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When we purchased season ticket we were told that entry would be given access to this facility after the game which is not being given as people are told by the stewards that once you leave the ground re entry was not allowed .can someone please tell me that there has been a change in procedure and we haven’t been told .friends are coming from north stand and can’t get entry ????
 

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When we purchased season ticket we were told that entry would be given access to this facility after the game which is not being given as people are told by the stewards that once you leave the ground re entry was not allowed .can someone please tell me that there has been a change in procedure and we haven’t been told .friends are coming from north stand and can’t get entry ????
I wouldn’t mind getting access to the North stand so that I can get my son something to eat as there’s fack all in the South stand.
 

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When we purchased season ticket we were told that entry would be given access to this facility after the game which is not being given as people are told by the stewards that once you leave the ground re entry was not allowed .can someone please tell me that there has been a change in procedure and we haven’t been told .friends are coming from north stand and can’t get entry ????

I did it after the West Ham game and we had to sweet talk the stewards to let me in.

Spoke to JV about it and he basically said that it would be so full on League matches that you won't be able to get in anyway.

I will raise it though as there is no reason why they can't count people in and out.
 
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I did it after the West Ham game and we had to sweet talk the stewards to let me in.

Spoke to JV about it and he basically said that it would be so full on League matches that you won't be able to get in anyway.

I will raise it though as there is no reason why they can't count people in and out.
@hobbsy, thank you for raising this on behalf of us all. (JV response seemed inappropriately dismissive ?). Could you consider whether you could also raise whether they might introduce a feedback system to enable us to rate the various food offerings (and make suggestions). Sounds like the samosas are fab, but eg the £5 North Stand Chicken Burger is basically inedible, and should not be being sold by a reputable club. There needs to be some serious quality control introduced (In my view).
 

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I saw lots of friends in The Dug Out bar almost immediately after the game who were admitted from other stands.
 

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I did it after the West Ham game and we had to sweet talk the stewards to let me in.

Spoke to JV about it and he basically said that it would be so full on League matches that you won't be able to get in anyway.

I will raise it though as there is no reason why they can't count people in and out.

Quite dismissive if you ask me.

Hes not covering himself in glory im afraid.

Hes steadily making himself as popular as Devlin was.
 

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Sorry in response to Isleworth bee.

Meet the man and I suspect you’d feel differently my friend, I like him and find him very honest on the couple of occasions I’ve had reasons to deal with him. He responded to constructive feedback I sent him quickly and professionally with a considered and plausible answer as well as a commitment to address the issues raised.

he’s obviously a real fan that comes across when you meet him in the person and I think if he was 100% honest and wanted to find excuses he’d be entitled to claim it was the legacy of Devlin and Kurt and he’s having to fix a mess but in fairness to me he’s always come across as professional and assumed accountability.

Time will tell and we’ll see but I don’t think he’s had it easy as know the ticket office was hit by track and trace and a lot of people had to self isolate at a time when we didn’t need that happening and unlike other companies no contingency as everything was so new and the ticket system being what it was!

I would just say cut him some slack for now and judge him later in the season and not lay the ticketing fiasco at his door although it’s definitely his problem to quickly fix?
 

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When we purchased season ticket we were told that entry would be given access to this facility after the game which is not being given as people are told by the stewards that once you leave the ground re entry was not allowed .can someone please tell me that there has been a change in procedure and we haven’t been told .friends are coming from north stand and can’t get entry ????
There were plenty of fans you know in the bar after the game who sit in the North Stand so what are you on about?
 

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I did it after the West Ham game and we had to sweet talk the stewards to let me in.

Spoke to JV about it and he basically said that it would be so full on League matches that you won't be able to get in anyway.

I will raise it though as there is no reason why they can't count people in and out.
Doesn’t necessarily work if you sit in the dugout but remain there for a few minutes after the match eg to point out helpfully to Arteta that “they’re going down with the Palace”
 
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@hobbsy, thank you for raising this on behalf of us all. (JV response seemed inappropriately dismissive ?). Could you consider whether you could also raise whether they might introduce a feedback system to enable us to rate the various food offerings (and make suggestions). Sounds like the samosas are fab, but eg the £5 North Stand Chicken Burger is basically inedible, and should not be being sold by a reputable club. There needs to be some serious quality control introduced (In my view).
just copy the palace menu and sorted :D burgers chips, pies
 

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Sorry in response to Isleworth bee.

Meet the man and I suspect you’d feel differently my friend, I like him and find him very honest on the couple of occasions I’ve had reasons to deal with him. He responded to constructive feedback I sent him quickly and professionally with a considered and plausible answer as well as a commitment to address the issues raised.

he’s obviously a real fan that comes across when you meet him in the person and I think if he was 100% honest and wanted to find excuses he’d be entitled to claim it was the legacy of Devlin and Kurt and he’s having to fix a mess but in fairness to me he’s always come across as professional and assumed accountability.

Time will tell and we’ll see but I don’t think he’s had it easy as know the ticket office was hit by track and trace and a lot of people had to self isolate at a time when we didn’t need that happening and unlike other companies no contingency as everything was so new and the ticket system being what it was!

I would just say cut him some slack for now and judge him later in the season and not lay the ticketing fiasco at his door although it’s definitely his problem to quickly fix?

:sorted: No arguments here.

Im just not that impressed with how we are run off the pitch.

Yes he has had to deal with past issues that are hanging around like a bad smell.

One of my main issues is its not like this is all new to us? Especially with the new ground and ticketing.

Does come across as a nice individual though. Hope he gets it all sorted.
 

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When we purchased season ticket we were told that entry would be given access to this facility after the game which is not being given as people are told by the stewards that once you leave the ground re entry was not allowed .can someone please tell me that there has been a change in procedure and we haven’t been told .friends are coming from north stand and can’t get entry ????

There wasn’t any problem getting in on Friday apart from having to wait for people to leave first. I hadn’t gone very early, probably 10-15 mins after leaving West Stand after the end of the lap of honour and Hey Jude, but got inside to wait for the dugout to clear of those going home. The lad I was chatting to in the queue wasn’t even an ST and had just tailgated in when the guy in front was showing his ST. So it was hardly a case of officious guards barking “Fahrschein bitte!”

They did start to hold a queue outside a bit later. I stayed for a pint and samosas and it didn’t fill out to be too busy to find a seat so I don’t know whether that was because they were turning people away or just that there wasn’t a big queue.

Talking to the supervisor going in it sounds like there is another entry they might open up in future which would allow people to get in without battling those leaving but they wanted to see how it worked with a single entrance/exit. I was pleasantly surprised at it not being too hard to get in but it might be a different matter for an earlier kick off. I can imagine it would be a brilliant place to watch the results and 5.30 kick off game after our matches.
 
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Bill Benn ask legs he is frothing to be singled out on two occasions Valencia and arsenal where not even half capacity .so John varney if you read this I challenge you to come down to the dug out bar to see for yourself stop fobbing us of with with bullshit ps while I’m at it where’s my care ticket lost in the crowd also
 

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:sorted: No arguments here.

Im just not that impressed with how we are run off the pitch.

Yes he has had to deal with past issues that are hanging around like a bad smell.

One of my main issues is its not like this is all new to us? Especially with the new ground and ticketing.

Does come across as a nice individual though. Hope he gets it all sorted.
Mate, I’m of the mind we are Premier League on the pitch as was clear to see on Friday but we’re non league in many areas off it.
It’s been going on for years and many of us have become accustomed as “It’s Brentford innit” but that doesn’t mean it should be accepted or tolerated.
I have seen plenty of great stuff that reflects brilliantly on the club with the comms and PR (Woody goal celebration for example) but some of the processes and specifically the ticketing process is atrocious and in many cases a dreadful customer experience.
As I said before I trust JV is on it and addressing but it is a hell of a legacy he inherited by all accounts.
 

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Bill Benn ask legs he is frothing to be singled out on two occasions Valencia and arsenal where not even half capacity .so John varney if you read this I challenge you to come down to the dug out bar to see for yourself stop fobbing us of with with bullshit ps while I’m at it where’s my care ticket lost in the crowd also
JV was in the bar and lots of people gave him feedback and he wasn’t hiding
 

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A temporary haunt may have been put into place on new entrants, as a person collapsed coming down the stairs on Friday and was in need of first aid. Don’t know anymore as we were encouraged to keep moving towards the exit trying to avoid make any situation worse.
 

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Bill Benn ask legs he is frothing to be singled out on two occasions Valencia and arsenal where not even half capacity .so John varney if you read this I challenge you to come down to the dug out bar to see for yourself stop fobbing us of with with bullshit ps while I’m at it where’s my care ticket lost in the crowd also
Jon Varney was in the dugout bar before kick off; I introduced myself to him and he seemed relieved that I wasn’t having a pop at him about anything!!!
 
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Bill Benn ask legs he is frothing to be singled out on two occasions Valencia and arsenal where not even half capacity .so John varney if you read this I challenge you to come down to the dug out bar to see for yourself stop fobbing us of with with bullshit ps while I’m at it where’s my care ticket lost in the crowd also
JV was in the bar you should have approached him and left Ian Wright alone
 

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It was quicker and easier getting in to the dugout than getting into the Griffin after a win at GP in front of 8000 fans. And the Peroni was cheaper (£6 in dugout I think, £6.20 when I went on to the Griffin an hour later). While it looks quite industrial the lighting is nice and makes it feel quite warm and inviting.

They’re never going to fit in all STs but I’d expect in the future it’ll be easy to work out if the queue is worth joining or it’d be better to go on somewhere else. I was also surprised that the Express wasn’t too heaving as I passed. An advantage of having other large pubs like One over the Ait near and lots also heading back to old haunts in Brentford. Though as I said, might well be different at 5pm rather than 10pm when non-local fans will need to head off to catch late trains soon after the end.
 

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I went in there after the game on Friday night, all quite painless, we had to wait for people leaving before we were allowed entry but that was no problem
 
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I did it after the West Ham game and we had to sweet talk the stewards to let me in.

Spoke to JV about it and he basically said that it would be so full on League matches that you won't be able to get in anyway.

I will raise it though as there is no reason why they can't count people in and out.
I read that the club were happy to give entry to fans as long as the dugout was not full. If it was full then you could not come in. But you can always take my place, asi spent most of my time looking for somewhere to park, an effing nightmare that was Friday evening. I then went into the dugout with my ticket which i had put in my wallet, only to be told where’s your lanyard sir, oh i prefer it in my wallet i said. Can you put it round your neck she said. I said do you know what i have had so much hassle getting here i wish i had never come. After the match i walked. Up to her and said i’m glad i came in the end. Food was the last thing on my mind as was the dugout bars, for other than that what a special evening that was.
 

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I don't get the lanyards either, they might be a temporary thing as for access to some seats one has to leave the dugout because of the red zone. On the way back in they can decide who can come in by whom is wearing a lanyard. However I was still asked to show my ticket - so what's the point of the lanyard exactly?
 
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I read that the club were happy to give entry to fans as long as the dugout was not full. If it was full then you could not come in. But you can always take my place, asi spent most of my time looking for somewhere to park, an effing nightmare that was Friday evening. I then went into the dugout with my ticket which i had put in my wallet, only to be told where’s your lanyard sir, oh i prefer it in my wallet i said. Can you put it round your neck she said. I said do you know what i have had so much hassle getting here i wish i had never come. After the match i walked. Up to her and said i’m glad i came in the end. Food was the last thing on my mind as was the dugout bars, for other than that what a special evening that was.
As you’re coming from the West it’s worth trying Brentford station to park if you can get there early. Free on Saturdays and only £2 on Friday evening. I used to be able to get a space most games at GP if I got there by about 1, might be easier now (except for me giving it away on here!). I’ve also regularly parked at Topps Tiles on Ealing Road (v handy for the walk to N, S and W stands) without them ticketing but they might be more savvy about that now we’re PL.
 

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We noticed the lanyards were different colours, so assumed that was significant in terms of where you could access.
 

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I went in there after the game on Friday night, all quite painless, we had to wait for people leaving before we were allowed entry but that was no problem
My son and I took some time to get there after exiting Block N123 in the North Stand. Once we got there, we joined the queue waiting to be allowed in after those inside exited the stadium. Our seas tickets were checked and we got in easily. Once inside, it was easy to get served and find a place to sit down.

The bigger problem on Friday was getting through the crowds coming the other way (on their way to the station). It seems to me that it would surely help to have some form of segregation so that fans exiting from the North and West Stands would be on one side of a temporary barrier and those from the South Stand heading towards the station would be on the other side. I didn’t time it but I’d guess it took us over 15 minutes from exiting the North Stand to reach the Dugout entrance.
 

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As you’re coming from the West it’s worth trying Brentford station to park if you can get there early. Free on Saturdays and only £2 on Friday evening. I used to be able to get a space most games at GP if I got there by about 1, might be easier now (except for me giving it away on here!). I’ve also regularly parked at Topps Tiles on Ealing Road (v handy for the walk to N, S and W stands) without them ticketing but they might be more savvy about that now we’re PL.
Thanks so much for your help, there always seem a problem when you have to drive as you probably know, i travelled down on the m4 , only to read m4 closed junt5/6 after 8pm on 13th/14/ and 15th. Which meant coming home on the m3 a303 no probs but a stain on the eyes as it is so dark. Any parking help would be so much appreaciated.
 
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Thanks so much for your help, there always seem a problem when you have to drive as you probably know, i travelled down on the m4 , only to read m4 closed junt5/6 after 8pm on 13th/14/ and 15th. Which meant coming home on the m3 a303 no probs but a stain on the eyes as it is so dark. Any parking help would be so much appreaciated.
No worries. I drove down from Leeds so feel your pain. I was staying overnight and thought I had the parking sorted at the Holiday Inn (v reasonable £60 for the night, less reasonable £14 parking). Unfortunately they had a wedding on and their car park was full so after 5 hours in the car (blighters around Sheffield and Nottingham seem to knock off very early on a Friday!) I had to go and find a walkable alternative.

If you’re forced onto the M3 route it might be worth parking at Richmond station which is pretty big but not cheap. 65 bus to the ground and back would probably get you on the road well after the match.
 
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My son and I took some time to get there after exiting Block N123 in the North Stand. Once we got there, we joined the queue waiting to be allowed in after those inside exited the stadium. Our seas tickets were checked and we got in easily. Once inside, it was easy to get served and find a place to sit down.

The bigger problem on Friday was getting through the crowds coming the other way (on their way to the station). It seems to me that it would surely help to have some form of segregation so that fans exiting from the North and West Stands would be on one side of a temporary barrier and those from the South Stand heading towards the station would be on the other side. I didn’t time it but I’d guess it took us over 15 minutes from exiting the North Stand to reach the Dugout entrance.
it was very busy walking back down lionel road south after, a bit messy as there seemed to be 3 queues, those going to kew bridge station, those wanting to leave via LRS and those walking the other way to leave via LRN. A couple of disabled people were struggling with how busy it was. Although not sure it was helped by the fire engine that was at the top of the road by kew bridge station
 
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We got in to The Dugout Bar after the game and we sit in The North Stand.
 
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We noticed the lanyards were different colours, so assumed that was significant in terms of where you could access.
I noticed red, blue, black and possibly a white one too.

im guessing it’s to help the stewards from a distance know if people are in the correct area during the match
 

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it was very busy walking back down lionel road south after, a bit messy as there seemed to be 3 queues, those going to kew bridge station, those wanting to leave via LRS and those walking the other way to leave via LRN. A couple of disabled people were struggling with how busy it was. Although not sure it was helped by the fire engine that was at the top of the road by kew bridge station
It was messy and I wondered whether people queueing at the small club shop added to it as did the fire engine (anyone know why it was called?). I also saw a number of people tripping on the kerb which was pretty invisible considering it was dark and the mass of bodies gave little chance of seeing it there.
 

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it was very busy walking back down lionel road south after, a bit messy as there seemed to be 3 queues, those going to kew bridge station, those wanting to leave via LRS and those walking the other way to leave via LRN. A couple of disabled people were struggling with how busy it was. Although not sure it was helped by the fire engine that was at the top of the road by kew bridge station
That fire engine was probably there because one of the fire alarms triggered. We went to use a lift in the South stand and they were all stopped by the alarm.
 

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it was very busy walking back down lionel road south after, a bit messy as there seemed to be 3 queues, those going to kew bridge station, those wanting to leave via LRS and those walking the other way to leave via LRN. A couple of disabled people were struggling with how busy it was. Although not sure it was helped by the fire engine that was at the top of the road by kew bridge station
Yes, no idea why that had to park there...
 

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It was messy and I wondered whether people queueing at the small club shop added to it as did the fire engine (anyone know why it was called?). I also saw a number of people tripping on the kerb which was pretty invisible considering it was dark and the mass of bodies gave little chance of seeing it there.
Yeah, the lack of lighting needs to be addressed
 

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Am I right in assuming that we were unable to stage a proper test event because of the Covid locknown ? If so then Friday's game could be an ideal situation to use the game as one. Clearly there are going to be lots of teething problems that are only just coming to light and the on going building works are not making access any easier at the moment. I was due to meet up with a mate in the Cricketers on Kew Green. He was in the West stand next to the North but his block all got shepherded out on to the A4 with no way back and ended up in the New Inn.
 

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It was messy and I wondered whether people queueing at the small club shop added to it as did the fire engine (anyone know why it was called?). I also saw a number of people tripping on the kerb which was pretty invisible considering it was dark and the mass of bodies gave little chance of seeing it there.
Yep, definitely some lighting required along there. Dare say there are some street lamps or such like to be added once the flats are completed or when the scaffold is struck but probably needs something temporary in the interim as I also saw at 2 people almost go arse over t*t too.
 
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It was messy and I wondered whether people queueing at the small club shop added to it as did the fire engine (anyone know why it was called?). I also saw a number of people tripping on the kerb which was pretty invisible considering it was dark and the mass of bodies gave little chance of seeing it there.
someone was stuck in a lift. Also saw others have a problem with the kerb, as you say it was dark, no real lighting. only the blue light coming off the fire engine.
 

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No choice of wine ? Where's the Shiraz, Malbec, Pinot Noir, Sauvingon Blanc, etc :nono:
They're grapes, old chap, from which one's vineyard makes wine...
 
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It was quicker and easier getting in to the dugout than getting into the Griffin after a win at GP in front of 8000 fans. And the Peroni was cheaper (£6 in dugout I think, £6.20 when I went on to the Griffin an hour later). While it looks quite industrial the lighting is nice and makes it feel quite warm and inviting.

They’re never going to fit in all STs but I’d expect in the future it’ll be easy to work out if the queue is worth joining or it’d be better to go on somewhere else. I was also surprised that the Express wasn’t too heaving as I passed. An advantage of having other large pubs like One over the Ait near and lots also heading back to old haunts in Brentford. Though as I said, might well be different at 5pm rather than 10pm when non-local fans will need to head off to catch late trains soon after the end.
Thanks for the update looks really busy ;out which proves it wasn’t that bust don’t you agree
 
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