Fulham game. It's an age thing with rivalry. I had been going to Brentford for 15 years before I saw us play Fulham and don't have any particular issues with them. My son is the opposite but he has been watching these derbies since his early days at GP.
 

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I would have rather lost to them twice in the regular season and beaten them here! This will sadly be held against us now.. kind of invalidates all of those good performances over the years.
 

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I would have rather lost to them twice in the regular season and beaten them here! This will sadly be held against us now.. kind of invalidates all of those good performances over the years.
no it doesn't :sorted:
 

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no it doesn't :sorted:
I would have rather lost to them twice in the regular season and beaten them here! This will sadly be held against us now.. kind of invalidates all of those good performances over the years.
I’m with Nick here. It was a one off.... with no crowd....at a neutral venue. **** it.

It would have been far worse if we’d played them over two legs, with the second leg being at GP and them winning the last ever game and scoring the last ever goal at Griffin Park.
 

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The cost of missing out on the Premier League, this year of all years, outweighs the Putney factor by about a hundred. Or maybe even 100,000,000. Somewhere in that range.
 

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Look what was riding on it. It was definately the biggest game in our history to date and it was against our rivals.

As said above, that result is marked on us forever now.

Im loving what the club are doing these days but **** me, following Brentford can be soul destroying at times.

I didnt want fulham at any point on the play offs.
Going out to someone else would have hurt but not like this.
The lowest ive ever felt after one of our failures
Biggest? Now you're talking. Yes, that probably was our biggest game (so far ;))

but I felt far lower when
Notts County equalised in 90+6 to effectively send us down (after one season in the second tier)
Bristol City then thumped us 4-1 in a must win game to actually send us down
Bristol Rovers beating us on the last day of the season to put us down to the 4th tier
Losing to Non-League teams in the FA Cup (especially Kingstonian at home)
THAT game against Doncaster Rovers (I think that was the worst I've ever felt leaving a football ground)
 

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Much worse for me, the absolute worst (with the exception of it being QPR I suppose).

It's something we'll never be able to erase form our history. Something they will now always have over us that trumps many times over; Bees Up Fulham Down, Jota in the last minute and the various other times we've been able to lord it over them.

We've put them in the Premier League, we've given them those riches.

Exacerbated by the fact we messed up the opportunity to go up automatically too.

Sad times.
Yep, just like Doncaster will always have that Trotta moment over us and we will never be able to forget it..... oh wait.

At some point in the future we will be above them again and Tuesday will seem so insignificant. And then at another point in the future Fulham will be back above us again. That's football. Plus, I always find it is quite hard to be as upset by Fulham, their fans are very apathetic in general.

If you are going to lose to your local rivals in a Play Off final, a Tuesday night in August behind closed doors in one off the most boring play off finals of all time is the way to do it. Just wait until Barbet's 93rd minute Wembley winner against us in front of 90,000 next May, that will hurt :fishing:
 

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Nah, the prize was the disappointment to miss out on, not the who. I do agree that it will make chanting '4-1 on your own back yard' a bit meaningless though, as they can say 'yeah but...we won the bigger game'. I suppose that was getting a bit dated anyway.

Hopefully we can either join or replace them next season.
 
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The great thing is of course is that everyone is entitled to their own opinion. Personally, as an over-50, I hate them and it hurts much more than losing to Crewe, Stoke & Yeovil. In the most perverse way I'm glad I couldnt be at Wembley because I wouldnt have been able to stand seeing all their smug faces leaving the ground. Like I say, this is just my own personal opinion, I'll get over it (eventually), and once the new season gets underway we can all get on with supporting the best team in the world. CYOB.
 

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Yes, because even though it shouldn't, in a way it feels like it's invalidated all of those other great results against them over the past 5 years. 'Bees up, Fulham down' feels especially redundant now.

Incredibly they've only beaten us twice in our last eleven meetings, but then they've won the only one that truly matters, so we've got as good as nothing over them now.

I'd more than happily trade those 6 wins in recent years to have won on Tuesday, but alas.
 

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Feel like all those previously great memories like Jota in the last minute, 1-4, the Maupay equaliser, the double this season...have all been deleted by what happened in this match now.
That’s about the strength of it. Nothing compares.
 

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Yep...they can Lord it over us for years now....would only gave been topped had the won the Europa league
 

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Yes - can't stand them and never had. However, in fairness to them they haven't been putting it in our faces/ gloating as much as I thought they would. Whereas Leeds god forbid, for every 1 Fulham comment, they are about 20/30 Leeds comments on social media. They are now in my **** list also.
 

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Yeah. It hurts a bit. But not as badly as Huddersfield on pens in 95.

Think it would have been worse had we been there and there would have been ‘gloating’ outside Wembley afterwards.

I’m honestly not that bothered about being promoted this year.... what’s the point if you can’t go to the games?
I was gutted Tuesday night and still am - but today felt a slightly better and this wasn't like Huddersfield 95 at all.

I take your point about the gloating and there was however, lots of anger amongst bees fan on Tuesday night so maybe wise there was no crowds.
 
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At least our games next season wont be ruined by VAR. Could you imagine going one up in the 94th minute at home to Chelsea only to be told 4 minutes later that Mbuemo was 3 millimetres offside. No thank you. No VAR in the Championship!!!!
 

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my worse game was the YEOVIL Game , maybe losing to Doncaster the way we did , i think we could all taste the Championship , that hurt for a long time , Losing to Fulham was big/massive game, but knowing we are still one of the top teams in the Championship makes me proud. i love the Championship , best league in the world ! :owusu:
 

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It hurt more that we didn't show what we were capable of really. We've been fantastic for the majority of the season and to get to the play off final and just not get going was really frustrating..
 

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Now I have had time to think about it the answer is no
That said do think it would have been a much different story if Atkinson had the balls to do the right thing and show Reed a red card for the assault on Norgaard.
Still it will be a good laugh watching them get pasted most weeks as they drop back down again and Parker gets the smirk wiped off his ugly mug good and proper
 

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No... what final? Great new ground to look forward to plus great future ahead. Come on you Bees
 
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Biggest? Now you're talking. Yes, that probably was our biggest game (so far ;))

but I felt far lower when
Notts County equalised in 90+6 to effectively send us down (after one season in the second tier)
Bristol City then thumped us 4-1 in a must win game to actually send us down
Bristol Rovers beating us on the last day of the season to put us down to the 4th tier
Losing to Non-League teams in the FA Cup (especially Kingstonian at home)
THAT game against Doncaster Rovers (I think that was the worst I've ever felt leaving a football ground)
How the hell can you say losing to a non league team in the FA Cup is worse than losing to Fulham in a Championship playoff final. Unbelievable.
 

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Not really, Fulham fans generally are OK and a decent bunch like us. I think its more of a friendly hatred, unlike QPR.

Now imagine if it was Leeds......
 

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It hurt more that we didn't show what we were capable of really. We've been fantastic for the majority of the season and to get to the play off final and just not get going was really frustrating..
Yes, this is probably the biggest issue for me. Lots of people messaging me after the game - probably the first time they've seen the Bees - saying we were never in it, and knowing that they've just not seen how well we really can play.
 

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Nah. As others have said it would have made a difference if we were all at the game and we could see them giving it the biggun. Yes they have done some social media wumming as expected but by no means as bad as defeat to Leeds or Forest would have been. Think they know it might not be long till we meet again.
 

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No. I think it's a blessing. The whole season we were a top two automatic promotion club for a few minutes. I want us to go up as a premier team before we get to the premier league. When we get there we must stay.
 

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If we have to miss out after finishing 3rd, I'd rather lose to a 4th place team who were only a point behind than on penalties to the lowest placed team - so Huddersfield was my worst
 

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If we have to miss out after finishing 3rd, I'd rather lose to a 4th place team who were only a point behind than on penalties to the lowest placed team - so Huddersfield was my worst
Not even sure they were a point behind. Without checking, they finished on the same points. Another reason why the hubris in the run-up to the final was ridiculous.
 

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Nope. I'd have hated losing to long-ball, long-throw, lump it in the corner and fall over for a set piece Cardiff. At least Fulham play the right way and as others have said their fans are generally a decent bunch.

One question I've been pondering (possibly this is deluded I accept) is which of us is now more looking forward to next season?

We have a brand new ground, will hopefully hold on to most of our team or sign exciting replacements and would hope to win a fair number of games in a fun, competitive Championship next year.

Fulham have a major rebuilding job just to put a squad together in three weeks (due to their loans) and then will probably face a grim battle to stay up. I'm not convinced that many of their permanent players are nailed on Prem quality aside from Mitrovic and Cairney. I'm sure Fulham would argue Man City and Liverpool rolling into town beats Wycombe hands down and that's fair but I'm not as devastated by the final loss as I thought I would be.
 

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How the hell can you say losing to a non league team in the FA Cup is worse than losing to Fulham in a Championship playoff final. Unbelievable.
Believable. I was gutted and embarrassed losing at home to a team God know how many tiers below us. On Tuesday, we lost in extra time to a team that we were only separated by Goal Difference after 46 games. Frustrating, yes. Disappointing, yes. But I feel nothing but pride in this team. We finished 23rd in the English pyramid (our best for over 70 years). We played the best football I've ever witnessed from a Bees side. I am able to still feel positive because I can see he club still progressing, growing and moving in an upward trajectory.

My point is Beast, there have been plenty of moments/games where I've left thinking WTF. or even simply F. We're heading to Div 4, Non-League or even non-existence!!! Not now.
 

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This will not be popular with the "Blue Skies Philosophy" brigade, but we have to face up to the situation that rather than losing we in effect refused to accept the crown on three occasions. Those that for ever reason failed to perform on the day will no doubt leave pledging eternal devotion and gratitude to Brentford( I do not really blame them). Pity their gratitude and devotion does ny have the same depth as those that have been left devastated.
 

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This will not be popular with the "Blue Skies Philosophy" brigade, but we have to face up to the situation that rather than losing we in effect refused to accept the crown on three occasions. Those that for ever reason failed to perform on the day will no doubt leave pledging eternal devotion and gratitude to Brentford( I do not really blame them). Pity their gratitude and devotion does ny have the same depth as those that have been left devastated.
we finished in our highest position for 70 years
 

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Yes but we threw away the chance to finish higher. We should be in Premier League should not of had to go to the play offs. Does nobody get it ?
you clearly don't
 

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At least our games next season wont be ruined by VAR. Could you imagine going one up in the 94th minute at home to Chelsea only to be told 4 minutes later that Mbuemo was 3 millimetres offside. No thank you. No VAR in the Championship!!!!
But on the other hand we would have had 2 penalties against stoke, would have beaten Swansea away and Fulham would have had 8 men before they scored.
 

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This will not be popular with the "Blue Skies Philosophy" brigade, but we have to face up to the situation that rather than losing we in effect refused to accept the crown on three occasions. Those that for ever reason failed to perform on the day will no doubt leave pledging eternal devotion and gratitude to Brentford( I do not really blame them). Pity their gratitude and devotion does ny have the same depth as those that have been left devastated.
Its done, get over it. Its part of being a football supporter, especially where brentford are concerned. We all know we missed several chances, banging on about it isnt going to get us another chance. If the players clearly didnt try then it would be a different story but they gave their all, put in so much effort to close in on the top 2 and gave us all a reason to dream. What are you hoping to get by posting these negative vibes
 

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you clearly don't
I think I am one of the few who do get it. I really do not understand the thinking of those who think that although we should have finished second and threw it away we should be glad that we finished third and then lost.
Possibly that sort of thinking is our problem. And just a reminder that I have been through the absolute lows of Brentford and have remained loyal.
 

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I think I am one of the few who do get it. I really do not understand the thinking of those who think that although we should have finished second and threw it away we should be glad that we finished third and then lost.
Possibly that sort of thinking is our problem. And just a reminder that I have been through the absolute lows of Brentford and have remained loyal.
No one is saying they are glad.
And a lot of us have stayed loyal.
You are barking up the wrong tree mate
 

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I have got over this now, any chants will come down to who sings the loudest and Fulham only have happy clappers so I didn’t think we have much to worry about.

We can’t dish out sh*t to leyton orient and buy their best player and sing about Leeds falling apart and then grizzle when we get a bit back.

Trust me, we they don’t really care about us that much.
 

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I think I am one of the few who do get it. I really do not understand the thinking of those who think that although we should have finished second and threw it away we should be glad that we finished third and then lost.
Possibly that sort of thinking is our problem. And just a reminder that I have been through the absolute lows of Brentford and have remained loyal.
We blew it, that's the cold truth. We were better than WBA, better than Fulham and we blew it. No excuses. But we can't forget how miraculous it was to be there in the first place or what a great time it is to be a Brentford fan.
 

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