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Wouldn‘t even make the bench if we had a Baptiste and Norgaard fit. Chance after chance to impress and never takes them.
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North Northants Bee
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Another match in which he spent more time on the floor than actually contributing something positive. I just don’t understand the guy, Canos puts so much effort in but just doesn’t have the end product....this guy has talent but I think his attitude sucks a bit and I think refs have figured him out. I would happily drive him back to Denmark as I’m not sure what his role is.
I really can’t see him getting a new contract. What has he done to deserve one
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Would still be nice if he did something though, wouldn’t it?
He isn’t a scape goat, if you regularly don’t perform you will be criticised. Okay players might have off games but performances in other games make up for it. He hasn’t done anything to deserve to be in our starting 11.
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Exactly if we had all six midfielders fit it would be one of two from Norgaard and vitaly with former playing when we’ve possible. One of two from Jensen and Marcondes with former getting nod most times and one of two from da Silva and Baptiste , With former getting nod most times . Problem is injuries have bitten sooner than would have planned for. With Baptiste our for a while I see us bringing in another midfield player in January and maybe going back in for that arsenal player balgouin? If he still hasn’t signed a new contract .
If you mean set up a goal then only Jensen did from the midfield 3 tonight. I just don't expect amazing attacking moments if he's not in the front 3 and I think he's tidy enough to be in rotation for our midfield 3 without getting the stick he gets.
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I thought he'd been offered one recently?
There were rumours but nothing announced by the club yet.
Exactly. In the same situation in previous years we've been stuck with Josh MC, Lewis McLeod, KK, Mokotjo, etc playing significant minutes.
We've addressed our real problem which was lack of backup to Christian, it's just unfortunate he got injured at the same time the backup arrived
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I don’t mean setting up a goal, no. I mean not hiding. Not constantly falling over. Contributing to us keeping the ball. Being creative for a creative midfielder. All should be possible. But never happen.
I’m not sure if you’re saying he should be part of our front 3? If you are, I think he’s proven a number of times he can’t play in any of those 3 positions....which leads us back to the problem we’ve always had with him - he doesn’t fit in to our system or style of play. A move back to Denmark awaits.
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watching a different game to me.......he did nothing apart from fall over and unecessary fouls.......what did i miss ???
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Yep, too peripheral, not quick enough, not good enough with the ball, and too much diving - quite amazed we haven't beaten that out of him. But yep, I've had enough of him now - I'll always support our players, but he needs upgrading, asap.
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Not impactful enough.
Would you please stop using the word scapegoat, with the suggestion that poor old Emiliano is being picked on unfairly. A “scapegoat” is someone blamed for the wrongdoings, mistakes, or faults of others. Emiliano is, perfectly reasonably, being called to account for his own failings: falling over at the slightest breath of wind, giving away the ball and fouls, and generally wasting a shirt. Anyone can have a poor run of form but the diving is just pathetic.
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We dont need Balgouin we have Forss and Toney we need a winger and a midfielder. Canos, Ghoddas and Marcondes are not good enough for this level. Fosu doesnt seem to be rated by TF so thats 4 players plus the 2 Mads injured and CN and Pontus injuries we are running short. Time for Forss and Toney to be start.
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Why on earth would you give him a new contract. He has not done nearly enough to merit one. The odd flash of brilliance but no consistency or regular impact plus an inability to do the unseen but important parts of the game in terms of pressing and tackling. He does not hide but there is so little end result from his work which can be summed up with a great goal at West Brom and a perfect cross v Coventry. Is that enough?
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I wonder if we might see the young Icelandic winger in the first team squad fairly soon?
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For you to slate him Mr Tree, he's got to be really bad.
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....in scottish terms....he's just a big jessie......i was done with him at the den a couple of seasons back....FCM was his rehab.....didnt work BFC....get rid.
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I actually think he has worked pretty hard last few games he has started but his passing and touch is often woeful. It is difficult not to conclude that he simply is not good enough.
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I try to be positive. It was clear he wouldn't be a winger or a striker for us, but I said "give him a chance, reckon he could do a job in midfield". And he does actually win the ball back high up sometimes, and he's got some good instincts (some nice passes, good runs).But too often, just doesn't do enough.
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Yeah I would prefer to give that lad a go...he can’t do any worse and also there sounds like a future with BFC for him
As TF would say...100%. The simply fact is he just isn't at the level to be playing in this team. He's had plenty of opportunities and can't / won't take them. Thomas Frank really is letting the rest of the players down by continuing to pick him. Wake up Thomas...
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I thought he was fine first half tbh, one of our more positive players.. Marcondes strength is his movement off the ball, pulling defenders about, finding space inbetween defence and midfield and getting into the 6 yard box. Ghoddos so far looks to do similar but mostly outside the box. Thought they both did reasonably well first half in that respect but we didn't get the ball to them enough and in the second half we just couldn't get out of our defensive third at all. That didn't really change once they went off, it was a generally poor day all round. When JDS is leaving the ball behind and putting a 5 yard pass out then you know it's not your day..
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Totally disagree it was like playing with 9 with Ghoddas and Marcondes. Even when we to Ghoddas off we bought Canos who even worse. Feel really sorry for Fosu, but it looks like our manager doesnt rate you. I would pick you above the 3 mentioned above. Please 2 signing in the window. A Top Winger plus a decent player to keep Jenson on his toes. I dont mind if a couple need to go out.
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It wasn't anything like playing with 9.. We just couldn't get control of the ball in our defensive third, or get it forward quick enough. When we did we caused them lots of trouble but Goode's nervous start I think affected us massively and we were ponderous in possession playing out from the back. Ghoddos, Marcondes and Toney were making excellent runs into space but we couldn't or wouldn't pick them out quick enough, we just got sucked back into our own penalty area. Expected us to press higher second half but a few poor passes from the off and we were on the back foot again.
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I'm not sure there was a noticeable improvement in performance when he went off... our ability to get forward declined significantly.
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It's a bit unfair to defend Emiliano by reference to Ghoddos (imo).
If Ghoddos hasn't torn up any trees yet, he at least has a valid excuse (new guy, both BFC and EFL)
If Ghoddos hasn't torn up any trees yet, he at least has a valid excuse (new guy, both BFC and EFL)
Vid
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Needs to spend less time with his hair style. He looks unbalanced. Easily pushed off the ball. Didn’t TF say last season he put in extra time training at LR to get up to speed. We know he’s got the skills. He did get a Bolo king from Henry when he let an attack waltz past him. Maybe he’s a confidence player lacking confidence.
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Can I just point out that writing off Ghoddos as “not good enough” after half a dozen appearances is absolutely absurd. A player we’ve tracked for some considerable period of time and you’ve made your mind up in about 350 minutes.
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I dont think he was what we needed, we either needed an out and out winger a Kadeem Harris type or a Said type player. You are right I shouldnt write him off but Ive not seen anything so far to get excited about. A couple of nice touches but to me he doesnt look anywhere near fit enough.
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And we won one of those last 2 matches 3-0, blimey just think what we would have done to Luton if we had a full team out there
Did anyone watch the YT video account of his journey from Denmark with his agent, to meet the BFC bosses to discuss his signing?
I was worried about his blank faced lack of enthusiasm, his detachment, his diffidence, his main stated motivation being that he needed a good monetary deal, because his father was out of work..I just didn't take to him at all and this non dynamic personality has translated to his on field performances, taken in the round; he just has failed to pull up many trees! What a massive contrast to the dynamic, committed and ambitious Ivan Toney; that's the calibre of player BFC should target.
I was worried about his blank faced lack of enthusiasm, his detachment, his diffidence, his main stated motivation being that he needed a good monetary deal, because his father was out of work..I just didn't take to him at all and this non dynamic personality has translated to his on field performances, taken in the round; he just has failed to pull up many trees! What a massive contrast to the dynamic, committed and ambitious Ivan Toney; that's the calibre of player BFC should target.
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7-0??
AB
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Some players can never please. He also got slated for being too pumped about Fulham.
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Hoka hey!
Are you surprised?
North Northants Bee
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Talk about courting bad luck!
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Conspiracy theories abound on this thread don't they........
beebopalula
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Has tended to go missing in recent appearances. Shame as he seemed to have turned a corner last season. Deservedly subbed.
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Yep,
Don't see Scott Parker as the greatest motivator in the game, Marcondes did his team talk for him.
Mr Cynical
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yep, they were really struggling to get themselves up for the Play off final...
I'll Bee Damned
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This is a game of very fine margins, Why hand the opposition an extra advantage, no matter how small? I thought the comment was daft - didn't you?
Yes it’s right up there with the verdict on Mbuemo after 1 game last season ‘the worst debut in Brentford’s history’ .
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