Fans Forum 1 August 2016 6:30pm to 8pm

[wibs]

Well quite!

Funniest response I've seen in a long time!! Lol lol

 

[Delbee]

Loved the question about getting a relegation bonus for Button. lol

Well said Phil Giles

 

[ruislip bee]

I've got an idea. Stop passing the microphone up and down the table all evening.

Agreed but why the hell didn't PG sit in the middle?

 

[super J]

Didn't take any notes but from memory the main discussion points were:

- General consensus from panel was top 6 was realistic target but aware of what we are up against. Based on previous forums i've been to, I found this a pleasant admission where previously people were against setting specific targets.

- Giles said option to recall Jota during the season, personal issues still ongoing so can't comment too much. Had a baby in Spain so best if he stays for now. I didn't get the impression we'd see him this season.

- Rasmus said we lost out financially with Judge's injury, no real help with insurance etc and likely he would have been sold for big money during the summer anyway. Hoping he'd be back before Christmas.

- Crown said Lionel Road was progressing but admitted it was a slow burner. Mentioned some sort of CDV agreement had been issued last week by council which was another hurdle cleared. Said he remembers writing blog back in 2013 where he said we'd be in ground by 2016 so didn't want to put a timescale on it. Devlin later said hoped to get on site after Christmas but 2019 was now more realistic start date.

- Smith still not to pick a captain, lots made about being a leader, vocal, etc but most important to him is who he thinks will play all 46 games.

- Smith said he took penalties as a player as a centre back but said his view is it should be strikers to add to their goal tally, suggestion therefore that it will be Hogan on penalties

- Smith said more signings possible before Saturday, possibly a striker but not looking for more centre mids, we have 4 already so 5 too many.

- Attempts made to sign Canos but was always out of our budget when competing with bigger clubs. Likewise Pritchard too expensive so won't be looking to sign.

- Crown mocked Holloway's relegation prediction and denied we were regressing. Ankersen also said that comparing us to this time last year we are much improved, particularly atmosphere around the training ground

-Giles said that visitors were driving round the training ground causing trouble and also people were watching training sessions who shouldn't have been, likely scouts, etc which caused closure of training ground.

- Devlin said no update on TicketZone scandal, no contact in over a year. Police investigation ongoing but ticketzone still not accepting responsibility.

- Devlin also said looking at plans for electric scoreboard and advertising, legal settlement agreed with pitch company over last seasons farce

- Devlin spoke about the kit, said Benham wants black shorts and socks but flexibility on shirt. General feedback on home kit was very positive compared to previous years

- Devlin said 5500 season tickets sold which was slightly less than last year but confident that once half season tickets, etc were included the figure would be similar if not more

- Smith suggested club could have blocked Vibe going to Olympics but Vibe was desperate to go so couldn't stand in his way. Admits he will be a loss.

- Some plans in place to commemorate 50 years since qpr takeover bid but nothing finalised. Said they would consider marking anglo Italian cup anniversary too.

Overall a good evening, agree Rasmus very quiet compared to last year but Giles came across better and positively. Smith seemed very natural and a good sense of humour.

 

[daddybee]

Like Dean Smith. Comes over as very positive.

He's getting sacked in the morning

 

[amersfoort bee]

Didn't take any notes but from memory the main discussion points were:

- General consensus from panel was top 6 was realistic target but aware of what we are up against. Based on previous forums i've been to, I found this a pleasant admission where previously people were against setting specific targets.

- Giles said option to recall Jota during the season, personal issues still ongoing so can't comment too much. Had a baby in Spain so best if he stays for now. I didn't get the impression we'd see him this season.

- Rasmus said we lost out financially with Judge's injury, no real help with insurance etc and likely he would have been sold for big money during the summer anyway. Hoping he'd be back before Christmas.

- Crown said Lionel Road was progressing but admitted it was a slow burner. Mentioned some sort of CDV agreement had been issued last week by council which was another hurdle cleared. Said he remembers writing blog back in 2013 where he said we'd be in ground by 2016 so didn't want to put a timescale on it. Devlin later said hoped to get on site after Christmas but 2019 was now more realistic start date.

- Smith still not to pick a captain, lots made about being a leader, vocal, etc but most important to him is who he thinks will play all 46 games.

- Smith said he took penalties as a player as a centre back but said his view is it should be strikers to add to their goal tally, suggestion therefore that it will be Hogan on penalties

- Smith said more signings possible before Saturday, possibly a striker but not looking for more centre mids, we have 4 already so 5 too many.

- Attempts made to sign Canos but was always out of our budget when competing with bigger clubs. Likewise Pritchard too expensive so won't be looking to sign.

- Crown mocked Holloway's relegation prediction and denied we were regressing. Ankersen also said that comparing us to this time last year we are much improved, particularly atmosphere around the training ground

-Giles said that visitors were driving round the training ground causing trouble and also people were watching training sessions who shouldn't have been, likely scouts, etc which caused closure of training ground.

- Devlin said no update on TicketZone scandal, no contact in over a year. Police investigation ongoing but ticketzone still not accepting responsibility.

- Devlin also said looking at plans for electric scoreboard and advertising, legal settlement agreed with pitch company over last seasons farce

- Devlin spoke about the kit, said Benham wants black shorts and socks but flexibility on shirt. General feedback on home kit was very positive compared to previous years

- Devlin said 5500 season tickets sold which was slightly less than last year but confident that once half season tickets, etc were included the figure would be similar if not more

- Smith suggested club could have blocked Vibe going to Olympics but Vibe was desperate to go so couldn't stand in his way. Admits he will be a loss.

- Some plans in place to commemorate 50 years since qpr takeover bid but nothing finalised. Said they would consider marking anglo Italian cup anniversary too.

Overall a good evening, agree Rasmus very quiet compared to last year but Giles came across better and positively. Smith seemed very natural and a good sense of humour.

Thanks very much.

 

[ChertseyBee]

Thanks super J, sounds like Ryan Woods could be captain from that.

 

[jbee]

Thanks super J, sounds like Ryan Woods could be captain from that.

Yeah I like Harlee but from that answer it sounds as if to give him the captaincy would be DS basically guaranteeing him a starting sport for the rest of the season and I can't see that he deserves that given the competition. Woods is really the only one who is a) pretty much a guaranteed starter b)not completely new to the club c)not too injury prone

 

[Leonardo]

Nothing much learned from it apart from Phil Giles is a lot more comfortable talking on a panel.

 

[Banana]

Didn't take any notes but from memory the main discussion points were:

- General consensus from panel was top 6 was realistic target but aware of what we are up against. Based on previous forums i've been to, I found this a pleasant admission where previously people were against setting specific targets.

- Giles said option to recall Jota during the season, personal issues still ongoing so can't comment too much. Had a baby in Spain so best if he stays for now. I didn't get the impression we'd see him this season.

- Rasmus said we lost out financially with Judge's injury, no real help with insurance etc and likely he would have been sold for big money during the summer anyway. Hoping he'd be back before Christmas.

- Crown said Lionel Road was progressing but admitted it was a slow burner. Mentioned some sort of CDV agreement had been issued last week by council which was another hurdle cleared. Said he remembers writing blog back in 2013 where he said we'd be in ground by 2016 so didn't want to put a timescale on it. Devlin later said hoped to get on site after Christmas but 2019 was now more realistic start date.

- Smith still not to pick a captain, lots made about being a leader, vocal, etc but most important to him is who he thinks will play all 46 games.

- Smith said he took penalties as a player as a centre back but said his view is it should be strikers to add to their goal tally, suggestion therefore that it will be Hogan on penalties

- Smith said more signings possible before Saturday, possibly a striker but not looking for more centre mids, we have 4 already so 5 too many.

- Attempts made to sign Canos but was always out of our budget when competing with bigger clubs. Likewise Pritchard too expensive so won't be looking to sign.

- Crown mocked Holloway's relegation prediction and denied we were regressing. Ankersen also said that comparing us to this time last year we are much improved, particularly atmosphere around the training ground

-Giles said that visitors were driving round the training ground causing trouble and also people were watching training sessions who shouldn't have been, likely scouts, etc which caused closure of training ground.

- Devlin said no update on TicketZone scandal, no contact in over a year. Police investigation ongoing but ticketzone still not accepting responsibility.

- Devlin also said looking at plans for electric scoreboard and advertising, legal settlement agreed with pitch company over last seasons farce

- Devlin spoke about the kit, said Benham wants black shorts and socks but flexibility on shirt. General feedback on home kit was very positive compared to previous years

- Devlin said 5500 season tickets sold which was slightly less than last year but confident that once half season tickets, etc were included the figure would be similar if not more

- Smith suggested club could have blocked Vibe going to Olympics but Vibe was desperate to go so couldn't stand in his way. Admits he will be a loss.

- Some plans in place to commemorate 50 years since qpr takeover bid but nothing finalised. Said they would consider marking anglo Italian cup anniversary too.

Overall a good evening, agree Rasmus very quiet compared to last year but Giles came across better and positively. Smith seemed very natural and a good sense of humour.

You forgot that MD said there was too much white in the home kit, but he was trying to sell more :scratch:

 

[TW3Bee]

Thanks for the notes super j

 

[Fleet John]

Devlin later said hoped to get on site after Christmas but 2019 was now more realistic start date.

Won't start building till 2019?

 

[Holysmit]

Just watching the video on youtube. The club might want to edit the start where Ramus is talking to cliff. It sounds like they are talking about a transfer and Rasmus says this was the most crazy guy ever and another five minutes and I could have punched him in the face. Not perfect sound but what it sounded like to me!!! From about 2 minutes 20 seconds in.

 

[ChertseyBee]

Just watching the video on youtube. The club might want to edit the start where Ramus is talking to cliff. It sounds like they are talking about a transfer and Rasmus says this was the most crazy guy ever and another five minutes and I could have punched him in the face. Not perfect sound but what it sounded like to me!!! From about 2 minutes 20 seconds in.

They are both on the board of Midtjylland so maybe it was to do with that club

 

[Beesfan]

You forgot that MD said there was too much white in the home kit, but he was trying to sell more :scratch:

This was odd, its almost as if they didn't see it themselves until it was released!!

 

[Banana]

Just watching the video on youtube. The club might want to edit the start where Ramus is talking to cliff. It sounds like they are talking about a transfer and Rasmus says this was the most crazy guy ever and another five minutes and I could have punched him in the face. Not perfect sound but what it sounded like to me!!! From about 2 minutes 20 seconds in.

Shhhhhhhh. Best bit of the night

 

[Keighley Bee]

Won't start building till 2019?

The hope was to start building in the new year, and with a 2 year build, that would mean the first game would be 2019. That's how I understood it all anyway.

 

[Peter G]

Firstly, I didn't miss the train. I caught my bus from Hampton but didn't expect Richmond to be totally gridlocked because of road closures in Petersham!! Ditched the bus, eventually caught a cab and arrived about five minutes late, two hours after leaving home!
Hence on arrival the only available seat was at the end and with only one mic had to pass it back and forth. Far from ideal. Therefore apologies to all both on the top table and the fans in attendance.

 

[Lionel Bart-At]

Firstly, I didn't miss the train. I caught my bus from Hampton but didn't expect Richmond to be totally gridlocked because of road closures in Petersham!! Ditched the bus, eventually caught a cab and arrived about five minutes late, two hours after leaving home!
Hence on arrival the only available seat was at the end and with only one mic had to pass it back and forth. Far from ideal. Therefore apologies to all both on the top table and the fans in attendance.

First class job as always, Peter. Loved your impassionate chairing of the event... and your occasional impassioned interjections e.g. about how far the club has come in such a short time (from your insider perspective). Thanks from a genuine fan to a genuine fan for all you do for all of us!

 

[Holysmit]

They are both on the board of Midtjylland so maybe it was to do with that club

I think it was the Sisto transfer. From listening a bit more sounds like they have add ons for appearances and goals for around 500K each!

 

[SQUELCH]

good player, bout time he came to GP

 

[Invipai]

He starts by mentioning 'the Spanish club' so pretty sure it's indeed a FCM thing!

 

[beefy]

Interesting to hear one permanent signing their hopeful of. After the lack of talk about needing a striker could be Watkins?

 

[Cham]

He starts by mentioning 'the Spanish club' so pretty sure it's indeed a FCM thing!

Yep FCM sold Sisto to Celta Vigo for 5 mil plus add ons

 

[Banana]

Firstly, I didn't miss the train. I caught my bus from Hampton but didn't expect Richmond to be totally gridlocked because of road closures in Petersham!! Ditched the bus, eventually caught a cab and arrived about five minutes late, two hours after leaving home!
Hence on arrival the only available seat was at the end and with only one mic had to pass it back and forth. Far from ideal. Therefore apologies to all both on the top table and the fans in attendance.

What was "interesting" (if you can put it that way!) is that your vocals were perfectly readable on the youtube feed without the mic - unless the rest of the panel. Not sure why that was but there was little need to pass to mic to you only to have it.....anyway you get the idea

Oh and perhaps if we start it at a reasonable time for people to get there from work, then perhaps the planes/trains/automobiles/bus won't factor into it next time....

 

[bees66]

Yep FCM sold Sisto to Celta Vigo for 5 mil plus add ons

you could hear that the fee was 5M as Cliff Crown said it wasn't much to Rasmus over the mic.. There getting in Rafael van der Vaart as the repalcement..

 

[Banana]

Hence on arrival the only available seat was at the end and with only one mic had to pass it back and forth. Far from ideal. Therefore apologies to all both on the top table and the fans in attendance.

Having reviewed the evidence you are bang to rights. Upon your arrival, both Phil G and the microphone guy suggested that you sit in the middle

 

[Herbert]

Nice to see it only took to the 2nd " question " to have a good old moan about how poor the friendlies aha e been and demanding more from them.
Not finished there.
Later someone had to have a good old grunt about about the Oxford game, yes the ****in Oxford game in the league cup nearly a year ago to the day and before Smith even joined the club. And how little effort or care our players put in, the question to that being how can "we" be reassured to not see that again. **** me, those sort of performances used to be consistent with us.
Someone actually asked if the club are going to have any celebrations to our Anglo-Italian participation 25 years ago. Have you really turned up to ask that.
Does Ankersen have to explain our how BFC's scouting works at every fans forum ?

Besides that. Some decent answers given to some decent questions. The clubs ambition for this season,Jota and the ground to name 3.

 

[Banana]

OK it's true. "Devo" actually blamed Matthew Benham for the kit. Apparently because the man that has ploughed in nigh-on £100m into the club and, like us, is a BFC supporter and, ergo, insists on blacks short and black socks then Kurt has to choose a white shirt in order to sell more of them. You cannot make up this stuff lol lol lol

MD then went on to say that there was "too much white" in the kit but there hadn't been too many complaints. So there you go lol lol lol Matthew Benham is too blame!!!!!

 

[Invipai]

Later someone had to have a good old grunt about about the Oxford game, yes the ****in Oxford game in the league cup nearly a year ago to the day and before Smith even joined the club. And how little effort or care our players put in, the question to that being how can "we" be reassured to not see that again. **** me, those sort of performances used to be consistent with us.

There's always someone who wants to tell their life story before asking the question... He was also moaning about lack of effort in pre-season at Wycombe. You go to a pre-season under the knowledge it's basically watching an advanced training exercise... His question about whether would we try against Exeter was sort of ok, but had he asked it better he'd probably have gotten a better answer than "We want to win every game we play". He should have just asked 'how strong a team is going to play against Exeter in the cup? We don't want a repeat of last year again'.

 

[Banana]

Just noticed that P Giles was trying to get in as many Depeche Mode songs as possible. Some quotes: "get the balance right" and "people are people" - not to mention "my own personal jesus" when referring to Peter G

 

[NW USA Bee]

Thanks for sharing, being 8 hours behind it was difficult to get on line

Didn't take any notes but from memory the main discussion points were:

- General consensus from panel was top 6 was realistic target but aware of what we are up against. Based on previous forums i've been to, I found this a pleasant admission where previously people were against setting specific targets.

- Giles said option to recall Jota during the season, personal issues still ongoing so can't comment too much. Had a baby in Spain so best if he stays for now. I didn't get the impression we'd see him this season.

- Rasmus said we lost out financially with Judge's injury, no real help with insurance etc and likely he would have been sold for big money during the summer anyway. Hoping he'd be back before Christmas.

- Crown said Lionel Road was progressing but admitted it was a slow burner. Mentioned some sort of CDV agreement had been issued last week by council which was another hurdle cleared. Said he remembers writing blog back in 2013 where he said we'd be in ground by 2016 so didn't want to put a timescale on it. Devlin later said hoped to get on site after Christmas but 2019 was now more realistic start date.

- Smith still not to pick a captain, lots made about being a leader, vocal, etc but most important to him is who he thinks will play all 46 games.

- Smith said he took penalties as a player as a centre back but said his view is it should be strikers to add to their goal tally, suggestion therefore that it will be Hogan on penalties

- Smith said more signings possible before Saturday, possibly a striker but not looking for more centre mids, we have 4 already so 5 too many.

- Attempts made to sign Canos but was always out of our budget when competing with bigger clubs. Likewise Pritchard too expensive so won't be looking to sign.

- Crown mocked Holloway's relegation prediction and denied we were regressing. Ankersen also said that comparing us to this time last year we are much improved, particularly atmosphere around the training ground

-Giles said that visitors were driving round the training ground causing trouble and also people were watching training sessions who shouldn't have been, likely scouts, etc which caused closure of training ground.

- Devlin said no update on TicketZone scandal, no contact in over a year. Police investigation ongoing but ticketzone still not accepting responsibility.

- Devlin also said looking at plans for electric scoreboard and advertising, legal settlement agreed with pitch company over last seasons farce

- Devlin spoke about the kit, said Benham wants black shorts and socks but flexibility on shirt. General feedback on home kit was very positive compared to previous years

- Devlin said 5500 season tickets sold which was slightly less than last year but confident that once half season tickets, etc were included the figure would be similar if not more

- Smith suggested club could have blocked Vibe going to Olympics but Vibe was desperate to go so couldn't stand in his way. Admits he will be a loss.

- Some plans in place to commemorate 50 years since qpr takeover bid but nothing finalised. Said they would consider marking anglo Italian cup anniversary too.

Overall a good evening, agree Rasmus very quiet compared to last year but Giles came across better and positively. Smith seemed very natural and a good sense of humour.

 

[thenightfly]

Just watching the video on youtube. The club might want to edit the start where Ramus is talking to cliff. It sounds like they are talking about a transfer and Rasmus says this was the most crazy guy ever and another five minutes and I could have punched him in the face. Not perfect sound but what it sounded like to me!!! From about 2 minutes 20 seconds in.

I thought he said that at first - after the high fives. On third listen it's clear he's actually talking about the guy he's negotiating with who says that. It's not Rasmus himself.

And a few mins later he confides to an add on (£500k?) they (signing club) appear not to know about. I think that's all we should say seems sisto will year 800k a year gross.

A fascinating insight (13 mins in total of) into the dying embers of an FCM outgoing transfer. Tempted to write up a transcript before its deleted in the morning but out of respect for the club probably best not to. I'm sure others have already recorded it however.

Thanks BFC!

 

[Fleet John]

The hope was to start building in the new year, and with a 2 year build, that would mean the first game would be 2019. That's how I understood it all anyway.

Makes sense, thank you.

 

[Bizzy Bee]

They'd be better off buying up 3/4 cheap SM58s for the top table and cabling them up to the mixer.

If we've got a mixer then surely LR is going ahead! :bound: :bound: :bound: :bound: :bound:

 

[Bizzy Bee]

Just noticed that P Giles was trying to get in as many Depeche Mode songs as possible. Some quotes: "get the balance right" and "people are people" - not to mention "my own personal jesus" when referring to Peter G

We're signing Dave Gahan?

 

[Banana]

I thought he said that at first - after the high fives. On third listen it's clear he's actually talking about the guy he's negotiating with who says that. It's not Rasmus himself.

And a few mins later he confides to an add on (£500k?) they (signing club) appear not to know about. I think that's all we should say seems sisto will year 800k a year gross.

A fascinating insight (13 mins in total of) into the dying embers of an FCM outgoing transfer. Tempted to write up a transcript before its deleted in the morning but out of respect for the club probably best not to. I'm sure others have already recorded it however.

Thanks BFC!

I've no idea why but the video has been temporarily(?) removed.... lol

 

[gbems92]

Nice to see it only took to the 2nd " question " to have a good old moan about how poor the friendlies aha e been and demanding more from them.
Not finished there.
Later someone had to have a good old grunt about about the Oxford game, yes the ****in Oxford game in the league cup nearly a year ago to the day and before Smith even joined the club. And how little effort or care our players put in, the question to that being how can "we" be reassured to not see that again. **** me, those sort of performances used to be consistent with us.
Someone actually asked if the club are going to have any celebrations to our Anglo-Italian participation 25 years ago. Have you really turned up to ask that.
Does Ankersen have to explain our how BFC's scouting works at every fans forum ?

Besides that. Some decent answers given to some decent questions. The clubs ambition for this season,Jota and the ground to name 3.

the rant about friendlies was over the top. Seeking reassurances that we will field a decent team against exeter is fair enough but a simple " will we actual try in the cups this year" would have done the job without all the other stuff. Think the people on the top table all tried there best to answer what they could without side stepping much. Giles seemes particulary open to giving as much detail as possible.

 

[wanderer paul]

Just noticed that P Giles was trying to get in as many Depeche Mode songs as possible. Some quotes: "get the balance right" and "people are people" - not to mention "my own personal jesus" when referring to Peter G

A good spot!

Shame the video has been taken down, for now, to check if there are more?! lol

 

[MattyBee]

Tha Anglo Italian cup question was a belter!

 

[Brentford_till_die]

surprised no one asked why we dont go and get andre back

 

[Sultan]

Fried or Boiled onions this year? Was there a mention of this along with why can't we have decent beer in The Hive.

 

[Leonardo]

Does Ankersen have to explain our how BFC's scouting works at every fans forum ?

Well it seems to change so often. 1 year we are hunting around Austria and Germany and Sweden looking for undervalued players as we can't afford British players, the next with less money we are only scouring English lower leagues.


What was disappointing was they didn't ask my question about the B team schedule, although I took the hint its random and will be against FCM U21 quite often.

 

[wanderer paul]

Well it seems to change so often. 1 year we are hunting around Austria and Germany and Sweden looking for undervalued players as we can't afford British players, the next with less money we are only scouring English lower leagues.


What was disappointing was they didn't ask my question about the B team schedule, although I took the hint its random and will be against FCM U21 quite often.

There was a mention that the B team will play games at GP and the training ground, as well as away. All friendly matches. The B squad will also play European sides too.

 

[Delbee]

Fried or Boiled onions this year? Was there a mention of this along with why can't we have decent beer in The Hive.

They are serving London Pride

 

[wanderer paul]

Think you may be reading into it a little much to backup your ongoing dislike of Devlin.

Another odd post.

Where has this Banana's dislike of Mark Devlin come from?

 

[TeeJayBee]

What's a GVD ?!

http://www.getwestlondon.co.uk/spor...ntford-take-significant-step-towards-11693030

General Vesting Declaration (whatever that is!)

See https://griffinpark.org/forums/showthread.php?t=121186&page=54

 

[Herbert]

Well it seems to change so often. 1 year we are hunting around Austria and Germany and Sweden looking for undervalued players as we can't afford British players, the next with less money we are only scouring English lower leagues.


What was disappointing was they didn't ask my question about the B team schedule, although I took the hint its random and will be against FCM U21 quite often.

they have to keep answering the same questions. Repeating their answer that the methods we use will always have to keep evolving and be inventive in order to try and remain one step ahead. Oh yeah, and that the old traditional methods will still be used too. It's tedious, repetitive and a bore that they have to keep saying this to our own fans all the time.

They did talk about the B team, why we had to change it

 

[Tunis Bee]

Another odd post.

Where has this Banana's dislike of Mark Devlin come from?

Sorry, I mistook him for another poster. Deleted comment.

 

[Sultan]

Last thing we want is a bunch of Bananas