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Lots of empty seats around me in the family stand…..and I mean lots…… I know it’s the buyers choice not to go to a game but I hope the club clock how often season tickets are being scanned and potentially block people from renewing next season if they haven’t been going.

Would seem a shame that many families who would love to take their kids regularly can’t because people who dip in and out of matches don’t bother going, thereby denying them the chance to buy a season ticket.. Perhaps it would encourage them to put them on the ticket exchange more.
Couple next to me have been at the arsenal, Liverpool and Chelsea games.
For Brighton a Chelsea and an Arsenal fan sat in their seats, exchange?.
Leicester one was used, yesterday both empty.
I reckon we will see them twice in December for united and city, then spurs and then next season.
 

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I seem to have different people around me every game and empty seats appearing. Lots of people bought tickets to watch only the big games and can’t be arsed with the others, probably fairly inevitable that would happen when a club with 4K ST’s goes to 12k over night.

The first few games the pre match buzz has been great, last few it has run out of steam and the over loud music just keeps people in the pub until the last minute anyway. Yesterdays minute silence meant it was all thrown of kilter anyway.

I am certainly not enjoying the 20 mins to get out after the game in the north stand when I want to get away from the celebrating away fans and players after 85 mins of time wasting.

A few things linked to this:

1. Agree re-a revolving cast of supporters in the North Stand.
2. I know it is 'new' but less sense of 'community' in areas - less faces you recognise.
3. Very surprisingly people seem to turn up very late for the games - more so than at GP.
4. The food, atmosphere and entertainment isn't that much of a draw.
5. The ground has many strengths - good views especially. But it seems far from a fortress - is this just because of the PL or is there more to it?
 

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Couple next to me have been at the arsenal, Liverpool and Chelsea games.
For Brighton a Chelsea and an Arsenal fan sat in their seats, exchange?.
Leicester one was used, yesterday both empty.
I reckon we will see them twice in December for united and city, then spurs and then next season.

In fairness much harder to get to games if you are set up Saturday afternoon but no doubt also a focus for many on the 'big' games.
 

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Couple next to me have been at the arsenal, Liverpool and Chelsea games.
For Brighton a Chelsea and an Arsenal fan sat in their seats, exchange?.
Leicester one was used, yesterday both empty.
I reckon we will see them twice in December for united and city, then spurs and then next season.
I might follow the same kind of pattern as I live in Ireland but have a ST. I reallocate it via Bees supporting mates or exchange. It's not up to you to judge what the reasons are these people don't go to all games, could be anything from distance like me, family commitments or work patterns.
 

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I might follow the same kind of pattern as I live in Ireland but have a ST. I reallocate it via Bees supporting mates or exchange. It's not up to you to judge what the reasons are these people don't go to all games, could be anything from distance like me, family commitments or work patterns.

I largely agree. Some people are not going to be able to get to the likes of the Watford and Man City games. Also for a variety of reasons harder to get to evening games. I remember going to the Sheffield Wednesday play off game and leaving gone 17:00 from Somerset. I'd probably have to leave two hours earlier now and it would not be easy to park.

Supporters just need to make their tickets available.
 

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I’m not buying this argument that there’s loads of empty seats. Attendances have barely fluctuated this season (Liverpool was hardly any higher) and in a 16900ish capacity stadium you are always going to have dozens of seats unused, heightened further by covid issues.

I do agree re a revolving cast of characters, as that’s certainly the case in the east stand where I am (213), but given when I bought my season ticket this was the part of the ground with the most availability that doesn’t surprise me as I imagine it’s mainly match day ticket holders in the area.

ultimately it’s a much bigger ground and far higher attendances than GP, so will take a while for us newer fans to get to grips with everything and I’m sure the atmosphere does suffer as a result, however most clubs only have one true proper “singing” stand so again I haven’t been too disappointed with the atmosphere.
 

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I might follow the same kind of pattern as I live in Ireland but have a ST. I reallocate it via Bees supporting mates or exchange. It's not up to you to judge what the reasons are these people don't go to all games, could be anything from distance like me, family commitments or work patterns.
I don’t think anyone has an issue with you doing that…the issue I have is people buying season tickets and then just not using them (ie putting them on exchange or giving them to mates).
Just seems like a waste.
 

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Quite a few very heated squabble's between Bees fans in the upper south stand going on yesterday didn't quite come to blows but arm's were raised , thankfully no blows . thats all we need losing run and fighting each other :redcard:
 

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Quite a few very heated squabble's between Bees fans in the upper south stand going on yesterday didn't quite come to blows but arm's were raised , thankfully no blows . thats all we need losing run and fighting each other :redcard:

Upper South? What were the arguments about? Which shares should one invest in or which is better Eton or Harrow? Loads of the Lower South came out late for the second half.
 

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I don’t think anyone has an issue with you doing that…the issue I have is people buying season tickets and then just not using them (ie putting them on exchange or giving them to mates).
Just seems like a waste.
Well the one next to me was put on exchange and wasn’t sold.
 

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Quite a few very heated squabble's between Bees fans in the upper south stand going on yesterday didn't quite come to blows but arm's were raised , thankfully no blows . thats all we need losing run and fighting each other :redcard:
Pretty toxic atmosphere up there yesterday but this was all due to one mouthy knob near the front who was intend on turning on any bees fan in his vicinity for “not supporting the team”
My mate shouted at the referee after the penalty decision, this bloke obviously misunderstood who he was shouting at and stood up and give him a volley of abuse which was returned with interest. Then near the end he turned on another long standing bees fan sitting in the row behind him which nearly came to blows as more fans got involved.
 

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Pretty toxic atmosphere up there yesterday but this was all due to one mouthy knob near the front who was intend on turning on any bees fan in his vicinity for “not supporting the team”
My mate shouted at the referee after the penalty decision, this bloke obviously misunderstood who he was shouting at and stood up and give him a volley of abuse which was returned with interest. Then near the end he turned on another long standing bees fan sitting in the row behind him which nearly came to blows as more fans got involved.
and no stewards to be seen I understand...
 

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South stand near us was about a dozen empty seats.
 

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Couple next to me have been at the arsenal, Liverpool and Chelsea games.
For Brighton a Chelsea and an Arsenal fan sat in their seats, exchange?.
Leicester one was used, yesterday both empty.
I reckon we will see them twice in December for united and city, then spurs and then next season.
I think this has always been the case, but more noticeable and topical here in the Prem
 

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Quite a few different faces in the duggout around me every game now very strange and none giving a breath of support.It’s gradually become the quietiest part of the ground now.
 

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Quite a few different faces in the duggout around me every game now very strange and none giving a breath of support.It’s gradually become the quietiest part of the ground now.
I think that may be down to your behaviour and people choosing not to return 😀😀
 

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The bloke next to me has been christened Mr Stink by my two kids and the wife. They are refusing to sit next to him so I have too.
Lots of encouragement from him yesterday with shouts of
"f***in hell"
"what's that?"
"shoot"
"Toney yoor do something"
"what's going on"
 

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Quite a few different faces in the duggout around me every game now very strange and none giving a breath of support.It’s gradually become the quietiest part of the ground now.
It is very quiet.
 

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I have sat in the east stand or north stand near the away section a few times and wonder if we should think about putting some sort of insulation behind the metal grid/wall at the top of the away section (on the north stand part) - each set of away fans seems to figure out that it be used to make noise and it is strange to effectively give them drums to use and helps the away fans make noise.
 

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Different people next to me in the north stand this season for every game .. I’m sure I’ve seen a season ticket card from a few of them .. so who knows
 

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I’m not buying this argument that there’s loads of empty seats. Attendances have barely fluctuated this season (Liverpool was hardly any higher) and in a 16900ish capacity stadium you are always going to have dozens of seats unused, heightened further by covid issues.
Where are you getting your attendance figures from? You do realise that a ST is counted in the attendance whether they go to the game or not, considering we are talking about ST holders not turning up to games and stopping others from attending I am not sure your your argument stacks up.
I’m doing my best and have lost my voice today
I am more of a shouter than a singer, I don't swear as I have my son with me but I do feel like people look at me like I am some kind of yob when I shout "get up you cheat" or "come of ref, get a grip" at the top of my voice.
 

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Where are you getting your attendance figures from? You do realise that a ST is counted in the attendance whether they go to the game or not, considering we are talking about ST holders not turning up to games and stopping others from attending I am not sure your your argument stacks up.

I am more of a shouter than a singer, I don't swear as I have my son with me but I do feel like people look at me like I am some kind of yob when I shout "get up you cheat" or "come of ref, get a grip" at the top of my voice.
No singing on my own, same as you screaming myself hoarse at the ref, the oppo and encouraging our players
 
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