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Hereford have just been eliminated from the Conference playoffs on penalties after being 17 points clear of the third place team during the regular season. What's the point of playing quality football over 42 games when it's all pissed away for the sake of 10 days of manufactured playoff 'thrills'?
 
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How absolutely gutted must they be?
17 points clear at the end of the season, beat Chester too and then miss out on the lottery of penalties.

Think there is a very strong case for the play-offs to somehow be weighted to reflect league positions/points gained.
 
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One way would be for the team that just misses out on automatic promotion to skip the first round of the playoffs and go straight into the final.
 

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everyone knows the form at the start of the season...............can anyone name a team that has not won a big/important/must win game for the last 12 years?
 

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Santa Barbara Bee said:
Hereford have just been eliminated from the Conference playoffs on penalties after being 17 points clear of the third place team during the regular season. What's the point of playing quality football over 42 games when it's all pissed away for the sake of 10 days of manufactured playoff 'thrills'?

I agree SBB. I think that the play-off system has been great in maintaining a level of interest and excitement for most clubs through to the end of the season. However, there is no reward for year-long performance over the other contenders. I think that the two-leg decider should be abolished and the games played at the home field of the best performing team. That should include the final round. Imagine if we had played Stoke City at Griffin Park? Of course there is more money generated at the bigger venues.
 

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if the play-offs were scrapped QPHa's arses wouldn't be going this weekend as they'd already be up...

come on Wednesday, show something you haven't shown all season, some balls at Hillsborough..
 

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I've had a look at the changes. Absolute rubbish. If they're going to go for 6 teams, why not go for all 24? That way, we could have the anomaly of a team being relegated and promoted at the same time.

Take a look at Rugby League where a team like Saints often fields weakened teams because the league is less important than the playoffs.

Seems to me that the one leg system California Bee suggested is sensible. Or you could have it that the lower team has to win both games. Alternatively, in the case of a tie, the higher placed team should win.
 

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WarrenBee said:
The play off's are a joke and should be scrapped.

:cool: :cool:

I hate them, too many disappointments.

Why should the team who finish third over the season have to play another three games to justify going up when thay have got to their position on merit already?

look at the Bees, our team is down to a squad of 25(ish) players, they have played 40 odd games and are done in. The boys are knackered and some are carrying injuries, why should they have play another three games after the season has ended?

It is wrong, the play offs are sh*te.
 

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this must be a duplicate thread.... people whinge about it every season.... perhaps Hereford instead of going for the title should have let the rest of the catch up then they wouldn't have such a big gap ahead of the 3rd team and it would all be much fairer.
 

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JBN said:
I hate them, too many disappointments.

Why should the team who finish third over the season have to play another three games to justify going up...?

It is wrong, the play offs are sh*te.

One of the ideas behind the play-off season was to inject some purpose into the second half of the season for a large number of the league members. For many years there were two promoted and relegated every season from each of the top two divisions of 22 teams. For the Division Three teams, only one was promoted and the bottom club had to apply for re-election, something that seemed to be routinely granted in most cases. As a result, apart from a handful of teams in each league, the games became increasingly meaningless as the season wore on as the other clubs became out of reach of promotion or relegation. By having the current system, almost every game has importance as the top twelve and bottom twelve have the chance/risk of leaving that division as Brentford has this year.

That third (and fourth) promotion spot was created not specifically to reward another club with promotion but to broaden the involvement of more teams in the promotion and relegation struggles. I think it has succeeded. I believe there is still room to reward the higher place qualifiers by having the higher teams play their play-off games, including the final, on their home ground in a single-leg elimination.
 

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It was done to raise more cash, not a bad thing with football in its current situation.

The idea is, that it is a league, you play each team in the league, home and away and whoever has the most points wins the league.

Why should the third place team have to play the sixth place team to justify promotion to the next league? They have already played them home and away during the season and justified their third place.

Millwall could have been in the play offs. They run a reasonably small squad by some standards in the league. They play all their league games, have a good cup run and the players start to feel it. Injuries creep in and they have to play another three games to get promoted.

It isn't fair.
 

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I think Banana is thinking of Sepp Bloatters new idea.

If you have the right school tie and know the right handshake, you can win any football trophy or promotion, you like (a small fee may be charged to cover administration/holiday/new car/house in Monaco/pension etc etc)
 

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From the Football Dictionary:

tie:
When an American sport finishes in a draw resulting in "overtime". NEVER to be used when describing a result in Association Football when the teams have the same number of goals at the end of the game.
 

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Banana said:
From the Football Dictionary:

tie:
When an American sport finishes in a draw resulting in "overtime". NEVER to be used when describing a result in Association Football when the teams have the same number of goals at the end of the game.

Doesn't his post relate to final league position?
 

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Jimbee said:
Doesn't his post relate to final league position?
The result of a play-off game I believe having re-read it.

"Or you could have it that the lower team has to win both games. Alternatively, in the case of a tie, the higher placed team should win."
 

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Brings back memories of when we finished 2nd and still didn't get promoted cos the Premiership was being downgraded.

Yesterday when Barnet were playing Shrewsbury and Aldershot versus Hereford, away goals should've counted double for starters and also the team who finishes the season 21 points (or however many points) and in second place should have a goal start in the play off semi final game. Same for the 3rd place team against the 4th place team.
There should be some incentive for the team finishing 9 months of a long hard season above any other in the final League table and a goal start would be one such incentive. Or maybe one game instead of 2 legs and this being at the ground of the team finishing highest.

The play-offs are ok for making the season more intersting for more clubs longer into the 9 months of a season, but the rules need to be changed a little to help out the teams finishing higher
 
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