Football and Concussion.

[wanderer paul]

The news has just announced that an extra substitution would be allowed for a concussion 'injury' starting in January 2021, the FA Cup weekend. This would be in addition to the usual substitutions already allowed.

IFAB Q&A: Football lawmakers expected to approve use of concussion substitutes

Concussion substitutes biggest issue on agenda for IFAB's Annual Business Meeting on Wednesday; IFAB expected to formally approve trials of concussion substitutes from January; Five substitutes, offside and Video Assistant Referees (VARs) also on the agenda

www.skysports.com

A recent story on concussion in football: Jan Vertonghen: Former Tottenham defender played with concussion symptoms for nine months

https://www.skysports.com/football/news/11675/12163163/jan-vertonghen-former-tottenham-defender-played-with-concussion-symptoms-for-nine-months

 

[ladbroke]

So in the 89th minute, you're trying to close out a game, get a goal back maybe, and ran out of subs....
Let's give a player a "concussion" and make a change to whatever circumstances you need (defending or attacking).
How are refs and the league going to manage this? Do those coming off be forced to spend a week off minimum to ensure recovery?

 

[hobbsy]

This sounds like a good idea but badly thought out.

Physio should do initial checks and then indicate to the bench that further checks need to be made by the Doctor.

This should not be a substitution but a HIA as they do in Rugby.

 

[The Pipe]

So in the 89th minute, you're trying to close out a game, get a goal back maybe, and ran out of subs....
Let's give a player a "concussion" and make a change to whatever circumstances you need (defending or attacking).
How are refs and the league going to manage this? Do those coming off be forced to spend a week off minimum to
nsure recovery?

Actually

So in the 89th minute, you're trying to close out a game, get a goal back maybe, and ran out of subs....
Let's give a player a "concussion" and make a change to whatever circumstances you need (defending or attacking).
How are refs and the league going to manage this? Do those coming off be forced to spend a week off minimum to ensure recovery?

Actually if they did enforce a full 7 day recovery period before allowing a return to football that would nip any nefarious practices in the bud

 

[hobbsy]

Actually


Actually if they did enforce a full 7 day recovery period before allowing a return to football that would nip any nefarious practices in the bud

But then that could work against players who sustain genuine head injuries.

A manager might not take a player off if they think they will lose them for 7 days

 

[HaylingBee74]

But then that could work against players who sustain genuine head injuries.

A manager might not take a player off if they think they will lose them for 7 days

I dont think the manager should have a say. I think in Rugby Union the Doctor makes the TIA decision

 

[hobbsy]

I dont think the manager should have a say. I think in Rugby Union the Doctor makes the TIA decision

Absolutely, so it shouldn't be an extra substitution.

 

[ladbroke]

But then that could work against players who sustain genuine head injuries.

A manager might not take a player off if they think they will lose them for 7 days

I get that but if a doctor has declared the possibility of concussion they should be mandatory having a week off.

 

[hobbsy]

I get that but if a doctor has declared the possibility of concussion they should be mandatory having a week off.

Yes agreed

 

[Alex]

Take it out of their hands, if the game is stopped for a head injury make it compulsory for an assesment, no need for temp replacement and will stop all the feigned head injuries that we see ala Charlton away a few seasons ago.

 

[ladbroke]

Take it out of their hands, if the game is stopped for a head injury make it compulsory for an assesment, no need for temp replacement and will stop all the feigned head injuries that we see ala Charlton away a few seasons ago.

There was a player down in a recent game (cant recall which) where no one actually touched him but he went down holding his head and got the game stopped from another attack. That is what needs to stop. If he was genuinely hurt then he'd not recovered that quickly from treatment.

 

[Alex]

There was a player down in a recent game (cant recall which) where no one actually touched him but he went down holding his head and got the game stopped from another attack. That is what needs to stop. If he was genuinely hurt then he'd not recovered that quickly from treatment.

exactly, if the ref stops the game for a head injury then the whole process kicks in, assessment by a doctor off the pitch, the team can either bring on a permanent sub if they have any left or wait for the result before making a decision.

 

[Vid]

exactly, if the ref stops the game for a head injury then the whole process kicks in, assessment by a doctor off the pitch, the team can either bring on a permanent sub if they have any left or wait for the result before making a decision.

Don't stop the game just tie his feet together and drag him off with a horse. We are getting too soft these days.

 

[hanworthbee]

We already have 5 subs...isn't that enough

 

[Guildford Bee]

We already have 5 subs...isn't that enough

If a team has used all five subs and a player gets a head injury and is concussed, they're less likely to take him off. So in this instance I'd say no.

 

[KenCootesNephew]

The news has just announced that an extra substitution would be allowed for a concussion 'injury' starting in January 2021, the FA Cup weekend.

Is this exclusively for knock-out competitions ?