England vs Pakistan 1st Test

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Leonardo said:
I'd declare at tea when Collingwood will be 210 and England 533

I'm always against declaring during a break, it gives the team about to bat more time to plan their innings.

Having ten minutes to rush in, put you pads on a get back out benefits the bowling side.
 

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West Ealing Bee said:
I'm always against declaring during a break, it gives the team about to bat more time to plan their innings.

Having ten minutes to rush in, put you pads on a get back out benefits the bowling side.

:imwith: Never give them time to prepare.
 

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Jones out.



Read In.
 

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Reading ? not again, they get everywhere
 

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The H said:
dunno.... he might get 2 tests in this series if Jones drops a few chances.

If I, and many others, were picking the team he would probably already be out. Even those who gave him the benfit of the doubt can see his lack of runs is too big an obstacle to overcome.

But I think Fletcher sees this as a slightly personal issue, Jones is his man and he won't drop him.
 

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The H said:
we'll need the best wk-batsman in the Ashes / World Cup

We need the best wk-batsman NOW.

It appears very few, apart from Fletcher, think that man is Jones, but Fletcher's opinion is the one that counts :shrug:
 

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Bell brings up his hundred.

Anyone remember the last time three England batsmen scored 100s in the same innings :scratch:

528-9
 

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West Ealing Bee said:
Anyone remember the last time three England batsmen scored 100s in the same innings :scratch:

It was the Boxing Day Test against South Africa in Durban in 2004.

Trescothick, Strauss and Thorpe :sorted:
 

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Who's been looking at cricinfo? :computer: ;)
 

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Anyway, back to Lord's.

Excellent day for England, declaring at 528 for 9 and then knocking over three Pakistani wickets for 66. They're in big trouble and will be looking to Inzi to lead them out of it. My main concern now is that the match lasts into Sunday, when I have a ticket!
 

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Just saw that Collingwood catch on the telly.

Unbelievable.

What a day he's had!
 

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Another very good day and the three borderline batsmen are now putting a lot of pressure on the 1st choices. I find it strange that no-one has mentioned KP could be considered for the chop as despite his brilliance he has flaws in his game, one of them being that he's often far too agressive at the start of an innings and had he come in and done what Cook, Collingwood and Bell did, he may have filled his boots too. That said, he was unlucky to be given out.

With regard to Jones, today's innings is irrelevant as far as I'm concerned as he was rightly looking to get some quick runs. I imagine his performance behind the stumps tomorrow wll be the factor in deciding whether he gets another chance but the egg timer has to run out eventually. I think Fletcher must have serious personal issues with Read TBH.

At the moment, Pakistan are almost exactly where we were ealry on Thursday, so 2 early wickets tomorrow are the key.
 

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Fielder of the Day

:cool:

I take catches like Collingwood's for warm-up :fishing:
 

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Jimbee said:
Another very good day and the three borderline batsmen are now putting a lot of pressure on the 1st choices. I find it strange that no-one has mentioned KP could be considered for the chop as despite his brilliance he has flaws in his game, one of them being that he's often far too agressive at the start of an innings and had he come in and done what Cook, Collingwood and Bell did, he may have filled his boots too. That said, he was unlucky to be given out.

The difference is that Pietersen has scored big runs for England recently, 2 scores of 150+ against Sri Lanka, and a hundred in Pakistan before Xmas. In that time Strauss has passed 50 twice :eek: and he has never scored more than 140 for England and has only once, if I remember rightly, batted through a full day.
There is no doubt he's a good player but a superb start is adding gloss to an average which is dropping like a stone in both forms of the game.




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At the moment, Pakistan are almost exactly where we were ealry on Thursday, so 2 early wickets tomorrow are the key.

We have a ball that is reasonably new and Harmison bowling very well. You are dead right, two wickets, the nightwatchman plus one of the big two, and we are right into them.

Afridi is just as likely to fail as fire and if he goes too the pressure will be huge.

Big first hour.
 
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280-5. Really need 3 wickets before close otherwise I can see a score of 450+. Need Yousef out sooner rather than later.
 

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Pakistan's day. They made good use of a very good batting pitch and Yousuf was superb.

But the wicket of Akmal at the end gives England a sniff. We could knock the tail over tomorrow and get a lead of 80 or so, which makes things interesting.

However if Afridi gets going they could even inch ahead.

Morning crucial again.
 

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A good batting wicket, two sides packed with batting, two sides missing their most penetrative bowlers and short on bowling numbers, perfect batting conditions throughout. It's going to be a draw, isn't it?

Nice for KP to pick up a wicket - I wonder how Collingwood feels about that? :)

I predict an extremely dull day of cricket tomorrow, on the basis that I shall be at Lord's to witness it! :D
 

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West Ealing Bee said:
T In that time Strauss has passed 50 twice :eek: and he has never scored more than 140 for England and has only once, if I remember rightly, batted through a full day.
There is no doubt he's a good player but a superb start is adding gloss to an average which is dropping like a stone in both forms of the game.


i agree.... send him back to Middlesex :sorted:
 

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Could be an interesting final day tomorrow.

We're 340 ahead with three wickets left. Good knock from Strauss, he proved me wrong, pity he had to run Bell out to ensure he didn't get dropped though ;)

I can't see us bowling them out in a day unless Monty has a great day or it misbehaves for Harmison, the pitch is too batsman friendly.

Having said that, we should have a go. Send Plunkett out to tyr and smash everything for 4-5 overs and declare. Leave oursleves 83-84 overs, so we can have a new ball if they're clinging on, and see what happens.
They might fold under pressure.
 

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Well, a good start marred by some poor batting from KP and Colly. I told my friends that Strauss would not last to the end and unfortunately I was right. I think this could be a very tight finish, with any of four results still possible. I might have to shift myself down to St John's Wood again tomorrow!
 

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Can anyone explain what the bloody hell England are playing at?
 

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Seems like we are just plodding along this morning, taking time out of the game.

A lead of 359 now with 6 overs gone.

That has pretty much taken the second new ball out of equation.

I hope we don't end with them 8-9 down Mr Strauss/Fletcher :mad1:
 

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Do you think that the team we aspire to be, namely Australia, would be doing this?
 

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Bit negative, but without Freddie our attack could be toothless. But I reckon that famous David Gower declaration of 1984 is still something that English captains can't forget.
 

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Getting the openers out was good but the key batsman are still there, or to come.

If we can get two wickets in the first hour after lunch it opens it up for us but TBH I reckon they'll bat through.
 

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West Ealing Bee said:
Getting the openers out was good but the key batsman are still there, or to come.

If we can get two wickets in the first hour after lunch it opens it up for us but TBH I reckon they'll bat through.

So do I. Comfortably so as well. We just haven't got the depth of bowling in this side to trouble good batsmen on good pitches.
 
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