Expectations for Season 20/21

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If we can tighten up at the back again top 2 should be realistic. We haven't kept a clean sheet in some time. My only worry. And we've been very clinical in front of goal if we suddenly became a bit less clinical we may drift into more draws and losses.
 

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If we can tighten up at the back again top 2 should be realistic. We haven't kept a clean sheet in some time. My only worry. And we've been very clinical in front of goal if we suddenly became a bit less clinical we may drift into more draws and losses.
but most of the goals in recent weeks should not have been allowed
 

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If we can tighten up at the back again top 2 should be realistic. We haven't kept a clean sheet in some time. My only worry. And we've been very clinical in front of goal if we suddenly became a bit less clinical we may drift into more draws and losses.
If we do that we just look more like the team around the time of Wycombe away.
 

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We do need to tighten up defensively, although Thomas Frank has already referred to this. While we have had a couple of dodgy ones given, we also gave up clear chances against Boro and were lucky to keep it only at 1! On another day we could have let in 3 pretty easily.

While that may be part of the game with us scoring so many at the moment, I'd rather us not get caught out by losing a surprise game 1-4 when the coin lands the other way. Hopefully we can tweak our play (in particular with set pieces) to concede less. It's better to be proactive to change that rather than waiting for us to start losing games.
 

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The Bournemouth FA cup win tonight v Tarkowski’s mob may be helpful to us , as it will be a distraction to Bournemouth, and at least one extra game to play.

Anything that helps to distance the chasing pack will all help our challenge for the automatic promotion places!
 

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I think Top 2 is very possible - From the outside you'd say probable. My only two worries: very dependent on a few players (but I would have probably included Pontus in that previously) and those balls into the box which lead to goals against.
 
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Top of the league after what 60% of the season gone. I would have taken 2 points from our last 2 away tough games but we got 6. Amazing and we scored 7. Just wow.

18 games to go and I honestly think we only need to win 10 plus 3 draws to be promoted. Let's BEElive.
 

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my main expectation now is that my levels of concern about ability to get a season ticket next year will continue to increase and make me very stressed.
I did my best to convince my pal to get one last year but with COVID he was a naysayer.
 

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my main expectation now is that my levels of concern about ability to get a season ticket next year will continue to increase and make me very stressed.
I did my best to convince my pal to get one last year but with COVID he was a naysayer.
Buying and freezing my first ever ST this season is I expect going to turn out one of my best decisions!
 

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Buying and freezing my first ever ST this season is I expect going to turn out one of my best decisions!
Agree fully with this but in my case it was not my first ST. When we go up I fancy that season tickets will be in short supply.
 

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Agree fully with this but in my case it was not my first ST. When we go up I fancy that season tickets will be in short supply.
Yes, though I think the scrum to buy non-ST tickets will be worse!
 

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It’s all becoming increasingly challenging now.

Every year we come up short against the black arts bullies and it costs us. This season we seemed to have overcome this but after being robbed at Swansea and then completely bullied off the pitch by Barnsley and QPR.

I hate to say it but I just can’t see us beating these teams again, we have lost the momentum and we all know these teams are allowed to play like this and we have no answer for it.

QPR’s first goal today, FFS, they gave away 12-13 fouls tonight stopping out counter and we just let them run from deep in their own half without a challenge going in.

We all know you can’t just football your way out of this division and the refs are totally complicit in dark arts tactics and we have let it derail us again.

To be honest as much as I can’t handle another collapse, another play off failure or another team of cheats being allowed to go up there is a huge part of me that wants to be there when we do it.

Being in the premier is something I would enjoy and see if MB can pit his wits against the big boys but the promotion to get there would be the golden moment of my Brentford life. I don’t really want to do it in my spare room watching on an iPad with those soulless stadiums.
 

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It’s all becoming increasingly challenging now.

Every year we come up short against the black arts bullies and it costs us. This season we seemed to have overcome this but after being robbed at Swansea and then completely bullied off the pitch by Barnsley and QPR.

I hate to say it but I just can’t see us beating these teams again, we have lost the momentum and we all know these teams are allowed to play like this and we have no answer for it.

QPR’s first goal today, FFS, they gave away 12-13 fouls tonight stopping out counter and we just let them run from deep in their own half without a challenge going in.

We all know you can’t just football your way out of this division and the refs are totally complicit in dark arts tactics and we have let it derail us again.

To be honest as much as I can’t handle another collapse, another play off failure or another team of cheats being allowed to go up there is a huge part of me that wants to be there when we do it.

Being in the premier is something I would enjoy and see if MB can pit his wits against the big boys but the promotion to get there would be the golden moment of my Brentford life. I don’t really want to do it in my spare room watching on an iPad with those soulless stadiums.
I concur with the last paragraph and it was why I wasn't as bothered by the playoff final defeat as I would have been in a normal season. I can take or leave the PL to be honest - would love to go up for MB and to visit some of the iconic stadia but in reality we are never going to stay there for very long. If you look outside of the biggest 7 teams every club has been relegated at some point over the last decade or so and we are not a sustainable PL club - harsh but ultimately true.
 

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It’s all becoming increasingly challenging now.

Every year we come up short against the black arts bullies and it costs us. This season we seemed to have overcome this but after being robbed at Swansea and then completely bullied off the pitch by Barnsley and QPR.

I hate to say it but I just can’t see us beating these teams again, we have lost the momentum and we all know these teams are allowed to play like this and we have no answer for it.

QPR’s first goal today, FFS, they gave away 12-13 fouls tonight stopping out counter and we just let them run from deep in their own half without a challenge going in.

We all know you can’t just football your way out of this division and the refs are totally complicit in dark arts tactics and we have let it derail us again.

To be honest as much as I can’t handle another collapse, another play off failure or another team of cheats being allowed to go up there is a huge part of me that wants to be there when we do it.

Being in the premier is something I would enjoy and see if MB can pit his wits against the big boys but the promotion to get there would be the golden moment of my Brentford life. I don’t really want to do it in my spare room watching on an iPad with those soulless stadiums.
If we can pick up where we left off before the last two games, and maybe it’s a big ask with tired legs and drooping heads, I’m optimistic we’ll be OK playing our way. Let’s move on to Saturday.
 

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I concur with the last paragraph and it was why I wasn't as bothered by the playoff final defeat as I would have been in a normal season. I can take or leave the PL to be honest - would love to go up for MB and to visit some of the iconic stadia but in reality we are never going to stay there for very long. If you look outside of the biggest 7 teams every club has been relegated at some point over the last decade or so and we are not a sustainable PL club - harsh but ultimately true.
I would love to see us have a couple of years in the Prem, to see how we perform against some of the big clubs. In reality though If we had gone up last year I don’t think we would have done that much better than Fulham or WBA, with the shorter pre-season etc. and I think we could have been this season’s Norwich, as in good to watch but easy to beat at the end of the day.

We can definitely still do it this year and we will have a better chance of staying up if we can do it automatically.
 

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Its weird - we have 7 more points than at this stage last season but arguably the front 3 and defence were better as a unit. 16 games to go - onwards and upwards...
 

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It’s all becoming increasingly challenging now.

Every year we come up short against the black arts bullies and it costs us. This season we seemed to have overcome this but after being robbed at Swansea and then completely bullied off the pitch by Barnsley and QPR.

I hate to say it but I just can’t see us beating these teams again, we have lost the momentum and we all know these teams are allowed to play like this and we have no answer for it.

QPR’s first goal today, FFS, they gave away 12-13 fouls tonight stopping out counter and we just let them run from deep in their own half without a challenge going in.

We all know you can’t just football your way out of this division and the refs are totally complicit in dark arts tactics and we have let it derail us again.

To be honest as much as I can’t handle another collapse, another play off failure or another team of cheats being allowed to go up there is a huge part of me that wants to be there when we do it.

Being in the premier is something I would enjoy and see if MB can pit his wits against the big boys but the promotion to get there would be the golden moment of my Brentford life. I don’t really want to do it in my spare room watching on an iPad with those soulless stadiums.
Good post and I agree with everything you say! While we keep finding new players and our recruitment is top notch, I think Toney has hidden a lot of problems this season.

His goals and assists have been unreal and I think it's fair to say he won't spend another year in the championship, also will we keep Raya, Da Silva, Norgaard and Rico in the championship!

We're on a great journey and I can also take or leave us being a PL club, but I'd love to see us achieve it for MB, it may also be essential for our mid to long term competiveness. My concern has always been there becomes a time we aren't lucky with a Toney etc and lose too many players at the one time and end up with other problems. Football wise we'll always be there as fans but I want the club to continue moving forward.

If we do miss out this year part of me thinks we've threw a lot at it in the last two years, and that might not be sustainable especially coming out of a pandemic. I'd love to be there to witness promotion in person but what if this is us taking a financial risk to achieve the dream, and if we fail again then it becomes increasingly difficult to go at it again.

Preston had a great run at it a decade and a half ago, I think they got to three play off finals, they didn't get over the line and eventually had to fall back into the pack.
 

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Current expectation. Losing to Barnsley in the play offs. It'll pass.
 

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My current line of thinking is a Doncaster type game against Watford on last day will deny us top two. We then proceed to lose to Colin's Middlesbrough in PO semis, winning goal following a foul on Raya. Might feel better and revise this tomorrow though.
 

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Its weird - we have 7 more points than at this stage last season but arguably the front 3 and defence were better as a unit. 16 games to go - onwards and upwards...
Yes, indeed.

"Past performance not a guarantee of future results." BMW tired in the latter stages last summer; I feel this team has a lot more depth than last year's squad. We're in 2nd, having missed significant time from expected contributors.

Hold the fort, boys. Decelerate, play our game, aim for 18 pts before the break. We'll be fine.
 

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My current line of thinking is a Doncaster type game against Watford on last day will deny us top two. We then proceed to lose to Colin's Middlesbrough in PO semis, winning goal following a foul on Raya. Might feel better and revise this tomorrow though.
We're playing Bristol City on the last day of the season.
 

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We're playing Bristol City on the last day of the season.
Oh yes. Watford must be the last home game. I was going to revise my prediction to include a 1993-style capitulation at Ashton Gate but have mellowed somewhat overnight and am going for four teams in with a chance of top two with a couple of games to play and we are one of them. An excellent chance to exorcise our reputation as chokers and our Carabao run has helped here.
 

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We will hopefully end the season with:

Raya
Dalsgaard Jansson Pinnock Henry
Dasilva Norgaard Janelt
Fosu Toney Canos

subs:
Daniels
Reid
MBS
Roerslev
Jensen
Ghoddos
Marcondes
Forss
Mbeumo

we’re going up ⬆
 

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It’s all becoming increasingly challenging now.

Every year we come up short against the black arts bullies and it costs us. This season we seemed to have overcome this but after being robbed at Swansea and then completely bullied off the pitch by Barnsley and QPR.

I hate to say it but I just can’t see us beating these teams again, we have lost the momentum and we all know these teams are allowed to play like this and we have no answer for it.

QPR’s first goal today, FFS, they gave away 12-13 fouls tonight stopping out counter and we just let them run from deep in their own half without a challenge going in.

We all know you can’t just football your way out of this division and the refs are totally complicit in dark arts tactics and we have let it derail us again.

To be honest as much as I can’t handle another collapse, another play off failure or another team of cheats being allowed to go up there is a huge part of me that wants to be there when we do it.

Being in the premier is something I would enjoy and see if MB can pit his wits against the big boys but the promotion to get there would be the golden moment of my Brentford life. I don’t really want to do it in my spare room watching on an iPad with those soulless stadiums.
Good post. You are right about the dark arts teams, but interesting to se the two clubs at the top, don't use it like others. Also I don't think we will let too many go. Our selling is limited each season.
 

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It’s all becoming increasingly challenging now.

Every year we come up short against the black arts bullies and it costs us. This season we seemed to have overcome this but after being robbed at Swansea and then completely bullied off the pitch by Barnsley and QPR.

I hate to say it but I just can’t see us beating these teams again, we have lost the momentum and we all know these teams are allowed to play like this and we have no answer for it.

QPR’s first goal today, FFS, they gave away 12-13 fouls tonight stopping out counter and we just let them run from deep in their own half without a challenge going in.

We all know you can’t just football your way out of this division and the refs are totally complicit in dark arts tactics and we have let it derail us again.

To be honest as much as I can’t handle another collapse, another play off failure or another team of cheats being allowed to go up there is a huge part of me that wants to be there when we do it.

Being in the premier is something I would enjoy and see if MB can pit his wits against the big boys but the promotion to get there would be the golden moment of my Brentford life. I don’t really want to do it in my spare room watching on an iPad with those soulless stadiums.
Your 3rd from last paragraph is spot on. Every year a poor but ruthlessly efficient side goes up. We should do the same and play good football.
 

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Norgaard agree 100%, Paul Buckle.....not so sure....
As someone posted the other day, he is 50 now so might not have the legs for 90 mins. A cameo performance in which he headed the ball behind rather than to an opposition player 8 yards out then took Willock out on the halfway line would have sufficed last night.
 

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Just read on BBC Sports Football that Watford won’t be happy, Troy Deeny is out with a Achilles Injury and has his foot in one of those boots . He will have a second scan in two weeks
 

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Just read on BBC Sports Football that Watford won’t be happy, Troy Deeny is out with a Achilles Injury and has his foot in one of those boots . He will have a second scan in two weeks
Great news for them, they are so much better when that cart horse isn’t playing.
 

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Just read on BBC Sports Football that Watford won’t be happy, Troy Deeny is out with a Achilles Injury and has his foot in one of those boots . He will have a second scan in two weeks
This is bad news for us. Watford will kick on without him now.. they were so one dimensional before. Out of Deeney or Joao Pedro, I certainly know who I'd prefer.
 

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Just read on BBC Sports Football that Watford won’t be happy, Troy Deeny is out with a Achilles Injury and has his foot in one of those boots . He will have a second scan in two weeks
................who will take all their penalties??????..............
 
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Nothing in the last 2 games has changed my mind other than Champions. Of course the last two games are hugely disappointing but we are more than capable of getting 9 points from our next 3 before we play Norwich away.
 

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Nothing in the last 2 games has changed my mind other than Champions. Of course the last two games are hugely disappointing but we are more than capable of getting 9 points from our next 3 before we play Norwich away.
How about 15 out of the next 5 but 13 will do for me
 
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How about 15 out of the next 5 but 13 will do for me
I can see a Swansea and Reading away performance at Norwich. However, before we think of Norwich the most important game is the next one and tomorrow is an important game that we should win but need to make sure our performance is right for the full 90 minutes.
 

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We are more than capable of finishing first or second. I firmly believe we are the best team in the league, unfortunately we have an in built in ability to shoot ourselves in the foot when it comes to the crunch
 

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Despite a poor couple of games I still think we'll finish top 2. Squad is getting stronger with players returning to training, we've lost twice in 3.5 months and are 2nd. We can do this.
 

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Despite a poor couple of games I still think we'll finish top 2. Squad is getting stronger with players returning to training, we've lost twice in 3.5 months and are 2nd. We can do this.
That didn’t age well.
 

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Still think we’ll get a top 2 spot. We’ll have Pontus and Norgaard back soon. There is no team in the land that will get past Vitaly and Christian when they are eventually paired up. Have faith brothers and sisters.
 

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I feel much better than I did last week and on weds.
Expectations have gone, pressure had gone, I am in a much better mood. Whatever will be will be.

We have nothing left to lose so I don’t feel this sense of nerves and anxiety I had for 2 months last season and the last few weeks.

I want us to win every game but if we dropped out of it I wouldn’t be that upset, I desperately want to be there to see it so next season will do me.

I really want Swansea to fekk it up, if we don’t go up hopefully Watford will grab it, don’t really care either way about them nowadays.
 

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The double whammy has been losing not just key players from the spine, but also the team leaders.
Janelt and MBS have been amazing in stepping in for CN and PJ, but losing Ivan Toney as well is a bridge too far.

Wonder if an extra man In midfield / false 9 is not worth a go until IT returns.

No way is Top 2 gone yet, with CN and Ivan Toney due back soon, followed by PJ we just may get our momentum back as the season enters its’ crucial final phase.

Hold your nerve, keep the faith.
Still plenty of twists and turns to navigate...
 

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Revising my top 2 back to the playoffs.

Style and confidence looks drained.

You cant concede 1-2 goals a game and win points or places. Everyone around us are picking up points.
 

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Revising my top 2 back to the playoffs.

Style and confidence looks drained.

You cant concede 1-2 goals a game and win points or places. Everyone around us are picking up points.
Not today they aren’t! 4th, 5th and 6th all losing as it stands
 

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