Halil Dervişoğlu

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He’s not an impaired asset. No reason we should sell for a knockdown price. Let’s sell for his actual market value. He may prefer not to go to Germany or Spain or somewhere…but his agent (!) seems to understand what money is and will eventually read the writing that is on the wall…
 

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Seems like gala fans are warming to him again…

I‘m just pleased that every GPGer is fluent in written Turkish, and so can understand what was posted. Otherwise, sticking a tweet on here in a foreign language would be absolutely ridiculous, achieve nothing whatsoever, and make the poster look…… strange.

BTW, have you read what Newcastle’s Directors have been discussing? In a field. In robes. With cows.

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I‘m just pleased that every GPGer is fluent in written Turkish, and so can understand what was posted. Otherwise, sticking a tweet on here in a foreign language would be absolutely ridiculous, achieve nothing whatsoever, and make the poster look…… strange.

BTW, have you read what Newcastle’s Directors have been discussing? In a field. In robes. With cows.

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Thanks Hat.
You very happily live up to your strapline😂
 

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I've watched quite a lot of Galatasary this year and, obviously, I focus on Halil. He is a skillful player and a pretty decent finisher. But he is no Ivan Toney. By that standard he is, basically, lazy. Premier league clubs cannot afford passengers. Unless he has a major change in attitude he will not make it in England.
Maybe your right. I personally think he done well in pre season for us, enough not let him go out on loan I thought. I remember one of the games and thought wow who is that player, due to me being quite a distance to recognising him, especially not seeing him all of the season before. He looked like a new player a better player.
 

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he has scored tonight for Gala

was surprised to see they are 13th in the league more than halfway through the season
 
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he has scored tonight for Gala

was surprised to see they are 13th in the league more than halfway through the season
Yeh, they're having a bit of a shocker.. Gala fans not happy on twitter and Halil has been getting some stick for not being able to put the ball in the net.
 

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I‘m just pleased that every GPGer is fluent in written Turkish, and so can understand what was posted. Otherwise, sticking a tweet on here in a foreign language would be absolutely ridiculous, achieve nothing whatsoever, and make the poster look…… strange.

BTW, have you read what Newcastle’s Directors have been discussing? In a field. In robes. With cows.

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Is the one on the right Wissa?
 

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Such a shame, clearly has talent and was a real sensation in his first season in the Eredvisie, but he doesn't appear to enjoy his football at all and seems to expect everything on a plate for him without having to put the graft in. Wonder whether his experience in Turkey will be sobering enough for him to come back here and knuckle down?
 

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Such a shame, clearly has talent and was a real sensation in his first season in the Eredvisie, but he doesn't appear to enjoy his football at all and seems to expect everything on a plate for him without having to put the graft in. Wonder whether his experience in Turkey will be sobering enough for him to come back here and knuckle down?
I doubt it very much.
 

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Doesn't look like he's in the Turkey squad. Pretty telling
 

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Best out of it, They're 2-0 down already.
 

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Great ability on the ball, on the books of PL club after signing for millions as a teenager, has played internationally, also at a good level in the Championship and at the top level in the Netherlands and in Turkey for some big clubs. Is still only just 22. Evidently there is something there, so I take no joy in seeing his potential unfulfilled.

All reminds me a little of Ravel Morrison, who had all the footballing ability and the prospects to go far in the game but clearly never truly had the desire and commitment to go along with it. At 29 he’s done very little in the game. Hopefully Halil does not go the same way.
 
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Ironically I think he'd be a much better fit in our current system as one of the wide attackers but he seems to have burned his bridges. Suspect a move is in everyone's interests this summer.
 

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Would take what the Turkish media say with a pinch of salt. If it was up to them then Halil would’ve signed for Galatasaray 100 times over in the summer, more than half those times permanently, even with Diagne coming the other way!
 

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Ironically I think he'd be a much better fit in our current system as one of the wide attackers but he seems to have burned his bridges. Suspect a move is in everyone's interests this summer.
Imagine as a young lad moving to a new country then about 2 months later being isolated for 4-5 months from not only friends and family at home but also from your team mates apart from during training. Who wouldn’t pine for familiarity and contact? Forget the long Covid rumours, Bryan who’d had a year with us and in the country has talked of how hard he found that time.

I agree a move is probably best for Halil now but it’s worth remembering how uniquely tough an integration to team and country Halil had on joining and perhaps to empathise. Maybe his natural personality, the degree of influence of his dad, and his playing style is one to have made it even harder but we’ll never know what might have been had he joined us in normal times.
 

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Imagine as a young lad moving to a new country then about 2 months later being isolated for 4-5 months from not only friends and family at home but also from your team mates apart from during training. Who wouldn’t pine for familiarity and contact? Forget the long Covid rumours, Bryan who’d had a year with us and in the country has talked of how hard he found that time.

I agree a move is probably best for Halil now but it’s worth remembering how uniquely tough an integration to team and country Halil had on joining and perhaps to empathise. Maybe his natural personality, the degree of influence of his dad, and his playing style is one to have made it even harder but we’ll never know what might have been had he joined us in normal times.

Well said AB. Some of the comments on this thread reveal an awful lot more about some of our “supporters” than they ever will about a twenty year old kid trying to adapt to a foreign country in the midst of Covid. I for one hope he has a really good career - whoever it’s with - preferably with dad at (very long) arm’s length.
 

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I never quite saw how he would fit with us but I wish him well. As AB says, he didn’t have the easiest of rides and hopefully playing in Turkey is the making of him
 

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If we can make a profit, then it is a lesson learned for someone. Thiught he had talent with the ball, but didn't seem happy with playing for my team. So, cheerio, all the best.
 

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question please as i haven't see him 'live' and only fleetingly on tv...what style of forward is he ? 'fox in the box' , 'physical leader', number ten, wide...

clues appreciated.

thanks!
 

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question please as i haven't see him 'live' and only fleetingly on tv...what style of forward is he ? 'fox in the box' , 'physical leader', number ten, wide...

clues appreciated.

thanks!
I think a bit of a pre-WH Benrahma- seems to stroll around but then is in the right place to charge forward either with or without the ball to score from edge of the box or tap in close to. Probably not interested in doing a high press. Made sense as a buy in Said’s last season to develop into that role but less sense after we focused in 20-21 on pressing from the front.
 

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Imagine as a young lad moving to a new country then about 2 months later being isolated for 4-5 months from not only friends and family at home but also from your team mates apart from during training. Who wouldn’t pine for familiarity and contact? Forget the long Covid rumours, Bryan who’d had a year with us and in the country has talked of how hard he found that time.

I agree a move is probably best for Halil now but it’s worth remembering how uniquely tough an integration to team and country Halil had on joining and perhaps to empathise. Maybe his natural personality, the degree of influence of his dad, and his playing style is one to have made it even harder but we’ll never know what might have been had he joined us in normal times.
All of this would make sense if the same problems weren't prevalent at his current club and this is without lockdowns, etc as a crutch to lean on.

I wish him well in his career but he's got to take ownership of how and why it's not worked out for him with us, Twente and now Galatasaray.

Shame really as there's a very good player buried in there somewhere but it unfortunately won't be with us and I'm fine with that.
 

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Many posters attempting to excuse Dervisoglu’s attitude/behaviour appear to have forgotten that he was signed in the preseason, when presumably he trousered a generous signing on fee, but was not due to start with Brentford until the following January. During the ensuing 4/5 months prior to his arrival it was reported that there were several serious attempts made to prevent his January start. So his reluctance to take part in our project had nothing to do with home sickness, loneliness, or COVID. This young man, or his father if that helps any sensitivity, was more than happy to take our money, but he has never wanted to play for us. Facts must be faced! Let’s hope that PG can salvage something from this rotten deal this coming summer
 

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I think a bit of a pre-WH Benrahma- seems to stroll around but then is in the right place to charge forward either with or without the ball to score from edge of the box or tap in close to. Probably not interested in doing a high press. Made sense as a buy in Said’s last season to develop into that role but less sense after we focused in 20-21 on pressing from the front.
thanks, AB.
 

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question please as i haven't see him 'live' and only fleetingly on tv...what style of forward is he ? 'fox in the box' , 'physical leader', number ten, wide...

clues appreciated.

thanks!
Mobile striker, he is fairly quick. Not sure how strong he is but he is 6ft so fairly tall. Problem is he doesn't like pressing by the looks of things, I get the feeling he isn't a team player. Sad because he has real talent on the ball, he showed some very impressive trickery once or twice in pre-season but I don't think we will see him play again
 

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Mobile striker, he is fairly quick. Not sure how strong he is but he is 6ft so fairly tall. Problem is he doesn't like pressing by the looks of things, I get the feeling he isn't a team player. Sad because he has real talent on the ball, he showed some very impressive trickery once or twice in pre-season but I don't think we will see him play again
Thanks, Jimmy. Interesting. Very
 
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Mobile striker, he is fairly quick. Not sure how strong he is but he is 6ft so fairly tall. Problem is he doesn't like pressing by the looks of things, I get the feeling he isn't a team player. Sad because he has real talent on the ball, he showed some very impressive trickery once or twice in pre-season but I don't think we will see him play again
Was up there at the top of Eredvisie dribbling stats, has a good eye for a pass, quick feet and can finish. The issue is that he generally seems very disinterested until he gets the ball, was never going to work when we were playing one up front as it's just not his game. Think he's been tried in that role at Galatasaray and it really hasn't worked.
 

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Was up there at the top of Eredvisie dribbling stats, has a good eye for a pass, quick feet and can finish. The issue is that he generally seems very disinterested until he gets the ball, was never going to work when we were playing one up front as it's just not his game. Think he's been tried in that role at Galatasaray and it really hasn't worked.
There is a real player in him but sadly his attitude and his dad have stopped him flourishing for us
 

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Followed his father on Insta. Can tell that he is a pain in the arse to deal with just by looking. Things such as "Brentford club did not accept the offer to rent the teams of Basaksehir, Kasimpasa, Besiktas, Twente, ADO Den Hag, Sparta, Swansea City, Huddersfield with carpet. We thank these wonderful clubs" Funnily enough, despite his claim, Halil got loaned to Twente
 

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Followed his father on Insta. Can tell that he is a pain in the arse to deal with just by looking. Things such as "Brentford club did not accept the offer to rent the teams of Basaksehir, Kasimpasa, Besiktas, Twente, ADO Den Hag, Sparta, Swansea City, Huddersfield with carpet. We thank these wonderful clubs" Funnily enough, despite his claim, Halil got loaned to Twente
Should of lent him to Huddersfield with carpet. Good championship level and get laid regularly.
 

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A weird one, he came with so much promise. Think the attitude is poor and therefore don't think we will see him again.
 

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