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Not really sure he says alot but glad the effort has been made.
 

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What's the deal with Dyke? Is he still just a figurehead? I know he was supposed to add weight to our push for Lionel Road in any case. Surely cannot just be a figurehead if releasing statements on behalf of the board. I know I am biased as I took an instant disliking to him, not only as his appointment coincided with 18 months of sheer crap, but because the way he conducted himself during the 2006/07 season (i.e. the 'this is fun' interview after the 2-0 defeat at Cheltenham, smirking at worried fans after every defeat etc.).

Would be generally interested to know what's what.
 

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shame he dont put his hands in his pockets and match m/b investment, biggest waste of space in brentfords history lmoa ps should of stayed with the prawn sandwich brigade at old trafford
 

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I welcome the message but can't help feel it might be linked to "song-gate" in some way
 

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What's the deal with Dyke? Is he still just a figurehead? I know he was supposed to add weight to our push for Lionel Road in any case. Surely cannot just be a figurehead if releasing statements on behalf of the board. I know I am biased as I took an instant disliking to him, not only as his appointment coincided with 18 months of sheer crap, but because the way he conducted himself during the 2006/07 season (i.e. the 'this is fun' interview after the 2-0 defeat at Cheltenham, smirking at worried fans after every defeat etc.).

Would be generally interested to know what's what.

He's the chairman of the club.
I believe he put a six figure sum into the club, at a time when we needed it desparately. (I could be wrong on that)
I also think he worked behind the scenes to get Mr Benham on board.

Greg Dyke is Greg Dyke.
An easy target for those looking around for someone to blame for some lean years in the last decade.
 

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shame he dont put his hands in his pockets and match m/b investment, biggest waste of space in brentfords history lmoa ps should of stayed with the prawn sandwich brigade at old trafford

A bigger waste of space than Ron Noades or Jack Dunnett? I think not
 

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shame he dont put his hands in his pockets and match m/b investment, biggest waste of space in brentfords history lmoa ps should of stayed with the prawn sandwich brigade at old trafford

Has been part of a team clearing up the mess that Noades left us in.
 

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I welcome the message but can't help feel it might be linked to "song-gate" in some way

Think you may be right!
Seems a strange time to give what ultimately comes across as a vote of confidence to the management, players, youth set up, fans wanting home wins etc. Its as though someone has told the dykester he should make a statement. Will be interested to see when his next 'update' comes. Monthly? 3 monthly?
 
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An easy target for those looking around for someone to blame for some lean years in the last decade.

shame he dont put his hands in his pockets and match m/b investment, biggest waste of space in brentfords history lmoa ps should of stayed with the prawn sandwich brigade at old trafford

...see what i mean...
 

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He does speak sense, but does he do a whole lot else? Still, hes worth keeping for his connections and whatnot.
 

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As a chairman low profile is an over statement I supose some will say the fact he covered 100k of debt at a time when the club had debts of over 7 mill was a splendid gesture.GD as a high profile media man has never promoted our club whether on Marr on Sunday or articles in The Sunday Times any many other tv or newspaper appearances.Can honestly say one of the most impotent chairman this club has had in my time of supporting the club Christ he makes Swaisland look exciting
 

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He's the chairman of the club.
I believe he put a six figure sum into the club, at a time when we needed it desparately. (I could be wrong on that)
I also think he worked behind the scenes to get Mr Benham on board.

Greg Dyke is Greg Dyke.
An easy target for those looking around for someone to blame for some lean years in the last decade.

if he put doe in and more so if he got MB in then for that reason the man deserves praise
 

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As a chairman low profile is an over statement I supose some will say the fact he covered 100k of debt at a time when the club had debts of over 7 mill was a splendid gesture.GD as a high profile media man has never promoted our club whether on Marr on Sunday or articles in The Sunday Times any many other tv or newspaper appearances.Can honestly say one of the most impotent chairman this club has had in my time of supporting the club Christ he makes Swaisland look exciting

bring back Noades,yeah:rolleyes:
 

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He's the chairman of the club.
I believe he put a six figure sum into the club, at a time when we needed it desparately. (I could be wrong on that)
I also think he worked behind the scenes to get Mr Benham on board.

Greg Dyke is Greg Dyke.
An easy target for those looking around for someone to blame for some lean years in the last decade.

I think you are correct, smiffybee, re Greg Dyke and some investment (£100k?) some people are never happy...... Even when another fella sticks in £12.5 million people still have a moan..... It probably is a statement following on from the chant on Saturday. He's also explaining the structure of the club and where we're going and where MB sees the clubs future. As abee has stated already, £5 mill being pumped in this season alone into the whole structure of setting up facilities, from the youth to the 1st team squad. It will probably be another £5 mill next season too.
 

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Do me a favour mate, tell me what dyke does for this club.we all know what noades is and l fought him more than most.

to say Dyke is more impotent than noades answers it,what a joke.to knock Dyke putting a 100,000 in when debts at the time were 7 mill,again,who is the answer to us being 7 million in debt....
Dyke has done right already by,as you put it ,investing in money,when it was obviously needed.The man does have contacts and if its true that he played a massive part in getting Matthew Benham involved surey thats enough for praise
 

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Nice one Greg. Ignore the usual suspects on the groanvine. Onwards & upwards.
 

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GD as a high profile media man has never promoted our club whether on Marr on Sunday or articles in The Sunday Times any many other tv or newspaper appearances.

He's hardly likely to get much more time on tv if he goes on political shows like marrs and ****s on about a football club, 99.95% of whose viewers cant stand the game anyway or 'support' premier league teams. :)

Id rather have an impotent chairman then one with the raging horn for raping us like webb and noades, or one that sells parts of the ground and replaces them with stands designed by their kids playing with lego!
 

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He had nothing to do with getting matthew Benham to the club he is a life long fan during the time dyke was in the directors box at Manchester United.If you look at the club accounts you won't find any payments into the club by Dyke .
 

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He's the Chairman of course he is a figurehead thats what Chairmen generally are. We have a money man who prefers to shun the limelight so we don't need Greg Dyke to put his hand in his pocket. All he is doing is making a reconciliatory type statement to try to bring everyone at the club together following some indications that some factions within the home support have voiced their opinions in a way that has infuriated the Manager.

I can't see his statement as anything other than a positive move but it doesn't surprise me that some are trying to find reasons to denigrate it. I suppose that is life nowadays but I just wish we could pull together in the way Dyke is suggesting and understand and enjoy what Benham and Rosler are trying to achieve for our club. They are far more likely to succeed if that happens rather than being booed off for being level at HT.
 

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He's the Chairman of course he is a figurehead thats what Chairmen generally are. We have a money man who prefers to shun the limelight so we don't need Greg Dyke to put his hand in his pocket. All he is doing is making a reconciliatory type statement to try to bring everyone at the club together following some indications that some factions within the home support have voiced their opinions in a way that has infuriated the Manager.

I can't see his statement as anything other than a positive move but it doesn't surprise me that some are trying to find reasons to denigrate it. I suppose that is life nowadays but I just wish we could pull together in the way Dyke is suggesting and understand and enjoy what Benham and Rosler are trying to achieve for our club. They are far more likely to succeed if that happens rather than being booed off for being level at HT.

:imwith:

I'm amazed that people still try to have a pop.
 

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He had nothing to do with getting matthew Benham to the club he is a life long fan during the time dyke was in the directors box at Manchester United.If you look at the club accounts you won't find any payments into the club by Dyke .

its well documented Matthew Benham is a life long Bees fan,isnt Greg Dyke supposed to be too ? but my point was him getting MB actually involved with the club,not introducing him to the Club to be a fan
 
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He's the Chairman of course he is a figurehead thats what Chairmen generally are. We have a money man who prefers to shun the limelight so we don't need Greg Dyke to put his hand in his pocket. All he is doing is making a reconciliatory type statement to try to bring everyone at the club together following some indications that some factions within the home support have voiced their opinions in a way that has infuriated the Manager.

I can't see his statement as anything other than a positive move but it doesn't surprise me that some are trying to find reasons to denigrate it. I suppose that is life nowadays but I just wish we could pull together in the way Dyke is suggesting and understand and enjoy what Benham and Rosler are trying to achieve for our club. They are far more likely to succeed if that happens rather than being booed off for being level at HT.

amen Mr JTofBFC :imwith: :salute:
 
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He had nothing to do with getting matthew Benham to the club he is a life long fan during the time dyke was in the directors box at Manchester United.If you look at the club accounts you won't find any payments into the club by Dyke .

Greg Dyke loaned BU £100,000 via his company Vine Developments Ltd. This was at the time BU took over BFC from Ron Noades. I believe the loan is still outstanding.
 

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its well documented Matthew Benham is a life long Bees fan,isnt Greg Dyke supposed to be too ? but my point was him getting MB actually involved with the club,not introducing him to the Club to be a fan

I don't think Greg Dyke had anything to do with MB getting involved. MB came forward and approached another director at the time IIRC. But didn't want to join BU's takeover but wanted to help but under his own entity.
 

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He's the Chairman of course he is a figurehead thats what Chairmen generally are. We have a money man who prefers to shun the limelight so we don't need Greg Dyke to put his hand in his pocket. All he is doing is making a reconciliatory type statement to try to bring everyone at the club together following some indications that some factions within the home support have voiced their opinions in a way that has infuriated the Manager.

I can't see his statement as anything other than a positive move but it doesn't surprise me that some are trying to find reasons to denigrate it. I suppose that is life nowadays but I just wish we could pull together in the way Dyke is suggesting and understand and enjoy what Benham and Rosler are trying to achieve for our club. They are far more likely to succeed if that happens rather than being booed off for being level at HT.

Well put Sir. I just don't get some of the criticism on here.
 

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"Shut up with the moaning and learn some patience". Fully support that as a message. :yes:
 

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Stop Knockin' and get rockin' .
Stop booing the team,i.e. Stevenage at home, following a hard fought for point at 4th placed Notts County. Come on people get real !
Get to an away game and see the other side of the coin, see a team not playing under pressure, most likely winning or getting a draw.

People moaned about last seasons hoofball; this season I heard with my very own ears that we pass too much. mmmm !
Well I'm happy with our lot so far this season, success is not a divine right, big budget or no big budget, and I believe the club is moving in the right direction.
Onwards and upwards, and thanks for the update Mr. Dyke.
 

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Anbsolutely agree with Beebopalula. The club is fast developing it's most solid infrastructure (youth development, management on and off the field, coaching) that I can recall in 52 years and has vision and financial backing and I'm sure we can thank GD for much of that. Our position in L1 is impressive, our away form great (I get to see the Northern games) and the football attractive to watch. The home results will improve and hopefully the attendence also. Thanks GD and the board.
 

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I don't think Greg Dyke had anything to do with MB getting involved. MB came forward and approached another director at the time IIRC. But didn't want to join BU's takeover but wanted to help but under his own entity.

Correct. MB approached the Club and was referred to Eddie Rogers the then chairman. MB was already 'in' when GD became Chairman January 20 2006. MB put in an initial loan £500k plus a 'standby loan' £500k which was only supposed to be drawn down in absolute emergencies. MB's loan was more or less matched by ER who put in another £100k to being his loans to £200k in total plus GD £100k plus £250k from another supporter. John Herting's loan £250k was already in the Club and whilst 'rolled over' were not new monies. It was however clear that whatever cash flow forecasts had been used when the BU monies were raised were hopelessly optimistic and the January 2006 deal was done without BU having secured sufficient working capital. I believe that I posted as such at the time. The wheels fell off in short order to the point where supporters were told that DJ had to be sold to avoid going into immediate administration. Greg Dyke has a 'portfolio' life and it was made clear from the outset that he would be a figurehead chairman but he is always prepared to get down and dirty when needed and of course people take his calls. He puts as much time and more into the Club as he can spare but the BFC chairman does not have executive authority and thank goodness. I personally have observed enough of that in the past. The Club is now run by the Executive Team which reports to and is accountable to the board. The decision making arm of the Exec Team is Phil Whall, Mark Devlin and Bob Lampert. Mark Warburton and Uwe Rosler attend Exec Team meetings and both have a voice. I am leaving the board and Exec Team for personal reasons but am still on the 'fringe' of the Exec Team during the transition.
The statement from Greg was not by the way a reaction to the chants/songs and boos at the Chesterfield game. It may seem that way but it wasn't. The decision was taken at last Thursdays board meeting, two days before the Chesterfield game. The board was concerned that supporters expectations for this season may have reached irrational levels and whilst I certainly have done my best on here to explain where we are in the league table of playing budget spending it's clear that the message hadn't got through. It seems to me that those supporters who never wanted Uwe Rosler as team manager in the first place are among those who also expect the Club to in the top three or four with a top ten playing budget. This season the building blocks are being put in place. I replied to a post from Bill Benn last season when Andy Scott was under fire and I said that if season 2010-11 went south then we'd have to look at what we were doing wrong and start again. That is what happened. Andy Scott certainly to my mind had earned the right to manage us in League One but it didn't work out from the point of view of the football being played which is not what most of us wanted to be watching from a Brentford team. In terms of results it was not a failure.......we finished half way with a mid table playing budget but the board and MB wanted the playing side of the Club to go in a different direction. Hence the long search for a team manager who shared the vision and in whom MB and the board has complete confidence. The statement was carefully worded in order that it should not be seen as a vote of confidence and rather as an attempt to communicate with supporters on the direction in which the Club is heading and the goals. It is not a one season project and 'one season projects' at BFC in the past invariably have resulted in the 'money man' wanting his monies back in short order once the patience and/or the pain levels have run out. I have seen Dunnett, Lange and Noades all fall into this category although Lange was a genuine Brentford supporter who was the catalyst for getting us into the Championship but couldn't keep us there.
 
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What a good post from the a meister. Thanks for the info
 

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This is meant as a compliment...abee, especially for a finance man, your communication is 1st class. Thanks again for explaining exactly what's going on. I'll now see if you've given perspective on the Basingstoke decisions!
 

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Correct. MB approached the Club and was referred to Eddie Rogers the then chairman. MB was already 'in' when GD became Chairman January 20 2006. MB put in an initial loan £500k plus a 'standby loan' £500k which was only supposed to be drawn down in absolute emergencies. MB's loan was more or less matched by ER who put in another £100k to being his loans to £200k in total plus GD £100k plus £250k from another supporter. John Herting's loan £250k was already in the Club and whilst 'rolled over' were not new monies. It was however clear that whatever cash flow forecasts had been used when the BU monies were raised were hopelessly optimistic and the January 2006 deal was done without BU having secured sufficient working capital. I believe that I posted as such at the time. The wheels fell off in short order to the point where supporters were told that DJ had to be sold to avoid going into immediate administration. Greg Dyke has a 'portfolio' life and it was made clear from the outset that he would be a figurehead chairman but he is always prepared to get down and dirty when needed and of course people take his calls. He puts as much time and more into the Club as he can spare but the BFC chairman does not have executive authority and thank goodness. I personally have observed enough of that in the past. The Club is now run by the Executive Team which reports to and is accountable to the board. The decision making arm of the Exec Team is Phil Whall, Mark Devlin and Bob Lampert. Mark Warburton and Uwe Rosler attend Exec Team meetings and both have a voice. I am leaving the board and Exec Team for personal reasons but am still on the 'fringe' of the Exec Team during the transition.
The statement from Greg was not by the way a reaction to the chants/songs and boos at the Chesterfield game. It may seem that way but it wasn't. The decision was taken at last Thursdays board meeting, two days before the Chesterfield game. The board was concerned that supporters expectations for this season may have reached irrational levels and whilst I certainly have done my best on here to explain where we are in the league table of playing budget spending it's clear that the message hadn't got through. It seems to me that those supporters who never wanted Uwe Rosler as team manager in the first place are among those who also expect the Club to in the top three or four with a top ten playing budget. This season the building blocks are being put in place. I replied to a post from Bill Benn last season when Andy Scott was under fire and I said that if season 2010-11 went south then we'd have to look at what we were doing wrong and start again. That is what happened. Andy Scott certainly to my mind had earned the right to manage us in League One but it didn't work out from the point of view of the football being played which is not what most of us wanted to be watching from a Brentford team. In terms of results it was not a failure.......we finished half way with a mid table playing budget but the board and MB wanted the playing side of the Club to go in a different direction. Hence the long search for a team manager who shared the vision and in whom MB and the board has complete confidence. The statement was carefully worded in order that it should not be seen as a vote of confidence and rather as an attempt to communicate with supporters on the direction in which the Club is heading and the goals. It is not a one season project and 'one season projects' at BFC in the past invariably have resulted in the 'money man' wanting his monies back in short order once the patience and/or the pain levels have run out. I have seen Dunnett, Lange and Noades all fall into this category although Lange was a genuine Brentford supporter who was the catalyst for getting us into the Championship but couldn't keep us there.

Thanks abee for your time and your insight into explaining this issue and many others.
 

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Thanks abee AGAIN
I did have concerns that the statement by GD was in response of perhaps a situation where UR may well have said "I've had enough" glad to hear it was just an honest statement from our Chairman.
Keep the faith Bees
 

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I think it's a very good statement and for me serves as a reminder and a reality check that we haven't suddenly become a big, cash rich club overnight.
They are laying the foundations and planning for a successful future and maybe we need to remember that
although difficult when sat squirming while watching a poor home performance.
 
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