Halil Dervişoğlu - (June 2024 - Season Loan to FC Twente)

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Just read a tweet saying he's joining FC Twente on Monday
 

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Just read a tweet saying he's joining FC Twente on Monday
Wouldn't be surprised at all. He's not getting a look in at all at BFC - needs to get some games, match fitness and a bit of confidence.

Surprised - had really high hopes for him. Still might, but looking unlikely now.
 
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So, did he go to Twente? Haven't seen anything official on it. Presumably he's still here?
 

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So, did he go to Twente? Haven't seen anything official on it. Presumably he's still here?
Just waiting for the clearance.

This is the translation of the post from yesterday.

BREAKING: FC Twente agree with Dervisoglu and Brentford FC

Jan Streuer has today reached an agreement with Brentford FC and Dervisoglu. The 20-year-old attacker must provide the team with extra creative impulses.

"With that we have the two creative players that we wanted to have", says Streuer, who knows that Dervisoglu played at Sparta mainly as a forward. "But we think he can also play very well at 10."

Dervisoglu is rented for one season. FC Twente has had to renounce an option to buy. "Unfortunately, it is far too expensive for us," said Streuer in conversation with Ten Voorde of TC Tubantia.

With the arrival of Dervisoglu, FC Twente is ready on the transfer market. The club will only come into action if a major player decides to leave the club. The chance that this will happen is quite small.
 

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Just waiting for the clearance.

This is the translation of the post from yesterday.

BREAKING: FC Twente agree with Dervisoglu and Brentford FC

Jan Streuer has today reached an agreement with Brentford FC and Dervisoglu. The 20-year-old attacker must provide the team with extra creative impulses.

"With that we have the two creative players that we wanted to have", says Streuer, who knows that Dervisoglu played at Sparta mainly as a forward. "But we think he can also play very well at 10."

Dervisoglu is rented for one season. FC Twente has had to renounce an option to buy. "Unfortunately, it is far too expensive for us," said Streuer in conversation with Ten Voorde of TC Tubantia.

With the arrival of Dervisoglu, FC Twente is ready on the transfer market. The club will only come into action if a major player decides to leave the club. The chance that this will happen is quite small.
Blimey, your Dutch is very good Wanderer. Thank you.
 

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Hes too expensive for them , good to hear
 

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Confirmed by the club - Season long loan to FC Twente. I'm quite disappointed as I thought we would be seeing a lot of him this season.
 

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Strange that we let him stay in Holland for half a season to get regular game time so was hoping he would have been ready to at least be a regular from the bench.We have to put this down to a failure I suppose can’t expect to get them all right.Pity I had high hopes for him.
 

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He seems the sort of player that gets better in the minds of our fans the less he plays.... according to sum on twitter we’ve just loaned out Harry Kane.
 

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Good move round - he wasn't getting any game time here so he can go back to a league that he is familiar with and hopefully build some confidence
 

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Very confused about this one.

We haven't really seen him play apart from a couple of cameos but the club have had him for awhile so i'm in no doubt they know what they're doing.

Valencia had more game time and the consensus on here was he wasn't quite up to it so maybe that's an indication.
 

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Nailed on. They weren't having him so we've cut our losses. No shame in that.
I suspect we're going to be a lot more careful in the Dutch market. FloJo was the only success from there
 

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I suspect we're going to be a lot more careful in the Dutch market. FloJo was the only success from there
Wouldn't even really say he was a success with us tbh.
 
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Very confused about this one.

We haven't really seen him play apart from a couple of cameos but the club have had him for awhile so i'm in no doubt they know what they're doing.

Valencia had more game time and the consensus on here was he wasn't quite up to it so maybe that's an indication.
He's only been with us since January..
 

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Good luck to him, hopefully come back fitter and stronger.
 

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I don't understand some comments on here and social media. He hasn't pulled up trees when he has been given chances just like Valencia. Lack of game time to adapt and show his worth.
 
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Nailed on. They weren't having him so we've cut our losses. No shame in that.
I don't think that's the case. I think the whole Covid lockdown thing has hit his development with us so he's a bit behind where we want him to be. Sure he'll do well in Holland and we'll take it from there...
 

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When you look at sunday's performance and injury issues we might well have needed him in seeking our best permutation. We have issues in the mid and wide up front.I gather his issue may be inability to meet our requirements for a pressing game. Not sure he'll get that improvement in Holland. Shame. I've liked the little l've seen.
 
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I imagine being 20-year-old in a foreign country may have had an influence on being loaned back the The Netherlands.
 

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I just dont understand this, what is the point of him going to a league we know he can perform in already. Look what a loan in this country has done for Fross. Score goals in division one and that will do alot more then playing in a league you already know.
 

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I just dont understand this, what is the point of him going to a league we know he can perform in already. Look what a loan in this country has done for Fross. Score goals in division one and that will do alot more then playing in a league you already know.
A loan in League One would be better for his development if a team there wanted him and we see him as a future first teamer. A loan to the Eredivisie might be a better guarantee of playing time and an opportunity for him to excel, and so increase the chances we will make our money back, which probably tells a story.
 

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I just dont understand this, what is the point of him going to a league we know he can perform in already. Look what a loan in this country has done for Fross. Score goals in division one and that will do alot more then playing in a league you already know.
Because he won’t be coming back?! 🤷
 

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I honestly don't know if he will be coming back, but either way he will need games pretty soon if he's going to progress. My hope is that a season of first team football will put him in a place where he can contend, however there is a decent chance that he will return and then be moved on. We can assess next summer but him sitting on the bench and coming on if we're chasing the game isn't going to do much for him.

FloJo was good for us though, it was a risk (a low one) but it paid off well and we got a decent fee for him. He was a good part of that late season charge we had in the 2017/18 season.
 

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I don't understand some comments on here and social media. He hasn't pulled up trees when he has been given chances just like Valencia. Lack of game time to adapt and show his worth.
All I would say is that he doesn't really seem to have been given chances. I'm not sure TF knew where/how to play him. Can only assume he looked poor in training. That's a lot of money for someone who we don't seem to have given a chance to, so not sure what happened with out usual due diligence in scouting.

Ironically, if he's signed for the BFC of a few years ago, pre Watkins, Benrahma and Maupay, he would have got a lot more opportunities in the first team and I'm sure we would have seen a player grown in stature, confidence & quality. But he was never going to get that chance post lockdown and now, unless he set the world alight in 10 minute sub appearances - and who does that? Poor fella couldn't even make the squad.

And I would agree with a couple of others - loaning back to Holland indicates he ain't coming back.
 

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Dervisoglu seems to have struck lucky. Instead of the prospect of spending much of this season not in the first team of a second tier club in England he has been given the chance of playing for a leading Dutch team that recently won the Dutch First Division Championship .
 
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All I would say is that he doesn't really seem to have been given chances. I'm not sure TF knew where/how to play him. Can only assume he looked poor in training. That's a lot of money for someone who we don't seem to have given a chance to, so not sure what happened with out usual due diligence in scouting.

Ironically, if he's signed for the BFC of a few years ago, pre Watkins, Benrahma and Maupay, he would have got a lot more opportunities in the first team and I'm sure we would have seen a player grown in stature, confidence & quality. But he was never going to get that chance post lockdown and now, unless he set the world alight in 10 minute sub appearances - and who does that? Poor fella couldn't even make the squad.

And I would agree with a couple of others - loaning back to Holland indicates he ain't coming back.
He was always going to take a little while to adapt to our style. People forget he's only been here since Jan, so would have had 3 months of training the Brentford way then another few months doing nothing. Then he'll have not got much in the way of integration with the squad as they'll have been playing every other day. Back into a very short pre-season and the form of Forss and signing of Toney means he's still some way behind. Would be a shame if we've given up on him as he looks like he's got a lot about him. The reports from Twente said that they wanted a option to sign but they couldn't afford the v high figure we were quoting. That doesn't sound like we've given up on him entirely so maybe there's hope he'll come back from loan rejuvenated..
 

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I think Halil was essentially signed because Watkin's ability as a striker was still somewhat unknown and we essentially covered ourselves by planning to bring him over in January in case we needed a plan B/C in addition to Watkins and Karelis.

Watkins performing above and beyond all expectation unfortunately almost made Halil redundant before he'd even arrived.
 

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He seems the sort of player that gets better in the minds of our fans the less he plays.... according to sum on twitter we’ve just loaned out Harry Kane.
Well when Kane was going on loan to Millwall or Norwich, he wasn't exactly seen as a future superstar...

I think Halil will come good. If he doesn't, it's a shame but not the end of the world.
 
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I think Halil was essentially signed because Watkin's ability as a striker was still somewhat unknown and we essentially covered ourselves by planning to bring him over in January in case we needed a plan B/C in addition to Watkins and Karelis.

Watkins performing above and beyond all expectation unfortunately almost made Halil redundant before he'd even arrived.
No, I think we'd tracked him for a while. If we'd wanted him as back up we'd have paid the extra to get him in in August. The fact we let him play on in Holland until Jan suggests he's one we're happy to develop long term which is why I think he'll be back after this loan..
 

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