How will/should LR and other stadiums open/reopen to fans?

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Measures needed to be put in place for cinemas to re-open:

Socially distanced seating, with people from different households sitting apart, and with a limited capacity in each screen
Staggered start and finished times to avoid congestion in foyers
Hand sanitisers
Extra cleaning and staff training

Would still have thought that venue 'capacity' should be a determining factor.....
 

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I would expect the current GP season ticket holders to be the ones allowed in, the johnny come lately's will have to wait to start their glory hunting.
Going to be interesting how the club handle (reduced) tickets for the first/early games at LR.
Long standing ST holders/people with high TAPs v those that have paid 'premium prices' for best seats at LR........... appreciate that some people might fall into both categories, but there'll be some in the latter group that haven't been to GP much, if at all..............
 

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If ST holders account for - very roughly - half the capacity; no away fans; and people from the same household can sit in adjacent seats; there is a gap of two seats between each person/household; we have to register our intention to attend a week in advance (to free up the seats of those who won't be coming) - then I reckon most if not all will be able to get in. Someone just needs to start work on a programme to allocate the seats, as most people won't be getting the one they've paid for.

That assumes that the concourses/
toilets etc can cope with social distancing at half capacity.

Not easy, but doable?
 
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If ST holders account for - very roughly - half the capacity; no away fans; and people from the same household can sit in adjacent seats; there is a gap of two seats between each person/household; we have to register our intention to attend a week in advance (to free up the seats of those who won't be coming) - then I reckon most if not all will be able to get in. Someone just needs to start work on a programme to allocate the seats, as most people won't be getting the one they've paid for.

That assumes that the concourses/
toilets etc can cope with social distancing at half capacity.

Not easy, but doable?
The north stand could be an issue given how confined the concourse and area just outside of the stand are.
 

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The north stand could be an issue given how confined the concourse and area just outside of the stand are.
I can't see how they could open the food drink counters without overcrowding.

I think the concourses will be for access to the toilets only.
 

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If ST holders account for - very roughly - half the capacity; no away fans; and people from the same household can sit in adjacent seats; there is a gap of two seats between each person/household; we have to register our intention to attend a week in advance (to free up the seats of those who won't be coming) - then I reckon most if not all will be able to get in. Someone just needs to start work on a programme to allocate the seats, as most people won't be getting the one they've paid for.

That assumes that the concourses/
toilets etc can cope with social distancing at half capacity.

Not easy, but doable?
....just to say....I was informed by BFC only last week that STs were not available for N121....this section will be pay per game....this section along with possibly others around LR....including the away section....I would assume will accommodate ST holders who have already purchased....i'd guess the bun fight starts when some ST holders are offered seats in other parts of the ground as their seats are not available due to social distancing requirements....I can see this being a very sore head for the team at BFC who have been tasked to sort this out....I realise that by not taking up the ST option at LR it may be a long wait for myself family and a few friends to watch live my team in action....and I accept this.
 

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I would expect the current GP season ticket holders to be the ones allowed in, the johnny come lately's will have to wait to start their glory hunting.
I can't see how the club can woo new "customers" to invest in the project with ST's at Lionel Road, then tell them their money's not as good as someone else's. They may wish to reward loyal fans, but they equally won't want to alienate fans of the future before they even set foot in the stadium. Let's be realistic.
 

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I'll sit anywhere for the first games if it means getting back to watch the Bees. Got to be preferable to watching from my sitting room!!!!!!
 
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Here's what's being planned in Spain...

https://www.theguardian.com/footbal...apping-hands-la-liga-plans-for-return-of-fans

Spanish football is making plans for supporters to return to stadiums but they should not celebrate just yet. In fact, fans will be discouraged from celebrating at all.

A 16-page draft protocol put together by La Liga, and seen by the Guardian, will enforce physical distancing in the stands, staggered arrival times and registration for those who want tickets. It also recommends supporters “avoid embracing and slapping hands”, which may prove difficult if there is a 90th-minute winner.

The document is incomplete and not expected to be applied before the beginning of next season on 12 September. It is being prepared on the understanding a fans’ return could be brought forward – not least because some clubs are beginning to prepare their own protocols to present to local health authorities and to push for a return in the short term.


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According to the draft, fans will have to sign up in advance, provide ID and details of any health conditions. A club will then decide who gets tickets based on the numbers and the size of the stadium. There will be no away supporters. Season-ticket holders – expected to be the only supporters in the ground, depending on demand – will not get their normal seats; they will, though, be given seats of a comparable value.

No specific limits to the number or percentage of fans allowed in has been set but stadium capacities will be reduced significantly to maintain a distance of 1.5m between people. Three rows of seats behind the goals will be reserved for photographers and the seats behind the dugout will be occupied only by substitutes, coaches and medical staff.

Fans will be given one of up to five 15-minute slots during which they must arrive at the ground. Those slots start an hour and a half before the game, with the most vulnerable supporters among the last to arrive. Every club will have to construct an outer rim around the stadium allowing for two check-points and supporters will be asked to remain in their seats. They will all have to wear masks and will be given two small bottles of water upon entry as there will be no food or drink on sale.

At the end of the game, fans will leave the ground by row, with those closest to the exits departing first. They will be discouraged from using public transport. Should there be any outbreaks of Covid-19 among spectators, clubs will provide the health authorities will a list of the people who sat near those infected.


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This week Espanyol announced their intention to request the return of supporters before the end of the season, following the formal end of Spain’s state of alarm on Sunday. Las Palmas had said they intended to do so on the first weekend of football’s return, as the Canary Islands were already in phase three of the government’s plans for the de-escalation of the lockdown and the decision would thus theoretically lie with the local authority.

Las Palmas’s move was blocked by the central health ministry and the country’s sports ministry, whose president, Irene Lozano, says that fans should be allowed back only when they can do so at every club. Many clubs though are preparing to play in front of their fans for the final three or four rounds of games.

Some clubs, such as Real Madrid, Osasuna and Levante, are unable to bring fans back because of building work which they accelerated when lockdown began on the assumption there would be no supporters for the rest of the season and probably not even until after Christmas. They are unhappy at the suggestions that some clubs may welcome back their faithful faster, arguing that offers an unfair advantage.
 

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So if I’m moved out of the Dug Out to say West Stand do I get a rebate on my ticket
I have no idea, the club are not discussing, externally anything about that yet.
 

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Yes, but who are the 6,000 getting in when we now have 10,000 season ticket holders? Who deserves a ticket over another? What is your solution?
It may be that many of us ancients (and there are quite a lot of us) might give up their seat in exchange for free ifollow especially if the infection rates continue at high levels. Maybe not just ancient ones. Otherwise a simple rationing system, again including free iFollow, should be easy to organize, especially with all those blokes we have that are good at sums.
 

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I can't see how the club can woo new "customers" to invest in the project with ST's at Lionel Road, then tell them their money's not as good as someone else's. They may wish to reward loyal fans, but they equally won't want to alienate fans of the future before they even set foot in the stadium. Let's be realistic.
They will offer refunds to the new fans.
 

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I can't see how they could open the food drink counters without overcrowding.

I think the concourses will be for access to the toilets only.
Would make sense, it is only short term, social distancing will gone soon enough.

However it is only 1M now so it will be like anywhere including pubs, stand in a queue at first then all just mingle in like everybody is doing everywhere now anyway.
 

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Don’t get too excited. Portugal has just reintroduced lockdown.
That is not actually what has happened though is it. There is a spike in Lisbon so they are introducing an 8PM curfew, that is not "re-introducing a lockdown"

There will be spikes all over the place and will be dealt with as and when.
 

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Our stewards are bad enough as it is getting them to enforce social distancing just plays into there hands and you’ll be standing before a magistrate in no time
 

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That is not actually what has happened though is it. There is a spike in Lisbon so they are introducing an 8PM curfew, that is not "re-introducing a lockdown"

There will be spikes all over the place and will be dealt with as and when.
Isn’t it? I heard it on yesterday mornings Today Programme, BBCR4. The words, “Portugal has reintroduced lockdown” were definitely in the report. I’m actually more impressed by the fact that it has got at least two people going so much.
 

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Isn’t it? I heard it on yesterday mornings Today Programme, BBCR4. The words, “Portugal has reintroduced lockdown” were definitely in the report. I’m actually more impressed by the fact that it has got at least two people going so much.
i got told off over this

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Isn’t it? I heard it on yesterday mornings Today Programme, BBCR4. The words, “Portugal has reintroduced lockdown” were definitely in the report. I’m actually more impressed by the fact that it has got at least two people going so much.
I heard it too.
 
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Isn’t it? I heard it on yesterday mornings Today Programme, BBCR4. The words, “Portugal has reintroduced lockdown” were definitely in the report. I’m actually more impressed by the fact that it has got at least two people going so much.
I believe they’ve reintroduced some elements of lockdown which includes an 8pm curfew. So you’re both right, ish.

Shame as they were looking at letting some locals into the CL games which I very much doubt will happen now.

From Reuters:

Reuters) - Portugal will bring back the stay at home rule in several areas of Greater Lisbon to fight a worrying wave of coronavirus cases on the city's outskirts, the government announced on Thursday.

Those living in the affected areas - a total of 19 civil parishes that do not include downtown Lisbon - can only leave their homes to buy essential goods, such as food or medication, and to travel to and from work.
 

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i got told off over this

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....aye....so did I.....and you and mhead were both right....we can't equate what's going on in other country's to what's going on in blighty....untill of course it happens here....let's just hope it doesn't and that in 3 months time the EFL and it's stakeholders have devised a plan to get us into football grounds.
 

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I think there’s a lot of guesswork going on. Wether there is a second wave or the virus evolves into something less harmful is not clear to me. Some people believe it is a hoax and some of those have died.
 

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....aye....so did I.....and you and mhead were both right....we can't equate what's going on in other country's to what's going on in blighty....untill of course it happens here....let's just hope it doesn't and that in 3 months time the EFL and it's stakeholders have devised a plan to get us into football grounds.
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....aye....so did I.....and you and mhead were both right....we can't equate what's going on in other country's to what's going on in blighty....untill of course it happens here....let's just hope it doesn't and that in 3 months time the EFL and it's stakeholders have devised a plan to get us into football grounds.
I heard from someone highly placed at a championship club that the EFL have discussed plans next season to allow spectators using the following guidelines. Each club can accomodate half of their capacity, this will help lower league clubs who could possibly achieve their pre-virus average gates. No away support will be allowed unless strict segregation can be achieved & home allocation not taken up., allocation will be given similar to cup tickets i.e season ticket holders, club members downwards & although you can get a ticket you will be told where you can sit, the 50% maximum capacity will be divided between the 4 sides of the ground leaving enough spaces between to satisfy social distancing. You could be seated anywhere in the ground & you will not know until you receive your ticket. very reliable source & would seem quite workable, any thoughts from others?
 

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I quite like the idea of being able to try out different parts of Lionel Road before we settle into 'our' seats.
 

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Baggsie a box then
....indeed....won't be any of them given up in the new world order of football stadia.....can't see any patrons from that particular section of LR roughing it with the serfs of the North Stand.
 

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Bees face masks just arrived in the post, ready for wearing at the opening of LR.

One dark blue and one red for Mrs PB and me. I'm bagging the blue one - discrete and stylish for the discerning gentleman supporter.
 

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Bees face masks just arrived in the post, ready for wearing at the opening of LR.

One dark blue and one red for Mrs PB and me. I'm bagging the blue one - discrete and stylish for the discerning gentleman supporter.
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Bees face masks just arrived in the post, ready for wearing at the opening of LR.

One dark blue and one red for Mrs PB and me. I'm bagging the blue one - discrete and stylish for the discerning gentleman supporter.
I got 2 adult ones - one red and white and the other black and yellow (which looks very nice) and 1 kids one in the third kit blue and gold.
 

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Tentative suggestion/rumour on the @beesotted post -Wigan podcast that there may be scope for some supporters to attend Championship Play Off Final......
Any more details??
 

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Tentative suggestion/rumour on the @beesotted post -Wigan podcast that there may be scope for some supporters to attend Championship Play Off Final......
Any more details??
Just rumours, they may allow 10 - 15k in for the FA CUP final, so it is possibly they could do the same for the Play-offs. Pure speculation though at the moment.
 
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Tentative suggestion/rumour on the @beesotted post -Wigan podcast that there may be scope for some supporters to attend Championship Play Off Final......
Any more details??
It’s possible thought I would’ve thought the Govt will want the ‘test’ events to be games where there’s not much at stake

The community shield, if it happens, is nailed on to be the first game with fans, IMO.
 

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Tentative suggestion/rumour on the @beesotted post -Wigan podcast that there may be scope for some supporters to attend Championship Play Off Final......
Any more details??
What is the "ChampionshipPlayOffFinal" you talk of? Never heard of it. All know is we play Charlton tomorrow.
 

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Just rumours, they may allow 10 - 15k in for the FA CUP final, so it is possibly they could do the same for the Play-offs. Pure speculation though at the moment.
15K in a 90K stadium you would have 6 seats to yourself so it would appear fairly full. The issue would probably be regarding transport and getting there and back.
 

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Tentative suggestion/rumour on the @beesotted post -Wigan podcast that there may be scope for some supporters to attend Championship Play Off Final......
Any more details??
On the basis of how it is going at the moment, they seem to be doing better without us there!
 

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On the basis of how it is going at the moment, they seem to be doing better without us there!
Certainly seem more comfortable playing out of the back without us fans panicking and taking sharp intakes of breath or shouting “hoof it”
 
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Certainly seem more comfortable playing out of the back without us fans panicking and taking sharp intakes of breath or shouting “hoof it”
I'm sure they desperately miss "get it forward" and "stop messing about at the back"....
 
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