jlove
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I'd guess the single most attractive inducement is the 7-figure staying up bonus.
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rebus
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Call me old Brentford, but I'd like to see us make a voluntary add-on payment to Oldham FC if this finally goes through.
Our exact sell-on clause I have forgotten, but imagining we are due something like 25% above 6M quid? So in the ballpark of 3.5M due if he goes for 20M quid.
Those poor buggers already sold out their sell-on to us as they were already financially struggling.
I am sure the hard-nosed business types out there will be choking on their spreadsheets as they read this....
But even though we're clearly not legally bound to do so, I'd welcome a small cut of our portion going (5% would be175K) to OUFC.
Small potatoes from a Prem club perspective, but a windfall for a struggling Div 2 club.
Might even serve to underline to lower league clubs that we are a really good club to deal with in transfers, now that Brexit places a greater importance on looking for the very best young talent in the EFL.
Our exact sell-on clause I have forgotten, but imagining we are due something like 25% above 6M quid? So in the ballpark of 3.5M due if he goes for 20M quid.
Those poor buggers already sold out their sell-on to us as they were already financially struggling.
I am sure the hard-nosed business types out there will be choking on their spreadsheets as they read this....
But even though we're clearly not legally bound to do so, I'd welcome a small cut of our portion going (5% would be175K) to OUFC.
Small potatoes from a Prem club perspective, but a windfall for a struggling Div 2 club.
Might even serve to underline to lower league clubs that we are a really good club to deal with in transfers, now that Brexit places a greater importance on looking for the very best young talent in the EFL.
rebus
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No mate. We would be propping up a terrible regime. We bought out their sell on clause and that’s that.
Fair point, I had totally forgotten that.
But you are precisely one of the hard-nosed bastards I was anticipating
rebus
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A small donation to their Supporters Trust would be welcome by this author.
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That’s mad when you think about it but yes, 25% sell on, £20m (ridiculous when he’s got 6 months left on his contract) so £5m split by 10k season ticket holders….£500.
I know finances don’t necessarily work like that but makes you realise how relatively inconsequential season ticket sales are for premier league finances. If the club decided to charge £200 a season extra from next season for a season tickets it’s £2m, which would just about a only cover the wages of someone like Pontus….not sure it would be worth the fall out with supporters.
NZ Bee
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Whilst I agree with the sentiment, its just a shame that there would no guarantee that any money we passed onto them would be put towards helping the club, and not into the pockets of the owners.
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I used to happily play at Gunnersbury Park for nothing......If I was earning that sort of money I would happily play at Gunnersbury Park....
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And while a donation to their supporters’ trust would be laudable, I think it rather unlikely we’d land such a deliberate snub on their owner (cf our stewards acquiescing in ensuring their fans couldn’t bring protest flags or t shirts). If the trust now had control of their club we might do it and bask in a few more days of media love.
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This sale is nailed on as Burnley's new owner is finding it problematic raising funds through 3rd party sources, something to do with potential investors/lenders being scared off by their current predicament at the foot of the table and the very real prospect of dropping into the Championship.
Isleworth_Bee
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No. It’s a nice idea but it’s just never going to work. As rebus says a donation to their trust is a safer bet.
But I still don’t think we are that financially secure to be giving cash away like that.
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It’s said to be a 27.5% sell on.
So anything above £6m (can’t remember all the fees now and if £6m is correct. it’s somewhere around!) Brentford would receive 27.5% of it.
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So £3.85m if he went for £20m. Very nice.
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Assuming the club can make a donation without breaking any rules. How big is small? £50k? £100k?
rebus
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kaebess
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I can’t work Burnley out. The local owners sold to Americans in the summer and nothing.
They have a great tactical manager who has helped them punch above their weight for good number of years.
selling star players to close competitors
anyone know any more ???
They have a great tactical manager who has helped them punch above their weight for good number of years.
selling star players to close competitors
anyone know any more ???
jlove
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They've put in a bid for a Zenit St Petersburg striker.
They didn’t have a choice selling woods as Newcastle activated a release clause in his contract.
kaebess
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get that but what have they done to take the club forward ?
kaebess
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wow, realisation of what they have got themselves into
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Oh well, only money!!
TW3Bee
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There goes the sell on clause.
badgerbee
Mafeking Avenue........gets you there!!!!
Perhaps Tarky will donate a percentage of the signing on fee he gets from his next club to us, as a conciliatory gesture...........
hanworthbee
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A couple of exceptions but American owners rarely seem to end well
David Brentford
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It must cross his mind when going into big 50/50s that a big payday is just around the corner. I wonder if he'll be as committed for the rest of the season..
NZ Bee
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A couple of good MoM performances, or a couple of goal line clearances or perfect tackles > Carragher/Neville talking him up > Possible England call up > +50% on his weekly wage.
Indian Bee
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I’ll be interested to see where he goes next. I am pretty certain when Tarky signed for Burnley he didn’t expect to stay what 5/6 seasons with them. Obviously available on a free in the summer but not sure with his age a top 6 club will now take him. West Ham or Everton are my guesses.
Chorlton Bee
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Shown incredible loyalty to The clarets 
TW3Bee
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Bet he won't do it next week against us.Nice assist for Chelsea's 4th goal today.
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I think the opportunity for a move to a top club has passed some time ago. Man. Utd and Liverpool interested nearly 2 years ago, but that’s all over.
I like the rather arrogant quote from him 2 years ago, when the potential move from Burnley to a top 6 club was in the air -
"Finances do matter, but, at this particular stage, whatever path I take I will get financially rewarded so the financial side is not even in my thinking at the moment. It's more about my football.”
He’s not improving and is now on the cusp of a downward descent football wise.
Experienced he may be, but he’ll now be chasing the quality of the money wherever he can, rather than the quality of the football.
Anyway what he did at that fateful night, when refusing to play, will now come back to haunt him, as a warm welcome will be there for him on Saturday!
Every time he touches the ball, he’ll be reminded of it.
Trust he enjoys the reception he’ll get, particularly if he is left floundering, as Toney goes round him to score!
I like the rather arrogant quote from him 2 years ago, when the potential move from Burnley to a top 6 club was in the air -
"Finances do matter, but, at this particular stage, whatever path I take I will get financially rewarded so the financial side is not even in my thinking at the moment. It's more about my football.”
He’s not improving and is now on the cusp of a downward descent football wise.
Experienced he may be, but he’ll now be chasing the quality of the money wherever he can, rather than the quality of the football.
Anyway what he did at that fateful night, when refusing to play, will now come back to haunt him, as a warm welcome will be there for him on Saturday!
Every time he touches the ball, he’ll be reminded of it.
Trust he enjoys the reception he’ll get, particularly if he is left floundering, as Toney goes round him to score!
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He'll probably go to Leicester in the summer.
badgerbee
Mafeking Avenue........gets you there!!!!
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Shown incredible loyalty to The clarets
That’s because no other club came in for him with the financial deal that he and Burnley wanted 2 years ago, and even in the last transfer window.
Not loyalty, just money!
Burnley are a funny club, they run things on a modest budget but they’re really not much of a “selling club”. They’ve only ever sold three players over the £10m mark; Wood, Keane and Gray.
Their risk aversion and reluctance to sell and bring in fresh blood has probably been to their detriment this season. It’s a fine balance to strike, Sean Dyche has leveraged the continuity to build a team that is really well organised and made up of players that all understand their roles, but at the same time they’ve not been able to generate the funds to really improve their strength in depth. Compare and contrast with a club like Southampton that takes risks and is very active in the market and you can see the sorts of levels that are achievable for Burnley.
Tarkowski, for example, could have fetched them something like £40m at one stage, that gets you three Cornets or Weghorsts (each of which joining for £12m ish). Instead they have a player on their books now who will leave for nothing and has probably not been playing to their top level for a while because their head has been turned.
Now I say this fully aware that they could very easily stay up, even potentially at our expense. We are obviously in our first year at this level, whereas Burnley have staved off relegation for a number of years and credit to them for that. I just think they could have built on “just surviving” in previous years and perhaps had they been a bit braver they could be clear of the relegation dogfight. Brentford obviously have a very different philosophy where player turnover is much more prevalent.
Their risk aversion and reluctance to sell and bring in fresh blood has probably been to their detriment this season. It’s a fine balance to strike, Sean Dyche has leveraged the continuity to build a team that is really well organised and made up of players that all understand their roles, but at the same time they’ve not been able to generate the funds to really improve their strength in depth. Compare and contrast with a club like Southampton that takes risks and is very active in the market and you can see the sorts of levels that are achievable for Burnley.
Tarkowski, for example, could have fetched them something like £40m at one stage, that gets you three Cornets or Weghorsts (each of which joining for £12m ish). Instead they have a player on their books now who will leave for nothing and has probably not been playing to their top level for a while because their head has been turned.
Now I say this fully aware that they could very easily stay up, even potentially at our expense. We are obviously in our first year at this level, whereas Burnley have staved off relegation for a number of years and credit to them for that. I just think they could have built on “just surviving” in previous years and perhaps had they been a bit braver they could be clear of the relegation dogfight. Brentford obviously have a very different philosophy where player turnover is much more prevalent.
Voice from the Braemar
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Good player but a greedy bastad….give him proper grief 
Balders Bee
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Yes on his day a very decent Premier League defender but does have a big gaff in him and let's hope we see a couple on Saturday.Good player but a greedy bastad….give him proper grief
Absolutely deserves pelters as way he managed his move away from us was pretty poor to be honest.
mhead bee
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A mistake waiting to happen, very good player but like Stones will makes 5-10 rickets a season, not all end up in goals for both of them but that is down to poor finishing.
A million quid says he doesn't make one against us next week.
A million quid says he doesn't make one against us next week.
Million quid? You give me a million if he doesn't make a mistaken next week? OK I'm game.
mhead bee
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We are not a charity, we are a small club trying to survive with the big boys, Oldham had many years at the top table and didn't manage their club and finances and that isn't our problem to solve. The next thing is we will be offering Birmingham a part refund because the players they bought from us turned out to be a bit sh*tter than they hoped.
mhead bee
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Will you give me a million if he doesn't?
Easter 1959
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Especially with David Button behind him in goal; used to get palpertations everytime they started passing it between them in front of our goal.
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Judas......