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Emiliano Marcondes - Signs to June 2021

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Norgaard has been back training for a couple of weeks and Pontus now back on grass... is EM behind them in his rehab, does anyone know?
 

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Can’t be far away then. Mads Bistrup got on the subs bench in record time so those three should be near.
Yeah, squad looking even stronger soon. Can only be a good thing.
 

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Can’t be far away then. Mads Bistrup got on the subs bench in record time so those three should be near.
Back in time for the “must win” games in March. Phew!! 👍😎
 

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Was training outside like Pontus and Christian today.
Has been out with back injury for far less time than the afore-mentioned and assuming now fully fit could well even feature on bench tomorrow.
 

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Might not be a popular opinion, but I for one am very pleased to see him back in the team.

He's mercurial, but I'm hoping he can be as important a player for us in this run-in as he was last run-in – and help get us over the line this time 🙏
 

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The little scare over Toney and Forss leading to having no recognised and established striker has meant having a different set of options for forward play while retaining a 433 was important. I think finding that Bryan can do a job more centrally and having Ghoddos/Marcondes as the most advanced midfielder gives us that alternative and a different set of questions for opponents.
 

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Fantastic player in my opinion. Has been a big miss and will be very important for the run in. Strong, skilful and can score goals.
 

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We upgraded in Ghoddos IMO.

Decent squad player, but looking forward to who else we can bring in to strengthen centre mid in the summer.
 

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So big to have him back, he is so full of energy and so classy, if he can be consistent he is such a big plus to the run in. Other Champ clubs would dream of having him in their squad.
 

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So big to have him back, he is so full of energy and so classy, if he can be consistent he is such a big plus to the run in. Other Champ clubs would dream of having him in their squad.
Some may decide to have him in their squad next season too. 🤷

Doesn't offer much IMO. Ghoddos has done more in his short spell than EM in his interupted 3 years.

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Fantastic player in my opinion. Has been a big miss and will be very important for the run in. Strong, skilful and can score goals.
He will make us stronger as a squad. Definitely needs to be finding the net more though. As an attacking player he’s not scored anywhere near the amount of goals for us as he should of. I’ve just read 3 in 69 that can’t be right can it?
 

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He will make us stronger as a squad. Definitely needs to be finding the net more though. As an attacking player he’s not scored anywhere near the amount of goals for us as he should of. I’ve just read 3 in 69 that can’t be right can it?
Yeah I’ve always thought him quite good in front my of goal, maybe I was wrong 😂 Still decent though and a big boost to have him back
 

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He will make us stronger as a squad. Definitely needs to be finding the net more though. As an attacking player he’s not scored anywhere near the amount of goals for us as he should of. I’ve just read 3 in 69 that can’t be right can it?
Yes, the grand total of 3 in 70 odd. Maybe he’s a late developer and will bang in half a dozen in our last 12 games to see us up to the PL 😉
 

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Fantastic player in my opinion. Has been a big miss and will be very important for the run in. Strong, skilful and can score goals.
He looked a quality player a cut above Most of rest of players on park when he came on to pitch Wednesday. Maybe he can provide us with the additional boost for rest of season after having an enforced break
 

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Some may decide to have him in their squad next season too. 🤷

Doesn't offer much IMO. Ghoddos has done more in his short spell than EM in his interupted 3 years.

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His defenders often point to the work he does off the ball and the overall impact he has on team performances. No doubt club analysts with access to tracking data will be well acquainted with this. I agree that he can sometimes frustrate but if you look at the simple metric of goals scored and conceded when he is on the pitch compared to when he is on the bench or out of the side, it's difficult to argue that he's the liability that some claim.

In league games from the beginning of last season until his recent back injury we scored 49 goals and conceded 19 while he was on the pitch (2.58 avg) and scored 67 and conceded 40 with him off the pitch in the same period (1.67 avg). Along the way he played all 12 games (9 wins) while on loan in Denmark at eventual title winners Midtiylland.
 

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Some may decide to have him in their squad next season too. 🤷

Doesn't offer much IMO. Ghoddos has done more in his short spell than EM in his interupted 3 years.

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He did put in some fantastic performances back end of last season when he had a run. Assists in the build-up and he scored important goals. I think he frustrates some but his positive impact is greater than many realise. The analysts really rate him for his all round contribution. Maybe some of it is "unseen work"...
 

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Yeah I’ve always thought him quite good in front my of goal, maybe I was wrong 😂 Still decent though and a big boost to have him back
but at least one of his goals was a really important one last season iirc? One of the last home games. Great skill and finish.
 

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He did put in some fantastic performances back end of last season when he had a run. Assists in the build-up and he scored important goals. I think he frustrates some but his positive impact is greater than many realise. The analysts really rate him for his all round contribution. Maybe some of it is "unseen work"...
The point of detailed analytics is it shows what may otherwise be unseen.
 

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There are games when we need the abilities of Marcondes and Jensen to unpick a defence, when we are playing Stoke for example. Trouble is, we also need to be hugely competitive in midfield against sides like this. Tricky decisions for TF, glad I'm not a coach.
 

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Reading this thread does make me smile. With mere mortal footballers it’s goals, assists or tackles won, with Emiliano it’s the quality or importance of goals, the assists for assists and the unseen work (that only analysts can appreciate) that counts. And before anyone calls me a hater... I’m really pleased to see him back in the mix. Gotta laugh though 😁
 

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Reading this thread does make me smile. With mere mortal footballers it’s goals, assists or tackles won, with Emiliano it’s the quality or importance of goals, the assists for assists and the unseen work (that only analysts can appreciate) that counts. And before anyone calls me a hater... I’m really pleased to see him back in the mix. Gotta laugh though 😁
Grateful we have the kind of set-up with a team of experts who can determine the true value of certain players better than mere mortal fans. Does make me laugh that some think the alternative to that would be better. 😁
 

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He gets in good positions. Should have done better with the chances he has had this season, but interesting to see how close he is to the ball when we have scored some of our goals this season. This would indicate that if the scorer did something wrong, he would have had the chance to take advantage of it.
 
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Reading this thread does make me smile. With mere mortal footballers it’s goals, assists or tackles won, with Emiliano it’s the quality or importance of goals, the assists for assists and the unseen work (that only analysts can appreciate) that counts. And before anyone calls me a hater... I’m really pleased to see him back in the mix. Gotta laugh though 😁
When you’re a passing team, assists for assists are hugely valuable. At our most toothless the problem has been having the front three isolated so there are no crosses or through balls for assists because the player to make them never gets the ball in an area he can make them. So the front three come back very deep to receive the ball where it is easy for them to be closed down or dispossessed by a combative midfield. Unless they’ve got “not good enough/don’t get stuck in/lightweight” midfielders like Marcondes and Jensen who can switch the play away from the swarm around whichever of the front three has got the ball to one of the ones being left unchallenged. We see their contribution then as a lazy swish that is gone in a fraction of a second while we coo over the charging run into the box by JDS to shoot or cross from. We also usually don’t notice that after the camera or our attention has switched to the player holding the ball that such midfielders have almost invariably made a run to be an option to recycle the ball or to drag a defender out of position. This is the difference from the likes of McEachran, who basically stopped to admire his handicraft rather than make that next move.

A good example of that off the ball movement is our goal last season at Boro. Canos bedazzled their midfield and defence just past half way to put in an outrageous ball for Watkins to bury. Watkins had the time and space to do so because Marcondes had pulled one of the CBs wide and made the other hesitate about the gap he might then run into and the risk of Watkins going the other side. No assist, shot or goal for EM, but an integral part of an exceptional move.
 

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I'm sure I'm not alone in being surprised at his Bees goals tally.
Was he an out and out striker when he was banging them in for fun in Denmark ?
 

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I'm sure I'm not alone in being surprised at his Bees goals tally.
Was he an out and out striker when he was banging them in for fun in Denmark ?
I'm not sure he was ever "banging them in for fun". A young player with a lot of skills would have been played as an attacker and given free rein. Finding the position that suits in a competitive professional league is very different.
 

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I'm not sure he was ever "banging them in for fun". A young player with a lot of skills would have been played as an attacker and given free rein. Finding the position that suits in a competitive professional league is very different.
This goals video from when Marcondes and Jensen played together in the 2017/8 season may be of interest.

Nordsjaelland 2017
 

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Would he say that to Ivan Toney? 😂
(It was my post) I might ask him if he had heard of Jason Lee and was he copying that player’s hairstyle? Have you ever asked such a question before about the thousands of comments on this site relating to players. Lighten up.
 

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