Fans Back in Stadiums from Dec 2nd

[amersfoort bee]

My reply to the BFC survey was to say later in the season. Not ready to go yet due to difficulties in getting to the ground.

 

[beesbees_bfc]

You think being young fit and healthy makes you invulnerable? How do you account for the number of footballers who’ve caught it?

Wasn’t his point that him being young, fit and healthy reduced the chance of him having anything more than asymptomatic or mild case rather than reducing his chance of catching it.

In which case, your footballers example would back up his assertions not contradict them...how many footballers have had cases that weren’t asymptomatic or mild?

 

[johndub]

Wasn’t his point that him being young, fit and healthy reduced the chance of him having anything more than asymptomatic or mild case rather than reducing his chance of catching it.

In which case, your footballers example would back up his assertions not contradict them...how many footballers have had cases that weren’t asymptomatic or mild?

I think it’s for him to make his own point and I think, with respect, that you have failed to understand my point. If he gets it and is asymptomatic, he can still pass it on to someone else . That’s my concern.

 

[Adam]

You can cater for the ones that change their mind and don't want come anymore

But not the other way around.

I guess I agree and that’s why the survey is a bit silly IMO. If I were the club I’d assume everyone is in and let them opt out on a game by game basis. And when they do opt out they go back down to the bottom of the priority list and work their way back up, as with those that can’t make it for other reasons.

People might not be comfortable attending now, but it’s a rapidly changing situation and they may feel more comfortable going in a few months while the capacity is still being capped at that point. We shouldn’t punish people for wanting to stay safe in the short term, especially as it’s winter.

 

[johndub]

I think it’s for him to make his own point and I think, with respect, that you have failed to understand my point. If he gets it and is asymptomatic, he can still pass it on to someone else . That’s my concern.

Apologies to M’head for referring to M’head as ‘him’. Sounds offensive. No offence intended.

 

[beesbees_bfc]

I think it’s for him to make his own point and I think, with respect, that you have failed to understand my point. If he gets it and is asymptomatic, he can still pass it on to someone else . That’s my concern.

I clearly did miss you point, probably because your original post doesn’t refer to asymptomatic passing it on in any way.

 

[dougieb]

As soon as allowed I will be going.

 

[AB]

I guess I agree and that’s why the survey is a bit silly IMO. If I were the club I’d assume everyone is in and let them opt out on a game by game basis. And when they do opt out they go back down to the bottom of the priority list and work their way back up, as with those that can’t make it for other reasons.

People might not be comfortable attending now, but it’s a rapidly changing situation and they may feel more comfortable going in a few months while the capacity is still being capped at that point. We shouldn’t punish people for wanting to stay safe in the short term, especially as it’s winter.

I’m not sure it is silly. It is possible we might get fans into the ground as early as Saturday week against Blackburn. Why make assumptions when the survey can give a good indication of what demand there is right now from STHs? If half the respondents say now they’d prefer to wait until later in the season and London is in Tier 1, the club can plan on the basis that almost all STH who currently would like to get in the ground will probably be able to do so without there being an allocation method more complex than making tickets available to apply for. If almost everyone says they would come on 5th December, they can design some form of allocation ballot or indication of preferred games.

We often moan on here that the club is a bit slow to act so I’ll credit them for having taken the initiative here.

 

[johndub]

I clearly did miss you point, probably because your original post doesn’t refer to asymptomatic passing it on in any way.

I’ll spell it out for you next time.

 

[Jay Bee]

Tough sh*t should be the reply. They can’t cater for flip floppers.

You can cater for the ones that change their mind and don't want come anymore

But not the other way around.

I don't think this is fair.

What about vulnerable people that do not think it's an acceptable risk now, but would be happy to attend after receiving a vaccination? I spoke to one such 75 year old after the game last night.
What about people who find out they are in tier 3 tomorrow (let's assume London is tier 2 and stays there) but then find they are in tier 1 or 2 in January/February?
Each of these groups will have to say no now and should not take up an allocation that others can use, but they will have a good reason for doing so.
Good on BIAS for consulting about this. I am unsure whether the survey allowed for this type of situation to be communicated but I think it's wrong to suggest that everyone can make a commitment and must stick to it.

 

[hobbsy]

My idea is you would have a bunch of games, 4 or 5. Everyone registers yes or no for those games.

After that bunch is complete you can go and ask again, and those that had said no don't get an opportunity until the next bunch.

 

[nick logan]

Email/survey about fans at LR now received......

i haven't got one , should i be worried ?

 

[hobbsy]

i haven't got one , should i be worried ?

Are you Dugout?

 

[nick logan]

Are you Dugout?

yes mate

 

[Banana]

yes mate

That's been covered above then.

 

[nick logan]

That's been covered above then.

thanks , sorry panicked before reading rest of thread

 

[Judio1999]

The Corporates are going to get first choice of tickets according to the Telegraph today (Not talking about Brentford)

 

[WARFIELD BEE]

Only one option as to how you would get there, at the moment I am unsure which.

 

[amersfoort bee]

Only one option as to how you would get there, at the moment I am unsure which.

If you click the other option in the travel box one goes to a section in which one can type anything you want.

 

[hobbsy]

The Corporates are going to get first choice of tickets according to the Telegraph today (Not talking about Brentford)

We have been assured that Premium Ticket holders cannot buy tickets in GA Areas.

However that doesn't mean that they couldn't sell lots of tickets to Premium's, I'm not sure how many socially distanced you could get in though. Just to note the calculations from the club we have seen haven't mentioned that at all.

 

[hobbsy]

Only one option as to how you would get there, at the moment I am unsure which.

If there is a chance you will drive, then put that down. The club are trying to source parking.

 

[Banana]

We have been assured that Premium Ticket holders cannot buy tickets in GA Areas.

However that doesn't mean that they couldn't sell lots of tickets to Premium's, I'm not sure how many socially distanced you could get in though. Just to note the calculations from the club we have seen haven't mentioned that at all.

Ummm, if they are keeping people in their particular areas (and noting that dugout seats have been omitted from this exercise), it looks like the dugout will come out relatively poorly then - considering that a lot of seats in the dugout have had to become part of the Red Zone...

 

[Banana]

If there is a chance you will drive, then put that down. The club are trying to source parking.

Will putting "drive" down impact your chances of securing a ticket????

 

[Brentford_till_die]

Will putting "drive" down impact your chances of securing a ticket????

why would it?

 

[Adam]

My idea is you would have a bunch of games, 4 or 5. Everyone registers yes or no for those games.

After that bunch is complete you can go and ask again, and those that had said no don't get an opportunity until the next bunch.

That’s a much better idea IMO.

 

[Banana]

why would it?

Because there's a finite number of parking spaces!

 

[horshambees]

I can do Reading on the 19th December.

The Corporates are going to get first choice of tickets according to the Telegraph today (Not talking about Brentford)

Always felt that would be the case.
Get those into the lounges to spend money on a menu rather than the fella who smuggles in a Big Mac.

 

[Brentford_till_die]

Because there's a finite number of parking spaces!

well we dont have to use the parking the club source, there is still street parking and other car parks!

 

[Delbee]

Ummm, if they are keeping people in their particular areas (and noting that dugout seats have been omitted from this exercise), it looks like the dugout will come out relatively poorly then - considering that a lot of seats in the dugout have had to become part of the Red Zone...

As a Dug Out Season Ticket Holder, there’s a number near and around the actual Teams Dug Outs that have been cordoned of for the teams coaches and medical teams . So there will be a reduced number, I think my seat is in that cordoned area

 

[hobbsy]

As a Dug Out Season Ticket Holder, there’s a number near and around the actual Teams Dug Outs that have been cordoned of for the teams coaches and medical teams . So there will be a reduced number, I think my seat is in that cordoned area

Yes that is what Banana refers to as the Red Zone.

 

[nick logan]

As a Dug Out Season Ticket Holder, there’s a number near and around the actual Teams Dug Outs that have been cordoned of for the teams coaches and medical teams . So there will be a reduced number, I think my seat is in that cordoned area

my seat is in the cordoned off area but as only 2000 allowed in it doesnt really matter where your seat is i guess. surely they will just choose 2000 seats that have plenty of space between them ?

 

[Banana]

well we dont have to use the parking the club source, there is still street parking and other car parks!

I know that. You know that. But if (as has been indicated above by hobbsy) the club thinks it has to source parking places for everyone coming by car then that might influence who gets allocated a tickets. That was my point.

 

[hobbsy]

my seat is in the cordoned off area but as only 2000 allowed in it doesnt really matter where your seat is i guess. surely they will just choose 2000 seats that have plenty of space between them ?

Yes and don't expect to be in the stand where your ticket is. Except for the dugout which I think they are trying to keep there or as near as possible.

 

[Banana]

Yes and don't expect to be in the stand where your ticket is. Except for the dugout which I think they are trying to keep there or as near as possible.

Not sure why. The bar won't be open.

 

[hobbsy]

Not sure why. The bar won't be open.

Are they nicer seats?

 

[hobbsy]

so we can spend money in our special bar

No food or drink on sale

 

[Vid]

Ticked “Not now maybe later.” The rules will probably change after Christmas when we have another lock down.

 

[nick logan]

No food or drink on sale

makes sense

 

[Banana]

Are they nicer seats?

Ah. Possibly.

 

[hobbsy]

makes sense

Keeps the concourse areas clear for toilet goers only.

 

[nick logan]

Ticked “Not now maybe later.” The rules will probably change after Christmas when we have another lock down.

one more chance of me getting one , cheers Vid

 

[Brentford_till_die]

I know that. You know that. But if (as has been indicated above by hobbsy) the club thinks it has to source parking places for everyone coming by car then that might influence who gets allocated a tickets. That was my point.

Yes I saw hobbsy post, it said the club are trying to source parking. Nothing about everyone coming by car has to park there or finite spaces so your chances could be reduced.

 

[Banana]

Yes I saw hobbsy post, it said the club are trying to source parking. Nothing about everyone coming by car has to park there or finite spaces so your chances could be reduced.

Sigh

Hobbsy wrote:

If there is a chance you will drive, then put that down. The club are trying to source parking.

This logically suggests to me that the two factors of "driving" and "parking" are linked. Otherwise i) why would the club be asking, and ii) why would hobbsy, having met the club on this very issue, be asking for those driving to say that they are driving? Further, hobbsy justifies this by writing in the very next sentence that this is because the club are "trying to source parking"?

I have sought to clarify that because, as I said above, I agree with you that people can park elsewhere

So hold you horses please.

 

['Ayes B]

Sigh

Hobbsy wrote:


This logically suggests to me that the two factors of "driving" and "parking" are linked. Otherwise i) why would the club be asking, and ii) why would hobbsy, having met the club on this very issue, be asking for those driving to say that they are driving? Further, hobbsy justifies this by writing in the very next sentence that this is because the club are "trying to source parking"?

I have sought to clarify that because, as I said above, I agree with you that people can park elsewhere

So hold you horses please.

I ticked driving as i would like to be dropped off

 

[Bixer]

So is the best option to just lie and say you'll walk?

 

[Guildford Bee]

So is the best option to just lie and say you'll walk?

Ha. I was wondering how to answer that question as well. In the end I said drive although it may well be train.

 

[BFC1997]

So is the best option to just lie and say you'll walk?

I did wonder this. In the end I was honest.

 

[Gee Bee]

Will putting "drive" down impact your chances of securing a ticket????

I put it down as I consider driving is reducing my interactions getting to the stadium. I'll park in Ealing Road and walk up. There wont be anywhere near the same volume of cars as you'd get on a match day with 11,000 in GP.

 

[liverbee]

While I'm excited about going, the competitive element doesn't excite me. At least the televised games should improve with a few thousand in the stadium.

 

[nick logan]

any other dugouters got e-mail yet ?