Ivan Toney

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I wonder does Ivan know that the 'Zulus' are Birmingham's hooligan firm. Bit stupid imo.
....were mate....not are....twas all tongue in cheek....nothing to see here...unless you are vile....and live in the past.
 

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Has he got a song ? I thought of this whilst having a bonfire yesterday
Replace Sherry Baby with his name and then add , Hope you score one tonight , or similar

 

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I hope this isn't considered political but perhaps it was in some way in reference to the unprovoked attack in 1879 by the British Empire on Zululand.

Anglo-Zulu War - Wikipedia

This of course led to the Battle of Rorke's Drift and inspired the film Zulu.
Not political mate, just really weird tbh.
 

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Toney is a smart cookie and a very naughty boy, winding Villa fans up by recognising their biggest rivals notorious 80’s firm. Top, top sh*thousery and mischief making that will make him hated by the time they visit us
Though he has missed how much we hate Brum by never having a crowd when we played them.
 

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This is all about him mate, he’d be doing it whatever club he was at. If it was Birmingham he’d find something to goad them
We love to see it. Though he’s still got a way to go to match Maupay going to the stand behind the goal at Elland Road after that penalty.
 

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Toney is a smart cookie and a very naughty boy, winding Villa fans up by recognising their biggest rivals notorious 80’s firm. Top, top sh*thousery and mischief making that will make him hated by the time they visit us
Quite a few Villa fans "respected" the sh*thousery aspect of IT's action in their responses on Twitter, so fair play to them too!!! 😁
 

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Covid & a few injuries could see him in the frame. The silly Zula thing doesn't help. Great for him & the club if he gets a call up.
 

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I think Dave is correct TBH. 🤷‍♂️

It was an absolute w*** thing to do, no idea what Ian Hambridge’s family will be thinking seeing a Premier League player pulling such a stunt, I hope somebody at the club pulls him aside and tells him he let himself and the team down doing it.
 

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It was an absolute w*** thing to do, no idea what Ian Hambridge’s family will be thinking seeing a Premier League player pulling such a stunt, I hope somebody at the club pulls him aside and tells him he let himself and the team down doing it.

I very much doubt he fully understood the significance of what he was doing. Let’s not blow it out of proportion.
 

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I very much doubt he fully understood the significance of what he was doing. Let’s not blow it out of proportion.
He he knew it orginated from Birmingham fans because his agent must have told him and he has google on his phone.
 

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I very much doubt he fully understood the significance of what he was doing.
I think you're right.

However, I would imagine the person that advised him to do it DID know. A bit stupid doing this, without knowing the connotations of it, knowing that millions will watch on TV. A bit like jumping off a cliff 'because I was told to do it.' I think Ivan is lucky this hasn't been magnified in the national media. If someone like Kane or Rashford were highlighted promoting a hooligan firm, I reckon they would be absolutely pilloried.

I would be surprised if someone at the club (PG?) hasn't since 'educated' him.
 

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I think you're right.

However, I would imagine the person that advised him to do it DID know. A bit stupid doing this, without knowing the connotations of it, knowing that millions will watch on TV. A bit like jumping off a cliff 'because I was told to do it.' I think Ivan is lucky this hasn't been magnified in the national media. If someone like Kane or Rashford were highlighted promoting a hooligan firm, I reckon they would be absolutely pilloried.

I would be surprised if someone at the club (PG?) hasn't since 'educated' him.

Yes, agree and I doubt he’ll pull a similar stunt again
 

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It just seems a bit odd to be doing anything on the pitch that references hooliganism.

No need to make a big deal out of it, but I would hope the club will have a quiet word with him about it.
 

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So Ivan Toney makes a Z sign as a clique-y inside joke against Birmingham supporters; Patrick Bamford makes exactly the same sign to support an eco-friendly trainer company and save the planet. Curiouser and curiouser.
 

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Put some decent money on just now for Toney to score tomorrow. Can see him firing them in now after this goal at Villa.
 

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Lost my bet (made it up with the easiest bet one could make in Ronaldo scoring on his return) but that effort first half was wonderful. Always looked slightly high from where I was standing in the East Stand.

His all round game was good last year but excellent this year. His pressing and work rate from the front must make it so hard for teams.
 

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The team need to get around him. His play for the team was excellent today but he needs chances and him and Mbeumo need more players in more advanced positions.
 
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The team need to get around him. His play for the team was excellent today but he needs chances and him and Mbeumo need more players in more advanced positions.
Best let Thomas know…;)
 

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Might not even make 10 goals but we'll know.
His all round play today was incredible, but he and Mbeumo need support from midfield and from the wing backs. I do feel we're missing a lot in the attacking sense having Sergi on the right rather than the left...
 

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Playing 3 5 2 really limits us when the FB don't push on as Toney has little support and rarely looks like scoring
Totally agree with that. He was living on scraps and spent so much energy in areas of the pitch that was not really going to hurt Brighton. Very unlucky with the long shot though.
 

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Playing 3 5 2 really limits us when the FB don't push on as Toney has little support and rarely looks like scoring
This. We have three combative midfielders and 2 wingbacks so a lot of the time Toney is trying to find Bryan and then keep the ball enough for others to join in. Not a lot of sustained transition possession in the opponent’s half with our formation.
 

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He can't play the entire season like this, all-action defending and having to fetch the ball from midfield. He will be knackered and get injured.

He is the best finisher at the club, so we need more around him to accentuate his strengths. No good him being the provider, if others can't make more of their chances.
 

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I think we'll end up playing 3-4-3 in "winnable" games, as long as Wissa looks the part, to ease the burden on Toney
 
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