Ivan Toney - Signs to June 2025

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Does credit have to go to the club or at least some of it? Clayton, Grey, Hogan, Maupay, Ollie. The list goes on. Strikers playing to our type of play.
That is the genius approach of this club (dare i use the Moneyball word!). We don't buy players then try to shoehorn them into our way of playing, we look for players that already fit our way. Not point in buying Jota then asking him to be a hard-tackling midfielder. And yet so few clubs have really cottoned on to this yet.
 

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That is the genius approach of this club (dare i use the Moneyball word!). We don't buy players then try to shoehorn them into our way of playing, we look for players that already fit our way. Not point in buying Jota then asking him to be a hard-tackling midfielder. And yet so few clubs have really cottoned on to this yet.
Because of changes of managers/coaches most clubs do not have an "our way". Bees seem to plan further into the future than most clubs.
 

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Because of changes of managers/coaches most clubs do not have an "our way". Bees seem to plan further into the future than most clubs.
I know this not the correct place to put this text but.

I wonder is this because of the guide lines set up by Matthew Benham as a fan who wants success . Where as a lot of other owners it’s “ play thing” or a away of balancing their financial situation by having a loss making area
 

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Posh fan RE: Toney

The only weak attribute I can think of at top Championship level is his left foot accuracy, though its improving all the time, he's the best striker we've seen in terms of being an everything player I've seen at the club in 15 years, and in terms of potential I think everyone will be astounded if at his peak he doesn't make regular appearances for the right premier league club.

The posh fans who didn't rate him were either bitter or winding you up ;)

Former posh strikers (only) ordered in terms of quality only one other matches Ivan Toney, and I think most would choose Toney for his completeness, and that is Dwight Gayle,

Posh sales ranked - top tier IMHO

1. Ivan Toney in 6-12 months
2. Dwight Gayle at his peak in the Championship
3. Britt Assombalonga before series of injuries in Championship
4. Ivan Toney when he last played for posh
5. Britt Assombalonga now (just injury after injury in championship)
6. Britt Assombalonga when he last played for posh

Probably decent championship strikers if not now, in time

7. Jack Marriott will no doubt be a good Championship striker at his best
8. Matt Godden (Amazed he made it to the championship - though he was very good at L1, but a distance from even Jack Marriott for us in L1 - I think this is his peak though, may never secure himself permanently in the Championship

Not quite cutting it above, but excellent in L1

9. Craig Mackail Smith before his injury at Brighton if you made the goal bigger
10. Conor Washington in spells
11. Aaron McLean - seemed to decline rapidly prematurely even at L1 level after being sold by us to Hull, so not sure what happened, maybe just his legs went a bit too early

I think you have a future premier league striker, I think it could be 5 to 10 years before we see a player of his quality again, unless we go up, and then stay up. (in the CF position)
 

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Wow, sometimes it is like you're bored and just looking for an argument. I did not call him that, you are the only one who is saying that. Yawn.
 

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Posh fan RE: Toney

The only weak attribute I can think of at top Championship level is his left foot accuracy, though its improving all the time, he's the best striker we've seen in terms of being an everything player I've seen at the club in 15 years, and in terms of potential I think everyone will be astounded if at his peak he doesn't make regular appearances for the right premier league club.

The posh fans who didn't rate him were either bitter or winding you up ;)

Former posh strikers (only) ordered in terms of quality only one other matches Ivan Toney, and I think most would choose Toney for his completeness, and that is Dwight Gayle,

Posh sales ranked - top tier IMHO

1. Ivan Toney in 6-12 months
2. Dwight Gayle at his peak in the Championship
3. Britt Assombalonga before series of injuries in Championship
4. Ivan Toney when he last played for posh
5. Britt Assombalonga now (just injury after injury in championship)
6. Britt Assombalonga when he last played for posh

Probably decent championship strikers if not now, in time

7. Jack Marriott will no doubt be a good Championship striker at his best
8. Matt Godden (Amazed he made it to the championship - though he was very good at L1, but a distance from even Jack Marriott for us in L1 - I think this is his peak though, may never secure himself permanently in the Championship

Not quite cutting it above, but excellent in L1

9. Craig Mackail Smith before his injury at Brighton if you made the goal bigger
10. Conor Washington in spells
11. Aaron McLean - seemed to decline rapidly prematurely even at L1 level after being sold by us to Hull, so not sure what happened, maybe just his legs went a bit too early

I think you have a future premier league striker, I think it could be 5 to 10 years before we see a player of his quality again, unless we go up, and then stay up. (in the CF position)
You've just settled an argument I was having with myself about which was his stronger foot. He seemed to have been hitting everything with his left foot last few games, culminating in a very sweet strike for his opener yesterday. But there was something about his technique when smashing the ball into the side netting which told me that this was probably his weaker foot. Something to do with his standing leg remaining routed to the ground, I think. I'm a left-footer, and I know that if I shoot on the turn with my left, there will be a moment when both feet are off the ground, whereas if I shoot with my completely useless right, the left completely refuses to leave the ground.

All this said, Ivan's a bit better than me. ;)
 

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Hold on that's harsh. What did I do to deserve that?
Wow, sometimes it is like you're bored and just looking for an argument. I did not call him that, you are the only one who is saying that. Yawn.
I'm not saying that you intentionally called him that, but you did. Hence my point to you, which you dismissed with your hilarious GIF 🙄
 

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I'm not saying that you intentionally called him that, but you did. Hence my point to you, which you dismissed with your hilarious GIF 🙄
What? Ivan Toney is a ****?
Oh no, sorry. Someone seems to have gone off topic. Silly me. :backtotopic:
 

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Indeed. I wonder how many thought we would upgrade on Ollie but we have.
Hang on a minute. It is looking good at the moment but he is only a few games into his Bees career. Let's see how it goes over the next 10-15 games. He might well be better than Ollie but let's not hang that round his neck yet.
 

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Hang on a minute. It is looking good at the moment but he is only a few games into his Bees career. Let's see how it goes over the next 10-15 games. He might well be better than Ollie but let's not hang that round his neck yet.
He is a lot more physical than Ollie was until the end of his time with us. He's not quite as smooth linking with his team-mates, but was Ollie when he hadn't been playing with Said and Bryan for half a season or more?

I think he's the real deal and I think he's potentially a very good Premier League striker.

But I also think Ollie has everything and should be on England's radar.
 

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Off topic but yo be fair to @wibs it has taken on a new meaning over the years...akin to calling someone a “wally”...
I used to call my son a “berk” in public when he did something silly...until it was pointed out to me the Cockney rhyming slang origins 🤦🏻‍♂️🤣🤷🏻‍♂️

*disclaimer: I haven’t looked up the origins of that terms so it could have originally been equally
 

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On topic though...
Oh my what a player we have on our hands here...
Loving the sh*thousery celebration mocking the Wednesday scorer 🤣🤣🤣
 

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He is a lot more physical than Ollie was until the end of his time with us. He's not quite as smooth linking with his team-mates, but was Ollie when he hadn't been playing with Said and Bryan for half a season or more?

I think he's the real deal and I think he's potentially a very good Premier League striker.

But I also think Ollie has everything and should be on England's radar.
They are both excellent, and quite different players. Olie is a rapier, and Ivan is a stonking great broadsword.
 

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Hang on a minute. It is looking good at the moment but he is only a few games into his Bees career. Let's see how it goes over the next 10-15 games. He might well be better than Ollie but let's not hang that round his neck yet.
I don't see it as just about goals. He edges Ollie IMO because he is more aggressive,stronger, a better finisher and more often in the zone.
 

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Maupay was fantastic,Watkins was fantastic,Toney is fantastic and our recruitment is FANTASTIC :sorted:
...not forgetting that our service is fantastic. All three aforementioned have inhabited a strikers' dreamland.
 

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Love this. (The Darragh MacAntony clip, not the kid he inspired.)

This is interesting as wasn't aware of what Ivan's add ons were. From this clip:

"£1m if they go up"
"another £1m if they stay up"
"another £1m on goals scored"
'if they sold him for 30-40m we get £3-4m"

Fair to say Darragh's going to be our cheerleader this year!
 

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Will score 30 goals plus for us this season. I would also add that this doesn't mean he is a upgrade on Watkins or last year Watkins was a upgrade on Maupay. They are all different players, I am convinced if we had Watkins this year he would have smashed it and Maupay would have smashed it last year for us. Let's just be thankful we have got a good recruitment team.
 

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Great assist for our first. Isolated for a lot of the match, and was visibly frustrated. But still made an impact where he could.
 

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Great assist for our first. Isolated for a lot of the match, and was visibly frustrated. But still made an impact where he could.
Agreed. In the olden days with two up front him and Forss would be lethal
 

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Another game another goal. Whilst one is disappointed with the result we really have a top top striker on our hands.
 

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I was excited when we went for Ivan based solely on his record at Posh but I've been so impressed with his all round game, he has a lovely touch and is able to bring others into the game, he drops deep but is then right up there to pressure the keeper and defenders, what a player he is. Can see he's starting to get used to the side now and he's looking even better game by game which is mental for a fella with 9 goals in 9 games.
 

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I was excited when we went for Ivan based solely on his record at Posh but I've been so impressed with his all round game, he has a lovely touch and is able to bring others into the game, he drops deep but is then right up there to pressure the keeper and defenders, what a player he is. Can see he's starting to get used to the side now and he's looking even better game by game which is mental for a fella with 9 goals in 9 games.
He is definitely dropping deeper now on occasions then in his first few games for us, makes us more difficult to defend against and also allows us to set up attacks through his strength and ability to hold ball up in midfield.
 

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Just done some adding up;

In 2020, he has scored 20 goals in 22 games. Since the start of last season, he has scored 35 goals in 50 games. Now, come on - that's taking the piss isn't it? He could be our best signing ever you know.
 

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Bang average. My grandmother could be league top scorer with Bryan Mbeumo on the wing. :fishing:
 

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I was excited when we went for Ivan based solely on his record at Posh but I've been so impressed with his all round game, he has a lovely touch and is able to bring others into the game, he drops deep but is then right up there to pressure the keeper and defenders, what a player he is. Can see he's starting to get used to the side now and he's looking even better game by game which is mental for a fella with 9 goals in 9 games.
Also he’s put as the first man near the goal post when defending corners , and does a decent job of it
 

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9 goals ⚽⚽⚽⚽⚽⚽⚽⚽⚽
1 assist 🅰

in his last 7 matches 🥅🥅🥅🥅🥅🥅🥅

He’s officially on fire 🔥 🔥 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
 

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