Fans Back in Stadiums from Dec 2nd

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Which is common sense but I think you’re in the minority. Most people just want to get back to normal and would run the risk.
Got a feeling rebus that you would be surprised with the amount of fans who wont run the risk. Just think back to the spread of ages around you at GP............. Got a feeling we have a lot of ST holders who fall into the higher risk bracket.
 

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I won’t be going back until its safe for me as at my age it would be totally irresponsible to do so.I would have thought clubs would only let fans back who fall into the low risk category and tell fans with underlying health issues and the elderly to keep away.The pity is there are some very selfish people out there who won’t be told as we have seen over this COVID period.Let’s hope the vaccine is distributed quick and we can all get back to watching and filling LR.
 

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Football is about seeing your mates. Often the 90mins of watching BFC is the worst part of the day, so being in a sterile stadium with no mates or atmosphere is not something for me. Lots of other things to do now, dangerous as now have different Saturday activities.
Also the constant negativity and sometimes fans Billy big b***ock*s attitude now makes me a occasional visitor to BFC social media.
Very much agree mate. I am happy for those that are buzzing to get to LR. I am as well but under these conditions its not so appealing. Watching the Bees in a fantastic new ground with 2000 other people potentially all sitting in one stand looking at an empty ground with no atmosphere and away fans would be very weird.

I know it cant be helped but its just not the way i imagined seeing LR for the first time. No matter the opposition it would feel very pre season like.

A big part of the football for me is the whole day with the old man and mates. So with a limited 2000 i just cant see how they will get people going together. If thats the case and im on my tod then i think i will follow suit and wait it out until we are (eventually) at full capacity or close to it. Like yourself Saturdays have been filled and i im finding that i watch ifollow because its available not through necessity............. (never thought i would say that). I guess the fact we arent playing well is also a factor as to why im not enjoying it atm.

It will be interesting to see how they work out the bubbles and tiers. Its all a bit meh.
 

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I won’t be going back until its safe for me as at my age it would be totally irresponsible to do so.I would have thought clubs would only let fans back who fall into the low risk category and tell fans with underlying health issues and the elderly to keep away.The pity is there are some very selfish people out there who won’t be told as we have seen over this COVID period.Let’s hope the vaccine is distributed quick and we can all get back to watching and filling LR.
Spot on BB. And thats the crux of it. I know we love the bees but it shouldnt cloud peoples judgment. We havent even started vaccinations so as it stands going to the football will run the same risk as going to the shops or work.
 

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As a 75 year old Season Ticket Holder (Dug Out) From the previous talk about letting in fans I think my seat is blocked off for social distancing for players and staff.
As has been said previously, no one who gets a ticket will be sitting in “their seat”. They will be allocated at random around the stadium.

I doubt the whole ground will be open either and wouldn’t be surprised if all of the South Stand is closed to fans.
 

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My previous post was a comment on others attending, not myself. There’s a calculated risk in anything we do. What I was trying to put across is that a lot of people just want to see football and are prepared to gamble.
Hmmmm. You may wish to gamble with your own health but what about all those you subsequently come in contact with. Do they get a say as to whether you should gamble or not? As others have said, I think the main risks are with travel to/from the stadium and access into and out of rather than inside itself.
 

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I'm desperate to get back to watching the Bees especially as it is at our fantastic new stadium. However I am immuno suppressed and I am also a carer for my wife Jennifer, she has COPD ,Angina and Type 2 Diabetes. If we catch Covid it is pretty certain we will get a serious form of the disease with a pretty strong chance of death. So reluctantly I will have to wait until we are both vaccinated to take the chance. It has been a very depressing year for both of us having to isolate ourselves which will be exacerbated by knowing I could be there in normal circumstances but not now because of our medical conditions. Hopefully the club will allow me to continue to watch the Bees on Ifollow. Hope those who can will enjoy the experience in the new stadium. Up the Bees.
 

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Hmmmm. You may wish to gamble with your own health but what about all those you subsequently come in contact with. Do they get a say as to whether you should gamble or not? As others have said, I think the main risks are with travel to/from the stadium and access into and out of rather than inside itself.
Please read my post correctly. I was talking about others, not me.
 

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Hmmmm. You may wish to gamble with your own health but what about all those you subsequently come in contact with. Do they get a say as to whether you should gamble or not? As others have said, I think the main risks are with travel to/from the stadium and access into and out of rather than inside itself.
Let’s not start judging those who choose to go. If the authorities allow it, it’s a matter of personal choice.
 

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If my name is drawn I will pass the ticket on to my brother who is also a ST holder. He lives within 200 yards of LR. I have a three hour there and the same back on public transport.

I will go to see my local non league club that is within about one mile from me.
 

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Random ballot for each game seems the only 'fair' way to me - it's such a limited number (I can't see Brentford being anything lower than tier 2 at best) that prioritising fan A over fan B seems itself too limiting and is a bit of a kick in the face of those that helped the club by choosing Option 1.

I know those that have had STs for say 15 years might think they should get priority over those that have only had theirs 2, but I think given none of us have been able to watch live football for 9 months and this is a new stadium, that shouldn't carry as much weight.

If you're lucky enough to be picked, you're not put back into the ballot again until everyone else has at least had the opportunity to go too (even if they turn their ticket down).

Ideally the club would email all ST holders first to ask who actually would/wouldn't want to go, as that removes the faff of having to redraw loads of tickets each time.
Ballot yes but think if you lucky for one game you shouldn't be in ballot for next. ?
 
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If my name is drawn I will pass the ticket on to my brother who is also a ST holder. He lives within 200 yards of LR. I have a three hour there and the same back on public transport.

I will go to see my local non league club that is within about one mile from me.
That's cheating.!!!
 

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Which is common sense but I think you’re in the minority. Most people just want to get back to normal and would run the risk.
of course , why should i have to go to work but not football . Its madness i can go to East Thurrocks tiny ground but not a brand new stadium
 

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I fear you're right. I expect the majority of areas will be tier 3 for a couple of week, eased a little for Christmas and then back up after.. Would be surprised (but delighted) if anyone gets into Lionel Road before New Year..
i reckon new tier 2 .They wouldn't have made all this bother if hardly anyone could go
 

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If the government says it's ok to go to football then it must be safe, right? 😷
They are saying its safe if you follow the guidelines re social distancing. :sorted:
 

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Let’s not start judging those who choose to go. If the authorities allow it, it’s a matter of personal choice.
I disagree. Would it right to visit the bookmakers with somebody else's wallet? Too many people leaning on the word 'allow' again instead of the word 'safe'. I've been judging alright. And I won't be forgetting. The one positive over the past few months is that it has taught me a hell of a lot about human nature and behaviour. However ugly that might be sometimes.
 

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It's a brilliant strategy to say you can go to football when you've all stopped being naughty so wouldn't surprise me at all to see lots of Tier 3 areas.
Even if we are Tier 2 is it wrong/against the law for someone to attend who lives in a Tier 3 area? Would/could this be managed by the club?
 

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I disagree. Would it right to visit the bookmakers with somebody else's wallet? Too many people leaning on the word 'allow' again instead of the word 'safe'. I've been judging alright. And I won't be forgetting. The one positive over the past few months is that it has taught me a hell of a lot about human nature and behaviour. However ugly that might be sometimes.
Is that a fair analogy? What if you have someone who lives alone, works from home and has had very little contact for the last eight months? Would it be acceptable for them to go?
 

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Is that a fair analogy? What if you have someone who lives alone, works from home and has had very little contact for the last eight months? Would it be acceptable for them to go?
Clearly with the recent update the government has put the onus on the individual to decide for themselves. Personal choice rightly or wrongly, not for people to decide on what course of action others should or should not take.
 

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As has been said previously, no one who gets a ticket will be sitting in “their seat”. They will be allocated at random around the stadium.

I doubt the whole ground will be open either and wouldn’t be surprised if all of the South Stand is closed to fans.
Not quite, they will try and keep the Dugout in the Dugout or at least nearby.
 

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Spot on BB. And thats the crux of it. I know we love the bees but it shouldnt cloud peoples judgment. We havent even started vaccinations so as it stands going to the football will run the same risk as going to the shops or work.
Far safer than shops
 

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If my name is drawn I will pass the ticket on to my brother who is also a ST holder. He lives within 200 yards of LR. I have a three hour there and the same back on public transport.

I will go to see my local non league club that is within about one mile from me.
I'm not sure you will have the option to do this. Tracing all attendees will be part of this and the person that is allocated the ticket will need to be the one that shows up
 

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I'm not sure you will have the option to do this. Tracing all attendees will be part of this and the person that is allocated the ticket will need to be the one that shows up
I would like to think so but you have a big assumption there.
 

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I'm not sure you will have the option to do this. Tracing all attendees will be part of this and the person that is allocated the ticket will need to be the one that shows up
As mentioned on TalkSport yesterday, I wonder how long after the first tickets are allocated, will we see the first ticket tout stories appearing.......
 

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Is that a fair analogy? What if you have someone who lives alone, works from home and has had very little contact for the last eight months? Would it be acceptable for them to go?
In my honest opinion, no. That person would have to get there, get in and out again and then get home. That is how disease spreads. Yes it can happen in a supermarket or any essential journey, but the key to controlling this is to only do what's necessary. Not what we're 'allowed' to do. Businesses and jobs have and will be lost and that's truly awful. But I'm one of those who say life and health comes first. But I'll have to leave it there because I have a history of getting too involved in this. I try not to bite these days, but every so often I have a little nibble and risk the diet going out of the window. Stay safe mate. ;)
 

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I'm 62. Still teach almost full time and regularly travel to and from Chichester then spend the day around kids and adults with a mask on for much of it ( as I'm expected to do). I think I will be as safe driving to LR, and sitting in a socially distanced seat. I don't think I'll pose more of a threat to others than I do at the moment. I'm looking forward to going even if it's only with another 1999 people. I don't look forward to much at the moment so this would be a bonus!!
 

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I would like to think so but you have a big assumption there.
I assume you mean in practical terms and I agree with you but I expect it will be part of the terms you agree to when you accept the ticket. I wouldn't be surprised if Season Ticket holders found to breach this put their ST's at risk
 

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I assume you mean in practical terms and I agree with you but I expect it will be part of the terms you agree to when you accept the ticket. I wouldn't be surprised if Season Ticket holders found to breach this put their ST's at risk
Agree with you, ticket allocation needs to be under stringent control. Hopefully the club will make a statement soon (once our tier is confirmed) to clarify exactly how ticket allocation will be managed, and the controls that will be in place.
 

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Ballot yes but think if you lucky for one game you shouldn't be in ballot for next. ?
That’s exactly what I said isn’t it?

Or if by that you meant you’re questioning my reasoning for saying that - yes because otherwise you run the risk of one fan being lucky enough to get picked for 4 or 5 games in December when another might get 0, which isn’t fair.
 

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That’s exactly what I said isn’t it?

Or if by that you meant you’re questioning my reasoning for saying that - yes because otherwise you run the risk of one fan being lucky enough to get picked for 4 or 5 games in December when another might get 0, which isn’t fair.
sorry mate , i didn't read it all. Yes in total agreement
 

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Apologies. I should have said that some people may wish to gamble but what about those they subsequently come in contact with.
So are you saying we should all ignore every lock down rule and we should all lock up in doors indefinitely until everyone is immune and it is 100% safe to go out?

A many have pointed out, it is just as risky to go to Tesco's, to work, to the pub or to the park, do you think people are gambling with others lives when they do that and should stay indoors instead?

The simple answer is, if you feel all these things are to risky then stay isolated, we won't judge you, but don't expect everyone else to do the same when they are allowed to go out.
 

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As mentioned on TalkSport yesterday, I wonder how long after the first tickets are allocated, will we see the first ticket tout stories appearing.......
You'd have to be pretty loopy to give a tout your SEASON TICKET 🤦🏻‍♂️
 

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Next category - ballot of the over 70s and those with more than five Brentford-related arrests. Draw to take place on London Live by Natalie Sawyer and Bradley Walsh.
 

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Agree with you, ticket allocation needs to be under stringent control. Hopefully the club will make a statement soon (once our tier is confirmed) to clarify exactly how ticket allocation will be managed, and the controls that will be in place.
You'd have to be pretty loopy to give a tout your SEASON TICKET 🤦🏻‍♂️
Except you won't be physically handing over a ST. It will likely be a print at home job for these games
 

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I disagree. Would it right to visit the bookmakers with somebody else's wallet? Too many people leaning on the word 'allow' again instead of the word 'safe'. I've been judging alright. And I won't be forgetting. The one positive over the past few months is that it has taught me a hell of a lot about human nature and behaviour. However ugly that might be sometimes.
 

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Except you won't be physically handing over a ST. It will likely be a print at home job for these games
That print at home or phone QR is linked to your ST.

So, yes, you would be handing your ST to a tout.
 

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I disagree. Would it right to visit the bookmakers with somebody else's wallet? Too many people leaning on the word 'allow' again instead of the word 'safe'. I've been judging alright. And I won't be forgetting. The one positive over the past few months is that it has taught me a hell of a lot about human nature and behaviour. However ugly that might be sometimes.

Lets not turn this into another divisive thread. It has been awful for vulnerable people but at least they can lock up indoors and largely stay safe, those who have had their lifetime's work destroyed, jobs lost, business go bust, mental health issues and cancer treatments cancelled have had it bad too and been given no choice whatsoever. 99% of people have largely protected the 1% so a bit of respect would be nice for those of us who are not vulnerable who have given up or lost everything to help protect you.
 

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Stone me, some seriously polarised views on here. For what it's worth, if i can go, I will. As somebody above said, if we are "allowed" to go to work, then presumably if those same authorities say we can go to the footie too, then why not. I will take all the recommended precautions, and have absolute respect for anybody who declines for all the obvious reasons. I am my mid-60s, by the way, but healthy (I think!) and try to balance prudent behaviour with such 'normal' activities as contribute to my mental well-being.
 

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That’s exactly what I said isn’t it?

Or if by that you meant you’re questioning my reasoning for saying that - yes because otherwise you run the risk of one fan being lucky enough to get picked for 4 or 5 games in December when another might get 0, which isn’t fair.
......mate.....fairness goes out the window.....when greed comes to town.
 

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......mate.....fairness goes out the window.....when greed comes to town.
not me , i would massively benefit from TAPS but think it should be done on a ballot
 

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That print at home or phone QR is linked to your ST.

So, yes, you would be handing your ST to a tout.
If you mean tracing it back to you then yes but I expect the code will be a one off per match until full capacity
 

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I thought the 'streaming events' required not only a 'ticket' but ID as well. Can anyone confirm the process?
 
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