James Tarkowski

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Is the agent is trying to flush out interest from other parties (Leicester), where Tarky can be sure of being top half of the table, with a crack at European football?
 

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I think we're still owed money by Burnley if he plays a competitive international so ideal situation would be he plays for England in October (500K?) and is so good it adds £10M (£2.7M?) to his price in January.
 

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Out of interest, is there a 'norm' for sell on clauses i.e. do they generally only apply to a single sale or can they extend beyond that? For example, if Jug Ears does go to West Ham and then he goes from West Ham to say Liverpool with in a coupe of years time (with Burnley getting a sell on) - is there ever a scenario where we'd get something from that move too?
 

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Depends what was in the original deal when JT was sold to Burnley. 🤷
 

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No one in their right mind will pay £50m for Tarkowski. For once West Ham's offer seems reasonable.
 

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West Ham increasing their bid yesterday by just £1M to £31M seemed odd. It was hastily rejected again, but I wonder if it was because WH are close to their limit of funds or they believe Burnley are willing to accept far less than the £50M they claim to be holding out for, and that £31M is close to the target sale price
 

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West Ham increasing their bid yesterday by just £1M to £31M seemed odd. It was hastily rejected again, but I wonder if it was because WH are close to their limit of funds or they believe Burnley are willing to accept far less than the £50M they claim to be holding out for, and that £31M is close to the target sale price
I imagine their owners think it works a bit like 'Homes Under the Hammer'. They'll probably start throwing in an extra £500 here and there as it reaches final bids.
 

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I cannot see any circumstances whatsoever why a bloke allegedly valued at £50m would leave Burnley to go to West Ham under current ownership, no matter how much they bid and whatever they offer to pay him. What one reason could there be?*

*His mum is moving to London is not a valid footballing reason.
 

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I cannot see any circumstances whatsoever why a bloke allegedly valued at £50m would leave Burnley to go to West Ham under current ownership, no matter how much they bid and whatever they offer to pay him. What one reason could there be?*

*His mum is moving to London is not a valid footballing reason.
At least his fans will be ok , the shirts the same colour
 
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I imagine their owners think it works a bit like 'Homes Under the Hammer'. They'll probably start throwing in an extra £500 here and there as it reaches final bids.
And maybe a van load of dirty mags..
 

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From a purely financial point of view for us we really need Tarky to be sold this transfer window. He will be 28 next month and his value will only decrease. His price was sky high in 2018 when he played for England a couple of times and I suspect Tarky didn't expect to still be at Burnley in 2020.

If he isn't sold in this window or season then he will probably leave in 2022 for £7m to some championship club etc ...
 

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I’ve read somewhere detail to the effect that the £50m is his release clause, but only applies to ‘top 6’ clubs. Hence Wet Spam chancing their arm at lower figures in the absence of such bids.
Er.....why would Burnley put in their contract: "Liverpool can buy him, but for £50m - whereas West Ham can buy him for £10m"? And then what's the stop WHU immediately selling to Liverpool for £30?
 

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Er.....why would Burnley put in their contract: "Liverpool can buy him, but for £50m - whereas West Ham can buy him for £10m"? And then what's the stop WHU immediately selling to Liverpool for £30?
Odd, isn’t it? Doesn’t matter, because Liverpool and Co. don’t want him!
Explains Burnley’s valuation though....
 
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Er.....why would Burnley put in their contract: "Liverpool can buy him, but for £50m - whereas West Ham can buy him for £10m"? And then what's the stop WHU immediately selling to Liverpool for £30?
Sky have reported something similar about the release clause:


From Sky Sports article:

The England international has a £50m release clause in his contract relevant to only Manchester City, Manchester United and Liverpool, while Tottenham, Chelsea and Manchester United are also admirers but need to move players out before looking to sign a new centre-half.
 

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Er.....why would Burnley put in their contract: "Liverpool can buy him, but for £50m - whereas West Ham can buy him for £10m"? And then what's the stop WHU immediately selling to Liverpool for £30?
The clause is only relevant if his value is around or above £50m. Burnley can sell/not sell to whomever they want at £30m (or £10m).

In your example - why would Liverpool pay West Ham £30m, when they could buy him for £10m direct?
 

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The clause is only relevant if his value is around or above £50m. Burnley can sell/not sell to whomever they want at £30m (or £10m).

In your example - why would Liverpool pay West Ham £30m, when they could buy him for £10m direct?
Because they would have to pay £50m to release him direct from Burnley.
 

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Lets hope he puts in a good show this weekend and tempts leicester
Looks unlikely as he has a badly bruised toe


Tarkowski missed the Clarets' midweek Carabao Cup tie with Sheffield United due to a toe injury - and is doubtful for Sunday's trip to the King Power Stadium.
“He has a badly bruised toe," said Dyche. "The problem with toes is they can be painful and we will wait and see if that settles for Sunday."
 

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Because they would have to pay £50m to release him direct from Burnley.
If Burnley are accepting £10m bids, why wouldn't they accept one from Liverpool? The clause doesn't say they have to refuse bids below £50m from the listed clubs.
 

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Looks unlikely as he has a badly bruised toe


Tarkowski missed the Clarets' midweek Carabao Cup tie with Sheffield United due to a toe injury - and is doubtful for Sunday's trip to the King Power Stadium.
“He has a badly bruised toe," said Dyche. "The problem with toes is they can be painful and we will wait and see if that settles for Sunday."
Sean Dyche in "toes can be painful" revelation!!!! 😁
 

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If it is only West Ham interested he is better off staying where he is.

Leicester would be a great move though, but are they going to pay the asking price?
 

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I guess his toe 'is in the wrong place'. Have no interest in his career but if someone wishes to pay 50M for the wingnut Judas and pass on a few quid to us then please do.
(y) Exactly.
 

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West Ham have submitted their final £35m bid for James Tarkowski. With just 2 years left on his contract, the offer could be too good for the Burnley board to reject in the current climate. Moyes is hoping he has his man as early as next week.

[Source: C&H] https://t.co/qCntTY5HM7
 

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West Ham have submitted their final £35m bid for James Tarkowski. With just 2 years left on his contract, the offer could be too good for the Burnley board to reject in the current climate. Moyes is hoping he has his man as early as next week.

[Source: C&H] https://t.co/qCntTY5HM7
reckon he will go at that price. Just a question of whether Leicester come in and match that price
 

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West Ham have submitted their final £35m bid for James Tarkowski. With just 2 years left on his contract, the offer could be too good for the Burnley board to reject in the current climate. Moyes is hoping he has his man as early as next week.

[Source: C&H] https://t.co/qCntTY5HM7
So that is from https://www.claretandhugh.info/ where the entire article reads:

Burnley fans believe Tarkowski is Hammers-bound

Burnley supporters fear star man James Tarkowski could depart Turf Moor before the end of the transfer window.

The defender is not involved in the game against Leicester City and Clarets boss and missed out with a toe problem which meant he didn’t feature in the Carabao Cup against Sheffield United in midweek.

Claret fans have taken to social media claiming they believe their centre back is West Ham-bound according to Lancs Live.

West Ham have submitted their final offer of £35m to Burnley with a £30m transfer fee and £5m of add-ons

With just 24 months on his Turf Moor contract and about to turn 28 next month that offer could be too good an offer for the Burnley board to reject in the current climate.

With no other active bidders, David Moyes is hoping he has his man as early as next week as he hinted on Friday.
 

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Because they would have to pay £50m to release him direct from Burnley.
Huh? The clause clearly works the other way around. Burnley don’t have to sell to anyone for under £50m, but also can sell to anyone.

If a club bids over £50m, then they have to accept if it’s one of the big clubs, but could still ask for more from the likes of West Ham.
 

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really hope some form of a bid goes through just so we can get some more cash out of this ****.
Well obviously! I normally have no interest in a Burnley centre back unless

a) it relates to Bees
b) I have one in my fantasy league team
 

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James Tarkowski appears to be forcing a move out of Burnley, but it’s not necessarily meaning he is doing it to join West Ham.

Leicester are another club interested in him and he would still prefer not to move down south.

[Source: @ExWHUemployee] https://t.co/Zt9bm5yo3Q
 

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James Tarkowski appears to be forcing a move out of Burnley, but it’s not necessarily meaning he is doing it to join West Ham.

Leicester are another club interested in him and he would still prefer not to move down south.

[Source: @ExWHUemployee] https://t.co/Zt9bm5yo3Q
Hmmmm, sounds familiar, if true.
 

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Massive news that Leicester are finally in for him, West Ham might as well move on now. £30m I think this is about £6.5m for us, if we assume that he'll go for £35m then we're nearer £8m.
 

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Massive news that Leicester are finally in for him, West Ham might as well move on now. £30m I think this is about £6.5m for us, if we assume that he'll go for £35m then we're nearer £8m.
Given everything going on in football at the moment that is a massive unplanned for windfall. Fingers crossed.
 

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