Ivan Toney - Signs to June 2025

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So Ivan, why Brentford when gthere must have been loads of clubs in for you?

"I watched Brentford last year, I loved the way they play and thought I could do well there, when they came in for me it was a no brainer"

What he forgot to say was "until I realised when I said I want to play in the premiership a whole load of their dumb arse fans started abusing me and saying if you don't want to play for us you bertie big bollo just F Off, we don't want you anyway drone drone drone"
 

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could he play wide if push comes to shove? seems to have an all-round game.
I think likelihood is if we did play Forss and Toney together they would play on left and through the middle and constantly alternate during a game. If can achieve it could be very effective at pulling defenders apart but on downside it may reduce both of their effectiveness.
Something that would have to be tried from the bench on a few occasions to see if could work.
 

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Thank God (or Matthew) for this man. Couldn't score in the proverbial brothel without him atm.
 

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He only needs one chance...
 

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Looked to be hobbling a bit when substituted and had strapping on his leg......or was he just helping to run the clock down??.........
 

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Looked to be hobbling a bit when substituted and had strapping on his leg......or was he just helping to run the clock down??.........
He started the game with that strapping on.
 

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We dont play many balls into his feet and that is making our control in the final third very tough.
 

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We dont play many balls into his feet and that is making our control in the final third very tough.
To be fair, he actually won quite a few balls coming deep but no-one got close enough to benefit, apart from one time first half I think when Josh picked up a header back. Hopefully we'll start to see midfielders and wide men anticipating that better. Pontus played a couple of neat disguised balls into his feet so hopefully we can work on that too..
 

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It was an excellent finish pulled away from his marker and a really deft header to find the corner of the net. Not as smooth on the eye as Ollie was but this guy is shaping up to be some player for us. What is also commendable is his overall work-rate and notable defensive efforts. Another feather in the DF's caps for sure.
 

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I massively respect our recruitment team, but with respect signing the League one top scorer and player of the year for north of £5million up front, is hardly finding him playing in the Azerbaijanian third division.
 
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I massively respect our recruitment team, but with respect signing the League one top scorer and player of the year for north of £5million up front, is hardly finding him playing in the Azerbaijanian third division.
Yes but we had the courage of our convictions and put the money down.
Nobody else did.
 

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It was an excellent finish pulled away from his marker and a really deft header to find the corner of the net. Not as smooth on the eye as Ollie was but this guy is shaping up to be some player for us. What is also commendable is his overall work-rate and notable defensive efforts. Another feather in the DF's caps for sure.
Do agree, however, I do have a slight worry that we may be developing the ‘Hit the Big Man’ syndrome. Few goals now scored by anyone else so it will soon become Stop Toney Stop Brentford.
 

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Do agree, however, I do have a slight worry that we may be developing the ‘Hit the Big Man’ syndrome. Few goals now scored by anyone else so it will soon become Stop Toney Stop Brentford.
In last couple of seasons at beginning of the season wasn’t that a similar story with Maupay and Watkins until we started clicking? Difference with the former was we were also then very leaky at the back. On that subject remarkable that we were at Xmas in relegation territory when we had players in side such as Watkins Maupay Benrahama Konsa and Mepham who between them have reaped us close to £100m!
 

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Do agree, however, I do have a slight worry that we may be developing the ‘Hit the Big Man’ syndrome. Few goals now scored by anyone else so it will soon become Stop Toney Stop Brentford.
Understand that we do need some of our other attacking players to start popping a few goals in as well, Dasilva does look the only other likely scoring source at time other than set pieces. Mbeumo temporarily seems to have misplaced his scoring boots.
 

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Understand that we do need some of our other attacking players to start popping a few goals in as well, Dasilva does look the only other likely scoring source at time other than set pieces. Mbeumo temporarily seems to have misplaced his scoring boots.
In terms of shots per game, the current top 5 (with goals and assists) this season is:

Toney 2.5 (11+)
Mbeumo 1.7 (1+5)
Marcondes 1.6 (0+1)
Canós 1.6 (0+0)
Dasilva 1.4 (1+1)

Forss 0.6 (4+0) but in 172 minutes!
Jensen 0.6 (0+3) is the second-highest assists.

There's a lot more needed from the other attacking players.
 

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In terms of shots per game, the current top 5 (with goals and assists) this season is:

Toney 2.5 (11+)
Mbeumo 1.7 (1+5)
Marcondes 1.6 (0+1)
Canós 1.6 (0+0)
Dasilva 1.4 (1+1)

Forss 0.6 (4+0) but in 172 minutes!
Jensen 0.6 (0+3) is the second-highest assists.

There's a lot more needed from the other attacking players.
The point there is that they're getting the chances. Goals will come. Reckon Marcondes will probably be key this year.
 

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The point there is that they're getting the chances. Goals will come. Reckon Marcondes will probably be key this year.
I would say we are creating less chances (at the minute).

I dont think we have got IT involved in recent games. Hes taking his chances which is brilliant but in terms of getting him in behind on a run im yet to see it. Once the wide players are up to speed and we get runners off him and closer im sure we will be a real threat in the final third. Looked slightly frustrated in the last two games.
 

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I would say we are creating less chances (at the minute).

I dont think we have got IT involved in recent games. Hes taking his chances which is brilliant but in terms of getting him in behind on a run im yet to see it. Once the wide players are up to speed and we get runners off him and closer im sure we will be a real threat in the final third. Looked slightly frustrated in the last two games.
In last couple of seasons at beginning of the season wasn’t that a similar story with Maupay and Watkins until we started clicking? Difference with the former was we were also then very leaky at the back. On that subject remarkable that we were at Xmas in relegation territory when we had players in side such as Watkins Maupay Benrahama Konsa and Mepham who between them have reaped us close to £100m!
Agree,although the fact that 15 of our 18 goals this season have come from Ivan and Marcus,is a little worrying.Over 30 goals last year from our wide men,not much sign of that so far this year.
 

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Agree,although the fact that 15 of our 18 goals this season have come from Ivan and Marcus,is a little worrying.Over 30 goals last year from our wide men,not much sign of that so far this year.
Totally agree, we need other players to contribute, have been saying that for weeks. Toney will not play every game, or very unlikely.
 

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Agree,although the fact that 15 of our 18 goals this season have come from Ivan and Marcus,is a little worrying.Over 30 goals last year from our wide men,not much sign of that so far this year.
Though worth remembering 14 of Said’s 17 came after the turn of the year.
 

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I would say we are creating less chances (at the minute).

I dont think we have got IT involved in recent games. Hes taking his chances which is brilliant but in terms of getting him in behind on a run im yet to see it. Once the wide players are up to speed and we get runners off him and closer im sure we will be a real threat in the final third. Looked slightly frustrated in the last two games.
I think that the reason why we have not got Toney involved recently is that the opposition have closed down the supply to him which may account for Da Sylva being kicked up in the air these last few games. Stop the supply to Toney stop Brentford.
 

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... and ‘Boro had a player who stayed within 2m distance of Jensen for the same reason.
 

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What a wonderful start to his Brentford career, and potentially a better all round striker than Ollie.... but it made me think. Have we changed the way we play at all in order to accommodate such a physical and strong forward?

In no way am I having a dig here, but genuinely curious to know what others think about this. Obviously we’re not playing the “liquid football” we’ve been spoilt with over the last few years right now. I was watching Arse v Villa and some of Villas football was sensational, and honestly reminded me of well, us! Something to do with Ollie maybe? (Obviously DS too)
You'll find support/creative players will get lazy, because of his presence they will go long at any opportunity, its a testament to how good he is, but the downsides are what happens when he leaves and players are used to going long at the first opportunity, Its something that coaching staff will need to address, to get defenders and midfielders playing on the floor despite his physical presence.
 

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You'll find support/creative players will get lazy, because of his presence they will go long at any opportunity, its a testament to how good he is, but the downsides are what happens when he leaves and players are used to going long at the first opportunity, Its something that coaching staff will need to address, to get defenders and midfielders playing on the floor despite his physical presence.
we don't go long at every opportunity. We played controlled passing football at Barnsley
 

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There’s fans who love us to go long at every opportunity! (Those that call it Plan B.)
 

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There’s fans who love us to go long at every opportunity! (Those that call it Plan B.)
Oh I'm not being critical, I'm just saying what we saw at posh, its something that CAN happen, that has probably become a problem if the team stop using it as plan B and lose quality when executing plan A as a result.

We're still dealing with the exit of Toney and the impact on our creativity if Clarke-Harris isn't on it, or is out, or isn't able to make the physical impact. He's not even an imitation of Toney.
 

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this guy - has anyone scored more goals than IT in their first 14 league games. I honestly don't know but would like to know.
 

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this guy - has anyone scored more goals than IT in their first 14 league games. I honestly don't know but would like to know.
Their debut season? Unlikely.

Holliday hit 17 goals in first 14 games at the start of 1932/33.
 
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