Fans Back in Stadiums from Dec 2nd

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It’s a start and that alone has to be positive.

I am however presuming that it will only be home fans allowed in.
No away fans will be in until stadiums are at full capacity.
 

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....hope you chaps play nicely when the golden ticket emails arrive:judge:.....me and my boy will wait till wonkas factory opens up to all...... I am genuinely pleased for those who're happy to just be there........it will be fun..........LR will feel like Terry Butcher is back in town.
 

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How many bubbles allowed. Listening to this idiot ramble but its not making any sense and he hasn't mentioned bubbles
 

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Random ballot for each game seems the only 'fair' way to me - it's such a limited number (I can't see Brentford being anything lower than tier 2 at best) that prioritising fan A over fan B seems itself too limiting and is a bit of a kick in the face of those that helped the club by choosing Option 1.

I know those that have had STs for say 15 years might think they should get priority over those that have only had theirs 2, but I think given none of us have been able to watch live football for 9 months and this is a new stadium, that shouldn't carry as much weight.

If you're lucky enough to be picked, you're not put back into the ballot again until everyone else has at least had the opportunity to go too (even if they turn their ticket down).

Ideally the club would email all ST holders first to ask who actually would/wouldn't want to go, as that removes the faff of having to redraw loads of tickets each time.
 

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Random ballot for each game seems the only 'fair' way to me - it's such a limited number (I can't see Brentford being anything lower than tier 2 at best) that prioritising fan A over fan B seems itself too limiting and is a bit of a kick in the face of those that helped the club by choosing Option 1.

I know those that have had STs for say 15 years might think they should get priority over those that have only had theirs 2, but I think given none of us have been able to watch live football for 9 months and this is a new stadium, that shouldn't carry as much weight.

If you're lucky enough to be picked, you're not put back into the ballot again until everyone else has at least had the opportunity to go too (even if they turn their ticket down).

Ideally the club would email all ST holders first to ask who actually would/wouldn't want to go, as that removes the faff of having to redraw loads of tickets each time.
What about bubbles.
 

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The language surrounding when this current phase ends has not been very precise. I believe that the current lockdown began at 00.001 on Thursday 5th November and would last for 28 days - ie until midnight on 2nd December. Therefore stadiums could open on 3rd December. Doesn't make any difference to us (BFC) but the lack of clarity in announcements is frustrating.
 

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I know we're not going to be in our actual seats for these reduced capacity games but will the tickets be in the same stand? I'd actually prefer it if they weren't. Whilst I want to make my permanent home in the West Stand, I'd quite like the opportunity to see other views in our fantastic new home.
 

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Feel same but if your mates suddenly call to say they going it gets a bit sad. Presume the bars will be open.
Football is about seeing your mates. Often the 90mins of watching BFC is the worst part of the day, so being in a sterile stadium with no mates or atmosphere is not something for me. Lots of other things to do now, dangerous as now have different Saturday activities.
Also the constant negativity and sometimes fans Billy big b***ock*s attitude now makes me a occasional visitor to BFC social media.
 

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Football is about seeing your mates. Often the 90mins of watching BFC is the worst part of the day, so being in a sterile stadium with no mates or atmosphere is not something for me. Lots of other things to do now, dangerous as now have different Saturday activities.
Also the constant negativity and sometimes fans Billy big b***ock*s attitude now makes me a occasional visitor to BFC social media.
The atmosphere is what you make it.
 

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Football is about seeing your mates. Often the 90mins of watching BFC is the worst part of the day, so being in a sterile stadium with no mates or atmosphere is not something for me. Lots of other things to do now, dangerous as now have different Saturday activities.
Also the constant negativity and sometimes fans Billy big b***ock*s attitude now makes me a occasional visitor to BFC social media.
Will need a structure to break away from duties that I have been expected to do. Its scary how I feel.
 

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Random ballot for each game seems the only 'fair' way to me - it's such a limited number (I can't see Brentford being anything lower than tier 2 at best) that prioritising fan A over fan B seems itself too limiting and is a bit of a kick in the face of those that helped the club by choosing Option 1.

I know those that have had STs for say 15 years might think they should get priority over those that have only had theirs 2, but I think given none of us have been able to watch live football for 9 months and this is a new stadium, that shouldn't carry as much weight.

If you're lucky enough to be picked, you're not put back into the ballot again until everyone else has at least had the opportunity to go too (even if they turn their ticket down).

Ideally the club would email all ST holders first to ask who actually would/wouldn't want to go, as that removes the faff of having to redraw loads of tickets each time.
I know it’s going to be difficult, but with your random idea how would it work with a dad an two junior ( all season ticket holders). With your random idea you should be able to group together all of a family as one bubble. I think this was a suggestion in the past
 

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I won't be going until I've had a vaccine and l suspect a lot will be thinking the same. I'd also want to see the general picture esp the R rate
 

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I won't be going until I've had a vaccine and l suspect a lot will be thinking the same. I'd also want to see the general picture esp the R rate
Which is common sense but I think you’re in the minority. Most people just want to get back to normal and would run the risk.
 

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Which is common sense but I think you’re in the minority. Most people just want to get back to normal and would run the risk.
Conversation in our house tonight hasn't once considered the risk. Probably irresponsible of us tbh.
 

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London will be Tier 3

Almost certain based on current case numbers
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I know it’s going to be difficult, but with your random idea how would it work with a dad an two junior ( all season ticket holders). With your random idea you should be able to group together all of a family as one bubble. I think this was a suggestion in the past
I expect you will have to register interest as a bubble and you will go into the ballot on that basis.
 

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Conversation in our house tonight hasn't once considered the risk. Probably irresponsible of us tbh.
Same here. But, honestly, with the numbers involved, provided they can manage congestion around entrances, concourses, toilets etc I can't see that it's any riskier than walking down Brentford High Street and probably safer than a trip to the supermarket.

I'm in what is likely to be a Tier 1 area where I haven't personally heard of a single case. But I'll be quite relaxed about coming to a game with the measures that I'm sure will be in place. This isn't to disrespect those who feel differently.
 

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What about bubbles.
I suspect that bubbles may be difficult for 1,000 or 2,000 capacity except parent/child/household but may be achievable with 4,000.
 

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Which is common sense but I think you’re in the minority. Most people just want to get back to normal and would run the risk.
Depends on your age. I'm 69. I lost two friends to the virus who were younger than me.There's also the issue of possibly passing it on to vulnerable partners which would also be applicable to my partner. Not a straightforward situation.
 

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Which is common sense but I think you’re in the minority. Most people just want to get back to normal and would run the risk.
Maybe so but, from my perspective, the risk is far too high. I haven't gone through these eight months of sheltering just to take a punt on everything being OK. If I was 40 years younger perhaps I would think differently.
 

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London will be Tier 3

Almost certain based on current case numbers
I fear you're right. I expect the majority of areas will be tier 3 for a couple of week, eased a little for Christmas and then back up after.. Would be surprised (but delighted) if anyone gets into Lionel Road before New Year..
 

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The language surrounding when this current phase ends has not been very precise. I believe that the current lockdown began at 00.001 on Thursday 5th November and would last for 28 days - ie until midnight on 2nd December. Therefore stadiums could open on 3rd December. Doesn't make any difference to us (BFC) but the lack of clarity in announcements is frustrating.
I think that was the original plan but then Boris started banging on about the 2nd so they've had to adjust things..
 

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Which is common sense but I think you’re in the minority. Most people just want to get back to normal and would run the risk.
"Most" people eh. Is that a MORI poll you're quoting? 😊
 

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Which is common sense but I think you’re in the minority. Most people just want to get back to normal and would run the risk.
As we all have seen common sense isn't that common. I agree we want to get back to normal but I haven't seen anything to convince me anything has changed since day one. The virus is still prevalent. People are still dying. We do not have a vaccine. Look at the "rules". We can go in a pub, if we have a substantial meal or to put it another way the government do not consider it's ok to go into a pub for a drink. It doesn't make sense. When it's ok to have a drink before going into a full capacity stadium without wearing a bl00dy mask and bathing in bleach I'll join you. Keep safe. If you don't make it you'll be missed.
 

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A chart I saw earlier suggests it's probable that 2,000 will be able to attend at Fulham. So should be a few spare seats going there if anyone's desperate to see a game?
 

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Football is about seeing your mates. Often the 90mins of watching BFC is the worst part of the day, so being in a sterile stadium with no mates or atmosphere is not something for me. Lots of other things to do now, dangerous as now have different Saturday activities.
Also the constant negativity and sometimes fans Billy big b***ock*s attitude now makes me a occasional visitor to BFC social media.
Spot on. Personally can't see the point except for seeing inside the new stadium, so maybe one visit for me until we can all get in there.

I'd only let premium ST holders that stumped up in full before last Xmas, have the opportunity to attend as well. Only fair.
 

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Its a big step forward.

I can appreciate a fraction of capacity in attendance won't appeal to a cohort of supporters and I get it that many will want to wait for a vaccine.

But I think if done correctly, and I am confident it will be, it'll be safer than a trip to your local supermarket, particularly if you shop in Morrisons.
 

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Random ballot for each game seems the only 'fair' way to me - it's such a limited number (I can't see Brentford being anything lower than tier 2 at best) that prioritising fan A over fan B seems itself too limiting and is a bit of a kick in the face of those that helped the club by choosing Option 1.
Only those that ticked box one have a ST for this season so are the only ones who will be selected to go to the games.

it would make sense to do a quick survey monkey, yes/no, they already know if you are in the same family but you could answer another question and put both ST numbers on the response.
 

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Spot on. Personally can't see the point except for seeing inside the new stadium, so maybe one visit for me until we can all get in there.

I'd only let premium ST holders that stumped up in full before last Xmas, have the opportunity to attend as well. Only fair.
That is fair enough mate and each to his own, it certainly frees up more tickets for people like me who would watch a b team friendly with 20 people there. My boy and I can’t bloody wait to go.
 

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Definitely good news (and will cost me 100 quid for charity (y)), but lots of questions.

The Tier question is a good one, but also where did the 4000 come from, plucked from thin air again? It is being reported 50% of capacity up 4000K. So, 4000 in 8000 stadia is the same risk as 4000 in old Trafford...really?

I don't buy the going to the pub argument because they will be substantial meal or sitting table service only so not an issue. Also don't buy the transport argument because it is OK for more people to travel to work every day so what's the difference.

Anyway, looks like 1 game in 3 for the 11,000 (is that still correct) Brentford ST holders give or take, possibly 1 in 2 if some decide not to risk it.
It is not in the stadium that is the problem it is arrival, and leaving, but it is also the transport issue (I have read your post). There is bound to be unsafe crowding outside it is inevitable that will be the case with 4,000, but with more an even greater risk. This looks like a nod to the petition, and the debate in parliament. To be honest I am not sure if I wish to take the risk. Travel to work is an economic necessity, therefore, the risk of infection is balanced by economic need.
 

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I suppose the issue is going to be how are you going to get there and back None of us have done this before so don't have a mental map of how its likely to work out and how to minimise the risks.

Once in the stadium I'm sure it will be very much safety first.
 

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As a non-season ticket holder I still doubt I'll be able to go for a long while, if I can get to any game this season I'll count that as a win! Roll on August otherwise...
 

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As we all have seen common sense isn't that common. I agree we want to get back to normal but I haven't seen anything to convince me anything has changed since day one. The virus is still prevalent. People are still dying. We do not have a vaccine. Look at the "rules". We can go in a pub, if we have a substantial meal or to put it another way the government do not consider it's ok to go into a pub for a drink. It doesn't make sense. When it's ok to have a drink before going into a full capacity stadium without wearing a bl00dy mask and bathing in bleach I'll join you. Keep safe. If you don't make it you'll be missed.
My previous post was a comment on others attending, not myself. There’s a calculated risk in anything we do. What I was trying to put across is that a lot of people just want to see football and are prepared to gamble.
 

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Depends on your age. I'm 69. I lost two friends to the virus who were younger than me.There's also the issue of possibly passing it on to vulnerable partners which would also be applicable to my partner. Not a straightforward situation.
You are so right. One of the big problems that this virus has served up is the passing onto to others, especially the vulnerable. The initial feeling from myself about the announcement was that I would be happy to go if selected, but as I have had time to think about the wider implications it is probably going to be unlikely until I have the vaccine. My father in law is of an age with underlying health issues who I am providing some care/support for, obviously he will come first so my experience of LR will have to wait. There are some things in life more important than football, but I welcome the step forward especially for those supporters who will be attending games shortly.
 

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As a 75 year old Season Ticket Holder (Dug Out) From the previous talk about letting in fans I think my seat is blocked off for social distancing for players and staff.

The more I think about it I’m going to wait till I get a vaccine injection. It’s not so much about the numbers in the Stadium, it’s the grouping around outside the ground as there’s restrictions in space around the ground and it’s the numbers using public transport to and from the ground

Anyway we all have to wait till Thursday afternoon to find out what Tier London will be assigned to
 

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You are so right. One of the big problems that this virus has served up is the passing onto to others, especially the vulnerable. The initial feeling from myself about the announcement was that I would be happy to go if selected, but as I have had time to think about the wider implications it is probably going to be unlikely until I have the vaccine. My father in law is of an age with underlying health issues who I am providing some care/support for, obviously he will come first so my experience of LR will have to wait. There are some things in life more important than football, but I welcome the step forward especially for those supporters who will be attending games shortly.
...yep....personal choice....that's what this supposed return to stadia is all about for supporters and clubs alike I would argue.....but I do get the sense its been created as a feelgood factor......rather than any great thought given to logistics et al.....be very interested to see how clubs in different parts of the country work with this proposal.....as said before.....this possibly could all end in tiers.
 
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