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It really is odd - what exactly are the England management basing his selection on as he had barely played for the B team recently let alone any first team action?
 

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It really is odd - what exactly are the England management basing his selection on as he had barely played for the B team recently let alone any first team action?
The recent performances for England U20’s
 

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It does seem very strange that England appear to see something in him that we don’t.
I may be wrong but I don’t think he’s ever played for us in anything other than B team games. No friendlies even. So most people probably haven’t seen him at all. His only experiences of playing in front of a crowd must have been for England!
 

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Not sure his age group play in front of too many. Hasn’t someone ‘ITK’ recently posted that he had an application issue?
 

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Also called up for England U-21 now, which is odd considering how little he plays for anyone.
It just proves the nepotism within the FA coaching system once players make it to a youth level international squad. I don’t think there’s a cat in hell’s chance of him playing a first team game for us.
 

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It just shows the lack of English players getting an opportunity at the highest level wonder how many prem teams actually have young English players
 

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It just proves the nepotism within the FA coaching system once players make it to a youth level international squad. I don’t think there’s a cat in hell’s chance of him playing a first team game for us.
Shame that Southgate operates in the opposite fashion with a 'pin the tail on the donkey' approach to selecting a senior squad.

Tyrone Mings!!!!
 

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Shame that Southgate operates in the opposite fashion with a 'pin the tail on the donkey' approach to selecting a senior squad.

Tyrone Mings!!!!
Mings has done well for Villa. In fact arguably the reason they went up was simply they signed him and Grealish came back from injury. They were massively better after that.
How many chances has John Stones had to show his worth and blown many of them?
Big, tall, strong, not slow, can play the ball......might turn out to be great for us. Stranger things have happened.
 

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On loan to Viborg
 
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Scotland was 5pm I thought?

Europe, midnight?
 

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Scotland was 5pm I thought?

Europe, midnight?
Each association varies slightly, some were 31 Aug, many, like Scotland, today but, whereas theirs was midnight, France is 23h, Germany 17h, Italy 19h...
 

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I heard that Balcombe absolutely hates the new coach, with a passion.

So no surprise.
 

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I heard that Balcombe absolutely hates the new coach, with a passion.

So no surprise.
I get that but is this club just any port in a storm or is it going to develop him into a keeper ready to challenge for a Premier League place anytime soon?
 

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Agreed....if it turns out he's the bad one we may be in trouble. Bentley's form dip last year was alarming after he came in, he seemed to have gotten rid of the unnecessary clangers before that.

Raya knew him already, so you'd assume they get on, and Patrick's development seems to have shot up also (although that may have happened anyway). It could go either way on this one but I started to get suspicions shortly after he started posting those 'look at how good my sessions are' videos, that made it more about him then about anything else.
 

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Agreed....if it turns out he's the bad one we may be in trouble. Bentley's form dip last year was alarming after he came in, he seemed to have gotten rid of the unnecessary clangers before that.

Raya knew him already, so you'd assume they get on, and Patrick's development seems to have shot up also (although that may have happened anyway). It could go either way on this one but I started to get suspicions shortly after he started posting those 'look at how good my sessions are' videos, that made it more about him then about anything else.
Wasn't there also lots of things going on with DB away from football?
 

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Strange move for him seems to me. Second division of the Danish league must be no higher than conference level. I know we have contacts out there but why go all that way for that level of experience. Unless he wants/ needs a different environment maybe.

May be wrong but for an England under 21 player you would expect a loan to a more competitive league.
 

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A club challenging for promotion is a good move in any league, with a positive environment. I’d guess our coaches know exactly what sort of staff they have to support him, too.
 

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I watched them carefully warming up before three recent games and Daniels seemed as engaged and happy as the other two. But who knows?
For fear of upsetting Rebus (and it will :D) the references on here of keepers being unhappy with the coach has always come from the one source, albeit it one that has connections at the training ground.
 

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Sure he wouldn’t if he was starting...
That's footballers for you.

albeit it one that has connections at the training ground.
Yes, they are terrible. ;) From what I understand now he's got his Spanish signing in, GK coach mood has improved but he's still a bit of a prat. Of course, you can choose to believe the pravda you're told.
 
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That's footballers for you.



Yes, they are terrible. ;) From what I understand now he's got his Spanish signing in, GK coach mood has improved but he's still a bit of a prat. Of course, you can choose to believe the pravda you're told.
I've never been told anything about the mood of the goalkeepers and coach. :shrug:
 
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The one slightly jarring moment was during one of the interminable "injury" breaks in play at Charlton when the players milled around for a drink Raya stayed in his goal but was fairly imperiously summoned to the touchline by the coach for a one-to-one chat but he reacted immediately and trotted off the pitch without any sign of concern.
 

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I assumed Daniels had the ‘grumps’ last season because everyone could see he was playing better than Bentley...

Balcombe needs to enjoy the Danish diversion, experience the culture etc, etc. Might not add to his England caps in the next season, but his possible overall development could far outweigh that.
 

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For fear of upsetting Rebus (and it will :D) the references on here of keepers being unhappy with the coach has always come from the one source, albeit it one that has connections at the training ground.
It's Rebus and worringly now Nana though...

Bentley did have his off field personal problems as well, and I don't know the exact timings of that, but his errors came early (Stoke, though also Mepham's fault) and lasted pretty late. Thomas Frank seemed to be very positive about Ikana in one of his quotes previously, but it does seem a little odd that as a club who are very careful about hiring 'good man management, good with people' first and foremost that they'd hire a bit of an explosive character here...

Doing a bit of research, he seems quite happy taking the credit for any of Daniel Bentley's good saves...

 

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I watched them carefully warming up before three recent games and Daniels seemed as engaged and happy as the other two. But who knows?
So have I; especially so last Saturday; I can't personally recall watching three goalkeepers warm up 45 minutes before KO when there is just the one playing and the other on the bench; good that PG is with them and all four's body language doesn't suggest anything other than a tight unit, at least in public.
 

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So have I; especially so last Saturday; I can't personally recall watching three goalkeepers warm up 45 minutes before KO when there is just the one playing and the other on the bench; good that PG is with them and all four's body language doesn't suggest anything other than a tight unit, at least in public.
Ah, the goalkeeper's union!
 

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Been training with the full England squad apparently
If true, then we really need to nurture this lad, not think of getting rid of (if that is the case)....
Not saying by training with the full squad means he is the bees knees, but he must be showing good signs that he is the one training with the squad over others in the age groups.
 

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If true, then we really need to nurture this lad, not think of getting rid of (if that is the case)....
Not saying by training with the full squad means he is the bees knees, but he must be showing good signs that he is the one training with the squad over others in the age groups.
It's strange though since he never seems to play for the England under 21's, just appear in the squad (although admittedly 19) and he doesn't seem highly rated at Brentford, unless I'm reading the situation wrong.
 

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It's strange though since he never seems to play for the England under 21's, just appear in the squad (although admittedly 19) and he doesn't seem highly rated at Brentford, unless I'm reading the situation wrong.
That is my thinking.

Until now, he has been at National League level with Boreham Wood. He has seemingly stepped up by going to Viborg FF. They may be in the "Championship" of the Danish football, but they seem to be similar to Norwich, who yo-yo between the two leagues.
 

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he doesn't seem highly rated at Brentford
I'm not sure there's any basis for that. He's been nurtured through a number of injuries and we have a lot of 'keepers in the pipeline. Given the options at BFC are playing in the B Team or sitting on the bench in the first team, getting him out on loan in the right environment is probably the best thing for his development. He's coming up to 20 and seems highly rated all round; he's generally been in an older-age England squad in the last few years. Keeping him on the back burner and developing his career without undue pressure seems good management.
 

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