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....any views...predictions...jock haters....couldnt care lessers....give your opinion here.
 

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Was one of my favourite fixtures during the 70s & 80s.:beer:

Went to a few at Wembley and an eventful day at Hampden Park.Met Aberdeens finest for about half hour. lol:eek::sorted:

Doesn't seem the same now as it is such a rarity,but I wouldn't mind going even though I turned down a ticket last week.Sounds Irish I know,but times have changed for me and the lad with the spare wants to go on the lash from 10 in the morning.I would have thumped him by 12 so watching it at home.

Nice bloke and that even though he is from Blackburn.
 

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Not bothered probably won't bother watching on TV. A nothing game and Hodgson on a hiding to nothing as England expected to win but its only the Jocks that are bothered, likened by Alan Beasil this morning to Scotland's World Cup

Hope the cross bars are insured !!!
 

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I'll be there. I'm too young to remember the old rivalry with the jocks but never really liked them. Looking forward to it
 

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This should have been the first international fixture at the new Wembley, would have been better than Brazil.
 

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Come on England lets bet these
 

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not interested really, pleased for lambert but when I look at that squad I yawn.....won't be watching.
 
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.....its 'just a nothing game' is pure english arrogance.... what thats all about... superiority complexlol
 

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.....its 'just a nothing game' is pure english arrogance.... what thats all about... superiority complexlol

No it's just the usual suspects on here , big game for a lot of us . 80000 others agree as do the loads of peeps I know that will be I various pubs around the metropolis :wink:
 

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.....its 'just a nothing game' is pure english arrogance.... what thats all about... superiority complexlol

I think that would have been the view whomever we were playing; a friendly before the season has started for the players concerned seems a waste of time, and just an opportunity to get players injured
 

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I think that would have been the view whomever we were playing; a friendly before the season has started for the players concerned seems a waste of time, and just an opportunity to get players injured

Got to be better prep than flying to Asia just to make a few quid
 

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Can't stand it when people get so negative about the national team.
 

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Can't stand it when people get so negative about the national team.

Problem is the season has not really started and its only cos FIFA insist that we are playing a friendly at all. Once the important games come along then reckon more will be interested but in reality this is a meaningless game for us but an important game for the Jocks

Can see some players being injured before the season starts after this one !!
 

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Sept 6 and 10th there are World Cup qualifiers.Roy needs a prep game for those very very important matches.England would be playing someone anyway as it is International week.
Would love to see this fixture return annually,but our FA have not really wanted too.Sad really.
 
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....its a very important game for the 'jock' players,and a win against a depleted half hearted english team,would be much better for confidence,than a win against any other depleted half hearted team in the world......as for the 'jock' supporters they couldnt give a flying feck about the depleted and half hearted factor........its england,its the new wembley,its swords,spears,shields,without the swords,shields and spears........most of all its a game of football ......and scottish people love football.
 

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....its a very important game for the 'jock' players,and a win against a depleted half hearted english team,would be much better for confidence,than a win against any other depleted half hearted team in the world......as for the 'jock' supporters they couldnt give a flying feck about the depleted and half hearted factor........its england,its the new wembley,its swords,spears,shields,without the swords,shields and spears........most of all its a game of football ......and scottish people love football.

Probably more importantly its a massive piss up......and Scottish people love a massive piss up.
 

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Can't stand it when people get so negative about the national team.

As someone who was a fanatic, earliest memory was not the World cup 1966 as only 3 but being devastated and crying uncontrollably when we lost to first Brazil and then West Germany in 1970 I never thought I'd become apathetic to the National team. I've watched them home and away (worked for BA for 10 years) and yet now I wouldn't even switch the telly over let alone cross the road to watch a meaningless friendly between a second rate and third tier country.
I've posted before but the recent crop of players can't relate to normal working class fans. They make no secret that they don't care what we think as we don't understand what it's like for them. They make out that the expectations are a cross they have to bear and don't appreciate that £250K a week salary means we should beat someone like Algeria and their part timers. Worst still, we didn't even cheer them afterwards even though it was really hot and they sweated a lot out there and the other team didn't play to a system but just ran around a lot and spoilt our well thought out plan.
Read that one England fan saved £12K and jacked in his job to watch Englands group matches in SA and yet Rooney thinks we owe the players more respect than they were shown after gutless performances and was disgusted when asked if he thought the players owed fans a better performance.
When he was England Manager I walked alongside Ron Greenwood as he strolled along Clifden road from the station talking to fans on his way to a game - can you honestly see that happening again?

I've been lucky enough to meet a fair few of the current Bees side at various times in the last couple of years both as a fan and sponsor and at a couple of social events and our players are a credit to the club and their profession and if they weren't I don't think they'd be here very long. Sorry but I suspect a lot of others feel the same way now and it's not an age thing it's the unbridgeable gap between "us and them" that the Premiership superstars make no effort to address.
 
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Scotland have been given three quarters of Wembley...

Ps. Realise I'll look an arse if it's at Hampden. Not too bothered. Would like to think our nation could beat a team of Scots put together and coached by Gordon Strachan. Won't lose sleep if we don't and won't fight for the TV controls.
 

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Don't feel any affinity to the national team anymore, as said previously I wouldn't have missed it in years gone by but now I couldn't give a toss.
They're not representing us anymore it appears it's all about themselves.
 

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Don't feel any affinity to the national team anymore, as said previously I wouldn't have missed it in years gone by but now I couldn't give a toss.
They're not representing us anymore it appears it's all about themselves.

Brilliant, you managed in two lines to summarise what it took me ages to bang on about in post #21. You're so right
 

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England squad
Goalkeepers: Ben Foster, Joe Hart, John Ruddy
Defenders: Leighton Baines, Gary Cahill, Ashley Cole, Phil Jagielka, Glen Johnson, Phil Jones, Chris Smalling, Kyle Walker
Midfielders: Michael Carrick, Tom Cleverley, Steven Gerrard, Frank Lampard, Jack Wilshere, James Milner, Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain, Theo Walcott, Wilfried Zaha
Strikers: Jermain Defoe, Rickie Lambert, Wayne Rooney, Danny Welbeck

Scotland squad
Goalkeepers: Matt Gilks, David Marshall, Allan McGregor
Defenders: Gordon Greer, Steven Hammell, Grant Hanley, Alan Hutton, Russell Martin, Charlie Mulgrew, Andy Webster, Steven Whittaker
Midfielders: Charlie Adam, Barry Bannan, George Boyd, Chris Burke, Scott Brown, Craig Conway, Graham Dorrans, James Forrest, Gary Mackay-Steven, Shaun Maloney, James McArthur, James Morrison, Robert Snodgrass
Forwards: Leigh Griffiths, Steven Naismith, Kenny Miller, Jordan Rhodes

The Jocks defence looks weak but they recently kept Croatia out in a qualifier. Hopefully Rhodes will play but guessing it will be a very 4-5-1 formation from them. Think it will entertaining. Scott brown must be a shoe in for a yellow card
 

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jocks have 20k officially and probably a few more who will try and sit with their beloved enemy in the home seats too.....good luck is all im going to say to that ;) lol

as long as we beat em thats all that matters...1-0 or 10-0, not bothered just dont lose too em mr hodgson ;)

oh, and avoid trafalger square from mid=day,,,,,that fountain area will be a right state by late afternoon
 
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.....the self acclaimed tartan army are these days made up of supporters from clubs in scotland who hate the old firm with a passion.....never used to be the case back in the 70's 80's 90's.........it was then a working class football special type support and used to unite supporters from the glasgow,edinburgh,dundee,and aberdeen clubs...it was a proper jolly up and a great laugh coming to wembley the home of football.....now its a bunch of overweight middle class numpties with allegiances to the saltire,deluded about scotland being a nation again,who know next to nothing about the game.
 
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I know plenty of working class supporters that are coming down

.......good......in that case we might lose the game,but not the punch up........same old same old then;)
 

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Oh aye a couple of them are total nutters surprised they are not banged up to be honest said they are looking forward to it though, so that's the main thing. I'm sure it will be a really friendly affair.:beer: lol
 

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Personally could not give a toss about the game. Nevertheless, if England can't beat this load of rubbish, then they might as well forget all about going to Brazil, before wasting the money to go there.
 
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Personally could not give a toss about the game. Nevertheless, if England can't beat this load of rubbish, then they might as well forget all about going to Brazil, before wasting the money to go there.

....wont make a blind bit of difference to englands chances in brazil if scotland win tomorrow.
 

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....wont make a blind bit of difference to englands chances in brazil if scotland win tomorrow.

On reflection you are right. If England even qualify they can save themselves some money and stay at home, because they have as much chance of success, as I do becoming the next king. :D
 
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On reflection you are right. If England even qualify they can save themselves some money and stay at home, because they have as much chance of success, as I do becoming the next king. :D

.....at least england will be there mate.....and i'll be supporting them as i always do.
 
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More interested in watching the Northern Ireland vs Russia game to see how Grigg (and McGinn/Hodson) can cope against top level opposition in a qualification match. International friendlies are like watching paint dry.
 

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Not interested in the slightest and more concerned with planning my journey on The Met Line to avoid drunken pricks on both sides.
 
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:backtotopic:......think scotland will give england a good game tomorrow,and may be more up for it.....scotland will play a pressing game with 5 in midfield,not dissimilar to brentford saturday.....if england play to widemen scotland will be in trouble....scotlands best chance of winning from set pieces.....2-1 scotland.......but most importantly, and sadly,goalposts intact.....stupid bloody moats.
 

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:backtotopic:......think scotland will give england a good game tomorrow,and may be more up for it.....scotland will play a pressing game with 5 in midfield,not dissimilar to brentford saturday.....if england play to widemen scotland will be in trouble....scotlands best chance of winning from set pieces.....2-1 scotland.......but most importantly, and sadly,goalposts intact.....stupid bloody
moats.

Think you maybe the only bloke who gives a jot about a meaningless friendly. One ordinary side full of players who really don't want be there for fear of getting injured before the season even starts. The other a particularly weak side full of players keen to enjoy the spotlight and avoid getting thrashed. The only real press interest in the match itself is the prospect of villifying Woy if England underperform and don't win comfortably. Result aside they'll be praying for outrageous headlines and waiting to see how badly the
Scottish fans behave. No doubt the red tops will be plying
sweaty groups with drink and encouraging misbehaviour
by offering incentives for a repeat of the 1977 pitch
invasion.
Non event as far as I'm concerned.
 

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Think you maybe the only bloke who gives a jot about a meaningless friendly. One ordinary side full of players who really don't want be there for fear of getting injured before the season even starts. The other a particularly weak side full of players keen to enjoy the spotlight and avoid getting thrashed. The only real press interest in the match itself is the prospect of villifying Woy if England underperform and don't win comfortably. Result aside they'll be praying for outrageous headlines and waiting to see how badly the
Scottish fans behave. No doubt the red tops will be plying
sweaty groups with drink and encouraging misbehaviour
by offering incentives for a repeat of the 1977 pitch
invasion.
Non event as far as I'm concerned.

He's not the only one at all. You not interested fair enough but you are not brainwashing those of us that are . Come on England !
 
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