Strong Rumour Frank Onyeka (DM FCM)

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Rasmus's interview appeared to pour cold water onto that idea, no? Plus with Norgaard and Vitaly you'd think we're well covered...
 

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I don't think we're covered. We will need more dynamism and tackling in midfield in the Premier League.
 

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I don't think we're covered. We will need more dynamism and tackling in midfield in the Premier League.
I think we were only talking about defensive midfielders, I agree we need to tick some other boxes for midfield requirements
 

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Isn’t signing people from overseas going to be a lot harder due to brexit?
 

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100% agree. I think we're well stocked in CM to be honest.
We really will be heavily dependent on Nørgaard and his fitness, though. Janelt was an able stand-in this season but he wasn't signed for that position and Bidstrup is also very young, so I think there's case for another DHM, particularly one we will know all about. Of course, we have the player who made the most tackles in the final already on the books...
 

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We really will be heavily dependent on Nørgaard and his fitness, though. Janelt was an able stand-in this season but he wasn't signed for that position and Bidstrup is also very young, so I think there's case for another DHM, particularly one we will know all about. Of course, we have the player who made the most tackles in the final already on the books...
I would argue that Janelt was more than just an able stand in, having proved that in the 21 game unbeaten run. He is young and will only get better. With him and CN, and Bidstrup getting game time I would say we have more pressing requirements elsewhere.
 

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CN could we'll move to FB. Vitaly looks like he could be coached into several positions. I believe in specialisation, but never rule out the benefit of a career flip.
 

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Isn’t signing people from overseas going to be a lot harder due to brexit?
Not now we've gone up the type of players we'd sign in the champ (now pl) will likely have sufficient points to play over here imo
 

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I’ve always wondered how it would work between the two clubs in this situation. If he is that good does it then make them weaker selling him? Doesn’t that piss their fans off knowing we’ve gone up and they’ve sold one of their best players to us? Unless he isn’t one of their better players? I’m just intrigued how it can work with becoming complicated. If we sold Norgaard, for example, to FC Midtjylland when they made the Champions League, we would all be asking questions.
 

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Rasmus's interview appeared to pour cold water onto that idea, no? Plus with Norgaard and Vitaly you'd think we're well covered...

Must have missed that? Have you got a link? It may be that at times we want to play with 2 DMs. Vitaly has been great but I do slightly worry about how he'll cope with the step up and change in refereeing. His touch can be a little ropey at times. Then again we do have Bidstrup too who we seem to have a lot of faith in.
 

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Must have missed that? Have you got a link? It may be that at times we want to play with 2 DMs. Vitaly has been great but I do slightly worry about how he'll cope with the step up and change in refereeing. His touch can be a little ropey at times. Then again we do have Bidstrup too who we seem to have a lot of faith in.

 
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Ah. thanks for that! Had somehow missed it.. Not sure that really rules anything out though. He's just playing a straight bat there..
 

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In the danish press, they also believe we are buying him.
He was brilliant in FCMs champions league matches, but has had a very poor spring, and is one of the reasons FCM lost a clear lead to only get second.
Is he better than JDS, CN, VJ, MJ and SB (assuming they are free of injuries) - no he is not. But can he fit in and complemnt the midfield, when needed - yes he can.

Thi price i have seen is between 6 and 8 m £
 

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So... potentially a back up for Nørgaard, particularly if we keep the formation and style of play that has a ball-player between two centre backs. It would release Janelt for № 8 duties, as was first intended, and allow time for Bidstrup to develop.
 
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So... potentially a back up for Nørgaard, particularly if we keep the formation and style of play that has a ball-player between two centre backs. It would release Janelt for № 8 duties, as was first intended, and allow time for Bidstrup to develop.

Not sure I see Janelt as a no.8 in the PL?
 

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Not sure I see Janelt as a no.8 in the PL?
But our recruitment team must have seen something if he was recruited on the basis of that position, as he has said.
 

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So... potentially a back up for Nørgaard, particularly if we keep the formation and style of play that has a ball-player between two centre backs. It would release Janelt for № 8 duties, as was first intended, and allow time for Bidstrup to develop.

But as stated earlier in the thread, hard to see how he gets a work permit.
 
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But our recruitment team must have seen something if he was recruited on the basis of that position, as he has said.

yes I'm sure, just don't see it myself.. Happy to be proved wrong!
 

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I think Onyeka is a serious option for us as will provide more athleticism as Rasmus eluded to in his interview. We are not blessed with pace as a team and this will be rectified I believe in our signings .
 

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Agree that apart from Rico extra pace is the one thing we do need to invest in.
 

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I don't think we're covered. We will need more dynamism and tackling in midfield in the Premier League.
I agree. Norgaard’s a great player, but he hasn’t played much through injury. We need someone who is a bit better than just a cover. It’s tough out there.
 

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I think Onyeka is a serious option for us as will provide more athleticism as Rasmus eluded to in his interview. We are not blessed with pace as a team and this will be rectified I believe in our signings .
I don't think that there are many dissenters to him signing, the difficulty is, the immigration rules.
 

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I don't think that there are many dissenters to him signing, the difficulty is, the immigration rules.

He's a full international, is playing in the Danish top flight, and has been playing in the Europa League and Champions League for three consecutive seasons. We would also pay a fair whack for him. Surely that would be enough for a work permit?
 

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I don't think that there are many dissenters to him signing, the difficulty is, the immigration rules.
I’m no legal eagle but I think a case can be made on an individual basis if he has particular qualities that we need in order to carry out our business. Like scoring 30 goals a season. Not that we need two in the same team.
 

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He's a full international, is playing in the Danish top flight, and has been playing in the Europa League and Champions League for three consecutive seasons. We would also pay a fair whack for him. Surely that would be enough for a work permit?

Looking at the rules again the Champions League thing might swing it.
 

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He's a full international, is playing in the Danish top flight, and has been playing in the Europa League and Champions League for three consecutive seasons. We would also pay a fair whack for him. Surely that would be enough for a work permit?
I've had a bit of a look, and looks like should be OK for work permit. Needs 15 points and I make it 19.

League quality of Danish Superliga (band 5) - 4 points
Reached group stage of ECL - 5 points
played over 90% of minutes in ECL - 10 points.

No points for single international appearances, appearances in Superliga, or FCM league position.
How much we're prepared to pay, or what happened previous to last year, have no effect.
 

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I've had a bit of a look, and looks like should be OK for work permit. Needs 15 points and I make it 19.

League quality of Danish Superliga (band 5) - 4 points
Reached group stage of ECL - 5 points
played over 90% of minutes in ECL - 10 points.

No points for single international appearances, appearances in Superliga, or FCM league position.
How much we're prepared to pay, or what happened previous to last year, have no effect.

I don't think FCM have qualified for next season's Champions League. So if Benham, Rasmus etc. want to get him into the PL shop window before it's too late, now might be the chance.
 

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I don't think FCM have qualified for next season's Champions League. So if Benham, Rasmus etc. want to get him into the PL shop window before it's too late, now might be the chance.
They have, but only qualy round 2.
 

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I’m no legal eagle but I think a case can be made on an individual basis if he has particular qualities that we need in order to carry out our business. Like scoring 30 goals a season. Not that we need two in the same team.
These are the circumstances where exceptions can be made. As you can see, they're fairly strict, I would guess the main case would be injury, and even then would still need to reach 10 points anyway.

26. The Club may request that an Exceptions Panel consider the application if a Player achieves between 10 and 14 points in accordance with paragraphs 31-39 and: a) If the Player is not a Youth Player, the Club can evidence that exceptional circumstances prevented the Player from achieving 15 points; and b) If the Player is a Youth Player, the Youth Player achieves between 10 and 14 points in accordance with paragraphs 40-46.
 

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I don't think FCM have qualified for next season's Champions League. So if Benham, Rasmus etc. want to get him into the PL shop window before it's too late, now might be the chance.
Perhaps the DofF is working on the application now!
 

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So apparently the Beesotted interview with the DoF says this one is a goer

 

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From what I've seen he would be a great asset for us. A defensive rather than attacking midfielder, but similar to McCormack in the sense that he's best when he's able to roam around the midfield, when playing alongside a more disciplined holding player (i.e. Norgaard).
 
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Struggle to see this one, in a 4-3-3 we have Norgaard and in a back 3 we don't need a defensive midfielder. Vitaly can play DM if needed, as can a couple of others.
 

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Struggle to see this one, in a 4-3-3 we have Norgaard and in a back 3 we don't need a defensive midfielder. Vitaly can play DM if needed, as can a couple of others.

If we play 4-3-3 we will need the option of a dynamic pressing number 8. Not another holding player but one who can break up play and win the ball higher up the pitch as well as play a bit. I don't think we can carry both Jensen and DaSilva in midfield against the very top PL sides.
 
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