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And what ? Your 50 15 years old raised the ****ing roof didn’t they ? C u n t

Also 99% of your fans look like they should be on the undateables , I’ve been to many places following my team and seen some odd fans , a few of ours to be fair ...... But yours ? Feck sake sooooo odd.
Not true, but at least we have voices. You lot are a bunch of mutes apparently.
 

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100% didn't happen
Swear on my kids lives it did. Today.

Why the hell would I make something like that up just to get one over on you. I recounted it on here purely because it was raised and it seemed an amazing coincidence. Maybe it was not as unusual as I thought at the time.
 
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Frank says post match he knows the away form is a concern and it would help if we don’t keep conceding in the first few minutes.

In reality the rest of the season is done, The last few always have been painful. Wigan Away slow and turgid, They were so poor we got away with a nil nil, Swansea gave us the run around and put us out the game in the first 45, today 2 down after 15 before we even strung 3 passes together.

Apart from Boro, since Xmas we have had no shows at Forest, Sheff Wed and hustled off our game by Swansea and Sheff U.

Today, Frank look tired at the press conference and a bit of loss why we can’t perform away. Teams have sussed us away - high press on the back 3 and mistakes will happen. Reading and both Swansea played 3 up and target Sorensen, it’s cruel but true. Meite, Oliveira and Barrow were like a gang not 5 yards from each other standing by Sorensen when the ball was up the other end, Dalsgaard had nobody his side and Konza look bemused for the first 15.

It was a tactic that worked for manager Gomes as it did for Potter at Swansea, the smarter managers have caught on, if Plan B is to perform Plan A better then we have failed away from home. Sawyers and Da Silva never picked up the runs by Barrow and Oliveira dropping deeper just gave the space whilst our back 3 thought do we stick or twist.

Meite with two smart finishes one from a through ball between Jeanvier and Sorensen and the second when Sawyers failed to pick him up from a standing start with only Maupay’s smart header from a fumbled Benrahma freekick kept us in the game.

Maupay is a shining light - bottle his will to win and you have character, his frustration at his team mates were there for all to see. Reading weren’t fantastic but I couldn’t disagree with Franks comment they deserved to win, they wanted and needed the win, our players wanted warmer climes and some sun and sand than a chilly Mad Stad.

When we are good the football is just a joy, when we are bad we look like we could concede for fun. 14th is about right for this side this season. We are the good bad and ugly this season. I’d imagine a lot of ins and outs over the summer as Frank really puts his marker down. When we play Reading next season it will be interesting to see how many names will be still on the team sheet.

Championship football six seasons running that’s good enough for me and most but let’s not dress today up - it wasn’t good and following the aways this season the errors seem to be on loop more often. Off to the Den on Friday and if Brentford show like they did today, let’s not kid ourselves they will get a wallop. Millwall is always a good Away to go to, let’s see if the players agree.
 

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Was anyone else impressed with Reading putting a singing section right next to the away fans ??
 

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Lol at this chump still registered under his user name the last time he obviously came on trying to give it the biggun, are you still a Jaap Stam fan lad?
 

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Frank says post match he knows the away form is a concern and it would help if we don’t keep conceding in the first few minutes.

In reality the rest of the season is done, The last few always have been painful. Wigan Away slow and turgid, They were so poor we got away with a nil nil, Swansea gave us the run around and put us out the game in the first 45, today 2 down after 15 before we even strung 3 passes together.

Apart from Boro, since Xmas we have had no shows at Forest, Sheff Wed and hustled off our game by Swansea and Sheff U.

Today, Frank look tired at the press conference and a bit of loss why we can’t perform away. Teams have sussed us away - high press on the back 3 and mistakes will happen. Reading and both Swansea played 3 up and target Sorensen, it’s cruel but true. Meite, Oliveira and Barrow were like a gang not 5 yards from each other standing by Sorensen when the ball was up the other end, Dalsgaard had nobody his side and Konza look bemused for the first 15.

It was a tactic that worked for manager Gomes as it did for Potter at Swansea, the smarter managers have caught on, if Plan B is to perform Plan A better then we have failed away from home. Sawyers and Da Silva never picked up the runs by Barrow and Oliveira dropping deeper just gave the space whilst our back 3 thought do we stick or twist.

Meite with two smart finishes one from a through ball between Jeanvier and Sorensen and the second when Sawyers failed to pick him up from a standing start with only Maupay’s smart header from a fumbled Benrahma freekick kept us in the game.

Maupay is a shining light - bottle his will to win and you have character, his frustration at his team mates were there for all to see. Reading weren’t fantastic but I couldn’t disagree with Franks comment they deserved to win, they wanted and needed the win, our players wanted warmer climes and some sun and sand than a chilly Mad Stad.

When we are good the football is just a joy, when we are bad we look like we could concede for fun. 14th is about right for this side this season. We are the good bad and ugly this season. I’d imagine a lot of ins and outs over the summer as Frank really puts his marker down. When we play Reading next season it will be interesting to see how many names will be still on the team sheet.

Championship football six seasons running that’s good enough for me and most but let’s not dress today up - it wasn’t good and following the aways this season the errors seem to be on loop more often. Off to the Den on Friday and if Brentford show like they did today, let’s not kid ourselves they will get a wallop. Millwall is always a good Away to go to, let’s see if the players agree.
Exactly, and that's what I'm saying. Six seasons lads. It's good.
 

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Not as wasted as mine. Had to stay in for a British Gas engineer to come and mend our broken heating system. Put on the wrong bit and still didn't work. So did a temporary repair using old part. It's now either on or off manually with the water. No thermostat or timer working. Coming back Tuesday as their part ordering system was not working due to - a system upgrade not working!
Infinitely better afternoon than the rest of us had to endure. We could only dream of this kind of entertainment.
 

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Was anyone else impressed with Reading putting a singing section right next to the away fans ??
Not really, they had a fecking drum at both ends of the ground because of that. I think the fans to the right of us created a better atmosphere the group to the left felt a bit 'designated singing section'.
 

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Not really, they had a fecking drum at both ends of the ground because of that. I think the fans to the right of us created a better atmosphere the group to the left felt a bit 'designated singing section'.
Even the upper West made more noise than the travelling bees.

You were all very friendly and polite though.
 
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I would hope that only 6 of the starting eleven today play in next season’s opening game.

That’s Dalsgaard Konsa Jeanvier (barely) Sawyers Benrahma and Maupay.
 

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Defence and Thomas Frank.

All about hunger and desire today and I don't think many of our boys covered themselves in glory. Maupay fought hard and I thought Dalsgaard was the one who carried the ball forward better than most but most of them were poor today. All the CBs were on their heels and 2nd to the ball, Romaine and Josh lost the midfield battle, Said and Ollie offered very little with Watkins' final poor really poor all game. I thought Marcondes made a difference when he came on he was the only person moving the ball swiftly enough to find spaces, Reading were very good at getting back and getting organised and we moved the ball so slowly it allowed them to get back in shape all the time.

We were slow and lethargic right from the off, deserved to be 2-0 down and were lucky to get in at half time at 2-1. 2nd half started and there was no change in tempo at all and until the last 15 minutes didn't really put the Reading defense under any pressure, the keeper made a couple of saves late on from Canos and a Sorenson loopy header but before that we hardly tested him.

Surely we just have to try something different away from home because how we set up and play just isn't working.

One final positive, I thought Forss looked very lively and got into a couple of decent positions. He looks quicker and stronger than when I saw at the start of the season.
Enough excuses from Thomas Frank. We've played the same way and made the same defensive mistakes we made weeks/months ago and Frank continues to be correct in his observations about those mistakes. HOWEVER he simply does NOT have a clue how to set up his team to defend better. There must be a 'half way house' between our exciting attacking and woeful defending. Do we have a DEFENSIVE coach?
 

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... or maybe Sweet Caroline as the club anthem.....
 

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And you had drums 😂😂😂😂

You’ll be having clappers next .....
Also, you can't help what individual spastics want to bring into a ground. Did you see the wolves fan in the full wrestling kit or the Brighton fan dressed as an actual seagull Ffs haha
 

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Not good with their language, these visiting fans. That's two in a week who seem to have little regard for diversity.
 

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He got done early in his stint as sub today and lost his head because the referee didn’t dish out a yellow card to the opponent that drew blood. Therefore TF had to bring on Forss shortly after and relegate Sergi to an attacking left back.

That decision by Frank, by the way, is surely the end of Tom Field. Assume he was our home grown option in the 18 and only picked because of that?
At least Tom got to play for the club he loves and deserved to wear a track suit with his initials on it
 

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Can we mute this guy?
Nice flirting but do it somewhere else, I want to read others thoughts on the match
Simply

You got battered by a superior team and club.

You have friendly fans.

All you need to know.
 

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Frank says post match he knows the away form is a concern and it would help if we don’t keep conceding in the first few minutes.

In reality the rest of the season is done, The last few always have been painful. Wigan Away slow and turgid, They were so poor we got away with a nil nil, Swansea gave us the run around and put us out the game in the first 45, today 2 down after 15 before we even strung 3 passes together.

Apart from Boro, since Xmas we have had no shows at Forest, Sheff Wed and hustled off our game by Swansea and Sheff U.

Today, Frank look tired at the press conference and a bit of loss why we can’t perform away. Teams have sussed us away - high press on the back 3 and mistakes will happen. Reading and both Swansea played 3 up and target Sorensen, it’s cruel but true. Meite, Oliveira and Barrow were like a gang not 5 yards from each other standing by Sorensen when the ball was up the other end, Dalsgaard had nobody his side and Konza look bemused for the first 15.

It was a tactic that worked for manager Gomes as it did for Potter at Swansea, the smarter managers have caught on, if Plan B is to perform Plan A better then we have failed away from home. Sawyers and Da Silva never picked up the runs by Barrow and Oliveira dropping deeper just gave the space whilst our back 3 thought do we stick or twist.

Meite with two smart finishes one from a through ball between Jeanvier and Sorensen and the second when Sawyers failed to pick him up from a standing start with only Maupay’s smart header from a fumbled Benrahma freekick kept us in the game.

Maupay is a shining light - bottle his will to win and you have character, his frustration at his team mates were there for all to see. Reading weren’t fantastic but I couldn’t disagree with Franks comment they deserved to win, they wanted and needed the win, our players wanted warmer climes and some sun and sand than a chilly Mad Stad.

When we are good the football is just a joy, when we are bad we look like we could concede for fun. 14th is about right for this side this season. We are the good bad and ugly this season. I’d imagine a lot of ins and outs over the summer as Frank really puts his marker down. When we play Reading next season it will be interesting to see how many names will be still on the team sheet.

Championship football six seasons running that’s good enough for me and most but let’s not dress today up - it wasn’t good and following the aways this season the errors seem to be on loop more often. Off to the Den on Friday and if Brentford show like they did today, let’s not kid ourselves they will get a wallop. Millwall is always a good Away to go to, let’s see if the players agree.
Wasn’t there today, but having read your post, I feel that I was. Thank you for this, really interesting read.
 

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From what I’ve seen of Sergi the past few games, I’m afraid he isn’t meriting a starting spot.
Sergi was playing his way back into form but unlike SB & Watkins he gets dropped after a poor game. Today he was simply guilty of trying too hard & caring too much.
 

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I don't know why so many Brentford fans are down on your club. Your a plucky little club batting above its level. Bigger, more established clubs will also test you away from home.

A poster earlier posted that you shod do well in front of a large and vocal support. You were all sat down for 90% of the game. You cheered your goal but that's about it.

Onto the game, yes, you are safe and there wasn't much on it for you but we battered you in the first 45 and it took a keeper error to get you back into it. We should have scored a couple more with at least one my gran word have scored. Second half you had some possession but we were looking for the break and missed another sitter.

It was a fair result and after years of a sh*t CEO and management appointments, we have a proper manager again and our form is constantly improving. Next year will be different.

Enjoy the rest of your season, I will enjoy my last visit to your ground, I hope it's not a Tuesday night game.
It appears you missed the bit where your stewards asked everyone to sit down, whilst doing nothing of the same to home fans? I was asked to sit, and did so because I couldn't be bothered with the hassle... with the very made up reason that the people behind me had complained they couldn't see. I'm tall and fat, but the people behind me were standing too, and hadn't moved all game. The older lads behind me had some more unkind words (which weren't needed, but I can't disagree with). Your head steward made up a load of tripe about "Reading fans being asked to sit at half time, because we have their seat numbers". Like that was gonna happen.

Don't complain away fans don't stand when your own staff don't allow it.
 

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Sergi was playing his way back into form but unlike SB & Watkins he gets dropped after a poor game. Today he was simply guilty of trying too hard & caring too much.
He was pretty selfish towards his team mates in not channeling his anger correctly. This is one of the reasons why he isn’t starting each game. Amazing how we give these badge kissers so much latitude.
 

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He was pretty selfish towards his team mates in not channeling his anger correctly. This is one of the reasons why he isn’t starting each game. Amazing how we give these badge kissers so much latitude.
Could you elaborate please?
 

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It appears you missed the bit where your stewards asked everyone to sit down, whilst doing nothing of the same to home fans? I was asked to sit, and did so because I couldn't be bothered with the hassle... with the very made up reason that the people behind me had complained they couldn't see. I'm tall and fat, but the people behind me were standing too, and hadn't moved all game. The older lads behind me had some more unkind words (which weren't needed, but I can't disagree with). Your head steward made up a load of tripe about "Reading fans being asked to sit at half time, because we have their seat numbers". Like that was gonna happen.

Don't complain away fans don't stand when your own staff don't allow it.

Yeah but similar sized clubs like Wigan stood all game.
 

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Maupay worked his wotsits off all game, not sure too many others wanted it as much
It’s funny how some people just have the attitude. We are ***** away from home, the forwards are usually the ones who give up first as without service they may as well go to costa coffee for an hour. Yet this chap just runs himself dead every game even if there is nothing in it for him or the team. Maybe he is so self centered he gives everything just it notch a goal even in defeat. God knows, but Christ we will miss him.

So many of our players have slipped off the radar when they left, jota and hogan have wasted 2-3 years of their career (money aside I expect) and I really hope this fella doesn’t go the same way.
 

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Yeah but similar sized clubs like Wigan stood all game.
Wigan's ground has a capacity almost exactly twice ours, and are the only club in a large town. Size yours, they're more similar to yourselves, if you're thinking of us and Wigan as "small clubs", then you're welcome to be one of those clubs too. I think you probably think of yourself as bigger than you are though.

Other than that, no, your staff were fairly dickish and aggressive about it even when asked politely. Not the yellow jacketed stewards, they were lovely had a short chat with 'em at the end. The actual response team were the ones being rude and standoffish. I'd rather not have an argument on a matchday, especially with a police video camera 4 inches from my face, so I'll just sit down.
 

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Enough excuses from Thomas Frank. We've played the same way and made the same defensive mistakes we made weeks/months ago and Frank continues to be correct in his observations about those mistakes. HOWEVER he simply does NOT have a clue how to set up his team to defend better. There must be a 'half way house' between our exciting attacking and woeful defending. Do we have a DEFENSIVE coach?
How would you set it up out of interest?

You have Daniels.... jeanvier, konsa, mads, dallsgard, Moses.

What do you do with those 5 to “set it up differently” as you say. Name one more player available.

Who would you draft into midfield to protect them?

Genuinely interested.7
 

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I think it’s pretty straightforward.
OK. Thanks. I've obviously missed something pretty obvious, but it was a genuine question. Don't quite understand why you need to be so unhelpful.
 

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Wigan's ground has a capacity almost exactly twice ours, and are the only club in a large town. Size yours, they're more similar to yourselves, if you're thinking of us and Wigan as "small clubs", then you're welcome to be one of those clubs too. I think you probably think of yourself as bigger than you are though.

Other than that, no, your staff were fairly dickish and aggressive about it even when asked politely. Not the yellow jacketed stewards, they were lovely had a short chat with 'em at the end. The actual response team were the ones being rude and standoffish. I'd rather not have an argument on a matchday, especially with a police video camera 4 inches from my face, so I'll just sit down.
That was a fishing trip to be fair. You're a more traditional club than theirs.

I stil see them as a lower league / non league club
 
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