How Many Points Do We Need for the Playoffs?

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One away league win all season. Stop this PO talk nonsense.

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We're nearer the bottom of the table than the top. I can't see us getting relegated, we've had a good run of games, but we're not safe yet.
 
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We're nearer the bottom of the table than the top. I can't see us getting relegated, we've had a good run of games, but we're not safe yet.

I think another 17 which will give us 54 sh be enough
 

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51 more than enough

Actually think 46 47 will be enough this season Bolton Ipswich gone imho and Reading Rothham getting 20 more points will be a big ask. So get 50 as first target then see how many games left
 

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I don’t think Reading or Bolton have any chance of doubling their points tallies in less than half as many games remaining, would be astounded if any of the eventual relegated teams have more than about 46 points.
 

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Q. How Many Points Do We Need for the Playoffs?

A. Too many!
 

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How any one can think play offs were realistic is beyond me, the basics are defending well and giving little away, 4 goals against from Barnet says
defensive issues have yet to be resolved, and we have little in terms of back up for injuries,suspensions and drops in form.
 

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Q. How Many Points Do We Need for the Playoffs?

A. Too many!

Yes. Close the thread. Let's all chill out and enjoy mid table obscurity with some scintillating football at Griffin Park, an exciting cup run, and hopefully the introduction of one or two B teamers and Marcondes at some point.
 

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We're nearer the bottom of the table than the top. I can't see us getting relegated, we've had a good run of games, but we're not safe yet.

I think it will be a comfortable mid table finish, I think the PO ship has sailed.

This will either be a blip in our 10 match unbeaten run or we are enterring into another 5 game losing streak such is our way of the last 3-4 years.
 

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I think it will be a comfortable mid table finish, I think the PO ship has sailed.

This will either be a blip in our 10 match unbeaten run or we are enterring into another 5 game losing streak such is our way of the last 3-4 years.

After the last match I agree. I think that was the nail in the coffin.
Couldn't afford to lose another 3 points ground with the main rivals both winning.
Before that I'd have said we still had a small chance.
 

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After the last match I agree. I think that was the nail in the coffin.
Couldn't afford to lose another 3 points ground with the main rivals both winning.
Before that I'd have said we still had a small chance.
After the raggedness of Saturday I'd take any win against Villa just to reset the team and blow away the Forest hiccup. I also think a win will help given it'll be another 10 days before the next fixture against SW. Glad that this game is at home, under the lights, no better opportunity to move on and up. I thought the team looked a bit jaded on a poor pitch at Forest. BFC 2 AV 1
 

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After the raggedness of Saturday I'd take any win against Villa just to reset the team and blow away the Forest hiccup. I also think a win will help given it'll be another 10 days before the next fixture against SW. Glad that this game is at home, under the lights, no better opportunity to move on and up. I thought the team looked a bit jaded on a poor pitch at Forest. BFC 2 AV 1

Agree with that. The fear is a slip up on Wednesday and go out on Sunday and the season will just feel done.

If we can get four wins from Villa, Hull, SW, QPR, Boro and Sheff Utd. Chuck in a cup win against Swansea then at least it keeps things going into April, even if it does mean needing 8/10 wins for any chance of 6th.
 

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After the raggedness of Saturday I'd take any win against Villa just to reset the team and blow away the Forest hiccup. I also think a win will help given it'll be another 10 days before the next fixture against SW. Glad that this game is at home, under the lights, no better opportunity to move on and up. I thought the team looked a bit jaded on a poor pitch at Forest. BFC 2 AV 1

Me too. Despite Villa performing far from amazingly they've got plenty of quality and on their day are capable of scoring plenty. Would be happy with any win (or even a draw if I'm honest).
 

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Agree with that. The fear is a slip up on Wednesday and go out on Sunday and the season will just feel done.

If we can get four wins from Villa, Hull, SW, QPR, Boro and Sheff Utd. Chuck in a cup win against Swansea then at least it keeps things going into April, even if it does mean needing 8/10 wins for any chance of 6th.
Can't realistically see 4 wins in those 6 fixtures given 3 are away, I'd take 11/12pts which would represent a pretty decent return and take us closer to 50. I haven't the foggiest what order these pts will hypothetically come in, it could be the games u least expect a result in.
 

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Me too. Despite Villa performing far from amazingly they've got plenty of quality and on their day are capable of scoring plenty. Would be happy with any win (or even a draw if I'm honest).
TBH any Villa could turn up at GP, the 5/5 or 3/3 or the 0/3 at Wigan. They are the ultimate bi-polar team of the championship, hope it's the Reading/Wigan incarnation on Wednesday night.
 

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I don’t think Reading or Bolton have any chance of doubling their points tallies in less than half as many games remaining, would be astounded if any of the eventual relegated teams have more than about 46 points.

I don't think the bottom 3 will get more than 42 points!!
 
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However if you are one of the life's optimists then we only need to get to 68 points (2013 table). Which is 31 points from 17 matches = 1.82 points per match

IT'S ON!

It's BACK ON!!!!!
 

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A good win last night and a few results going our way this week. 11 points from the play offs, 12 points from the drop zone.

The balance is back in our favour.
 

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In my head we need 74 points - It may be less, it may be more but 74 is about average and looks about right this year.

We have 40 so another 34 from 45 allows us around 3 defeats and a draw from the remaining 15. It doesn't matter which order they come in but that remains my target - and I think we are off the curve at the moment, Forest is not a match I had pegged as a loss. The two away matches in March against Middlesbrough and Sheffield United are pivotal - Middlesbrough specifically because they would have to be considered one of our targets - assuming we can keep winning at home.

It's still a very long shot but we are playing great stuff and our form is near top of table.
 

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Difficult question: if you had a choice between winning the FA cup or securing the playoff spot which would you take? (if both wasn't an option)
 
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Five thirty eight give us 8% chance play offs
 

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It's unlikely but outside the top four the league is weak this year...
 

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It's possible but I think in one of his interviews Phil Giles said you've got to not just look at the points but the number of clubs above you and the chances of overhauling them. Think we've actually got a better chance of getting lucky with cup draws and really doing something special .Beat Swansea get a winnable quarter final and it would make sense put our eggs in that financial and emotional basket.
 

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Difficult question: if you had a choice between winning the FA cup or securing the playoff spot which would you take? (if both wasn't an option)

Play-off spot without a doubt, as it gives us a chance of making the PL. Both are unlikely, but winning the FA Cup is a lot more unlikely IMO.
 

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I don't have the heart to be rough on the team. They've been through a lot this season.
 

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Looking at some stats I don't think Bristol City have exactly been smashing teams off the park and are relying on being very tight at the back.
They've also had a run against some of the poorer teams and their next set of matches are much tougher.
Pretty decent chance that they'll start dropping points finally after this massive winning streak.

The other playoff spot rival Boro are the only team who've conceded less than Brizzle, and are similarly relying on this, since they're not scoring a lot of goals......a full 15 less goals than us.

The playofs are still a very tough ask.......but there are glimmers of hope to cling onto.....
 

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That has us finishing 12th with 63 - An additional 3 points would have us finishing 8th which I would happily take after the horrible slump we were in - but as others have said, what a wasted opportunity as we are undoubtedly one of the best 6 sides in the division.

Hardly a wasted opportunity, more like an unfortunate combination of circumstances.
 

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I'll start to believe its possible if we win our next 5 on the bounce including Sheff utd and Boro away. That happens? It's on
 

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Hardly a wasted opportunity, more like an unfortunate combination of circumstances.

Yea - I was looking for the right word - 'wasted' certainly wasn't it. It was an opportunity that was cruelly snatched away, through as you say, a series of unfortunate events.
 

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Personally I'll settle for another top 10 finish and finishing above QPha and Aston Villa.

Top 10 will be a dramatic achievement after that dismal, dismal run.
 

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45 points to play for and 30 is minimum points required and that will not guarantee anything.
If you look at the fact we are 14 points behind WBA, 13 behind Bristol City and 11 behind Middlesbrough and Derby respectively. Pick one to chase and it has to be the closest one and hope that they lose 4 we win 4 and then hope no clubs above us win 4 too. Ti's a tall order, but come middle o' March we will know more.
#optimist.
 

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Difficult question: if you had a choice between winning the FA cup or securing the playoff spot which would you take? (if both wasn't an option)

It's not difficult for me. I'm gobsmacked anyone would take a play-off spot over WINNING the FA Cup (and going into Europe). Good lord...
 
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