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Is he seen an alternative or in addition to a possible swoop for Brennan Johnson?
 

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Wonder if we will be back in for Vanderson or Siquet at right back. I think a RB signing for the long term is on the cards at some stage but maybe it might not be until the summer.

Hopefully moves away on the cards for Fosu, Valencia, Racic and Jeanvier if they aren’t likely to be involved here. That will then allow us to bring in others to the PL squad if they become available on the market.
 

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A RB and another forward player would be our main target right now but I think our winter transfer window will in part be largely determined how well we are doing and if we have pick up any injuries where we may be short. Some of our long term targets may not be available until next summer.
 

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No doubt will be one of dozens of options we will take a look at.
 

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Diogo Dalot? Seems surplus at Man U, young. Any good? Wages too high? Saw an article suggesting £8m transfer fee.
 

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No doubt will be one of dozens of options we will take a look at.
... and I think those options that are in our pipeline may be narrowed by necessity as the window approaches, with possible injuries and a more accurate projection of Dasilva's availability and a much better assessment of our current squad's strengths and weaknesses after half a season in The Premier League.
 
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January is probably going to be more about finding new homes for some of the squad players who need it, then strengthening the squad IMO.

Of course who knows what happens over the next couple of months but if we’re able to carry on close to how we have so far I doubt we’d feel the need to spend much.
 

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His agent is obviously starting early.
 

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Jens Cajuste not featuring for FCM? Is he injured?
 

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January is probably going to be more about finding new homes for some of the squad players who need it, then strengthening the squad IMO.

Of course who knows what happens over the next couple of months but if we’re able to carry on close to how we have so far I doubt we’d feel the need to spend much.
I wouldn't be surprised if we brought one or two in. I guess it depends on whether Josh is likely to be fit. We were obviously very keen on a couple of players and I'm sure Phil said there was at least one that was just to late to get over the line.. Could well see those resurrected in Jan? Wasn't one of the right backs we were linked with supposedly more available in December?
 

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Of course who knows what happens over the next couple of months but if we’re able to carry on close to how we have so far I doubt we’d feel the need to spend much.
My only worry is burnout.
Going all guns blazing right now but can we genuinely carry that on playing the same 14-15 players? We're kinda predictable in subs. I want to give the B team a chance but I feel some experience may well be needed, whether its shown or not in January.
 

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My only worry is burnout.
I am not so sure, a game a week, when they were playing two a week last term in what I think is a more physical and mentally draining league.
A few outs and couple of ins and I am sure we will be fine.
It's the summer that worries me, when the big guns start chucking their money about and turning players heads,which obviously could happen in January?
 

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I am not so sure, a game a week, when they were playing two a week last term in what I think is a more physical and mentally draining league.
A few outs and couple of ins and I am sure we will be fine.
It's the summer that worries me, when the big guns start chucking their money about and turning players heads,which obviously could happen in January?
The big test will be in the summer. I think unless we’ve tanked over the next two months the players will all be buzzing in January to get a full season in the PL with us and finish well. That’ll also maximise their opportunities elsewhere.

Toney, if he keeps on as he has and ends on 12-15 goals plus a bunch of assists will get big offers. Probably ones he and we can’t refuse. So the challenge will be to get the next one in. Or for Forss or someone else to step up. I’d not discount the possibility of another playing evolution and either reverting to 433 or the 343 we saw at the end v Liverpool and playing a front three of Wissa Forss Mbeumo. Then getting more astonished headlines for yet again making the big bucks on a striker and somehow improving the team the next season.
 

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My only worry is burnout.
Going all guns blazing right now but can we genuinely carry that on playing the same 14-15 players? We're kinda predictable in subs. I want to give the B team a chance but I feel some experience may well be needed, whether its shown or not in January.
Like replacing Norgaard with Wissa, you mean?
 

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The big test will be in the summer. I think unless we’ve tanked over the next two months the players will all be buzzing in January to get a full season in the PL with us and finish well. That’ll also maximise their opportunities elsewhere.

Toney, if he keeps on as he has and ends on 12-15 goals plus a bunch of assists will get big offers. Probably ones he and we can’t refuse. So the challenge will be to get the next one in. Or for Forss or someone else to step up. I’d not discount the possibility of another playing evolution and either reverting to 433 or the 343 we saw at the end v Liverpool and playing a front three of Wissa Forss Mbeumo. Then getting more astonished headlines for yet again making the big bucks on a striker and somehow improving the team the next season.
Forss, Wissa Mbeumo........Don't FWM!
 

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SOUTHAMPTON have signed 32-year-old free agent Olly Lancashire to play in the U23s team as first-ever support player.

This is a guy with with 300+ EFL appearances who had offers to continue playing first team football in the pro game but has decided to go to Southampton to play and train exclusively with their U23s to help ready them for men’s football.

Sounds interesting and tbh makes more sense, I would say, than carrying extra 17-21 year olds that have no chance of making it, just to make up squad numbers.

Given our B team is not regulated and there are not actual “rules” on the ages of squad members I wonder if it’s something we might consider?

Must be a lot of players out there that are fit enough to continue playing, and they don’t yet have UEFA coaching licences, but they’re too old to get compelling first team offers elsewhere. I would say that young players could very much benefit from being around these types on day-to-day basis.
 

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SOUTHAMPTON have signed 32-year-old free agent Olly Lancashire to play in the U23s team as first-ever support player.

This is a guy with with 300+ EFL appearances who had offers to continue playing first team football in the pro game but has decided to go to Southampton to play and train exclusively with their U23s to help ready them for men’s football.

Sounds interesting and tbh makes more sense, I would say, than carrying extra 17-21 year olds that have no chance of making it, just to make up squad numbers.

Given our B team is not regulated and there are not actual “rules” on the ages of squad members I wonder if it’s something we might consider?

Must be a lot of players out there that are fit enough to continue playing, and they don’t yet have UEFA coaching licences, but they’re too old to get compelling first team offers elsewhere. I would say that young players could very much benefit from being around these types on day-to-day basis.
Maybe that's what Valencia is doing?
 

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I think the big question is over our right back/right wing back options. Canos has taken to the role very well, and Roeslev is making decent cameos, so I imagine the requirement is a fair bit lower than a month ago. Without a proper right back in the squad we're a bit restricted if we ever want to switch to 4-3-3, but I suspect Ajer could do a decent job there.

That said, we've got a difficult December which could see us reasses, particularly if we get hit by injuries at any point.
 

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For me definitely both wing backs need good cover if finaically viable. Burnout as mentioned above is the worry. Being able to sub them both during games and not weakening us is crucial.
 

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David Ornstein in today's Athletic

Brentford chasing Lewis-Potter

Brentford are monitoring Hull City forward Keane Lewis-Potter ahead of the January transfer window after seeing their initial approach rebuffed in the summer.

The Premier League club held discussions with Hull’s vice-chairman Ehab Allam in the closing days of the transfer window, proposing a deal that could potentially rise to £8 million. There was no appetite to sell the young forward at that price, with Hull valuing Lewis-Potter at £12 million on the back of a successful season in League One.

But Brentford have retained an interest in Lewis-Potter, whom they have scouted extensively in the last 12 months. The 20-year-old, who has emerged via the club’s academy and can operate on either flank, scored 15 goals in all competitions as Grant McCann’s side won the League One title and has already scored three times this season. Lewis-Potter signed an extended contract with his hometown club, running until at least 2023, after resolving a protracted stand-off in January. McCann called it “a ridiculous situation” as Lewis-Potter was used off the bench in 11 consecutive games until he was eventually willing to commit his future.
 

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SOUTHAMPTON have signed 32-year-old free agent Olly Lancashire to play in the U23s team as first-ever support player.

This is a guy with with 300+ EFL appearances who had offers to continue playing first team football in the pro game but has decided to go to Southampton to play and train exclusively with their U23s to help ready them for men’s football.

Sounds interesting and tbh makes more sense, I would say, than carrying extra 17-21 year olds that have no chance of making it, just to make up squad numbers.

Given our B team is not regulated and there are not actual “rules” on the ages of squad members I wonder if it’s something we might consider?

Must be a lot of players out there that are fit enough to continue playing, and they don’t yet have UEFA coaching licences, but they’re too old to get compelling first team offers elsewhere. I would say that young players could very much benefit from being around these types on day-to-day basis.
He must have a mate at soton then to get this cushy number
 

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David Ornstein in today's Athletic

Brentford chasing Lewis-Potter

Brentford are monitoring Hull City forward Keane Lewis-Potter ahead of the January transfer window after seeing their initial approach rebuffed in the summer.

The Premier League club held discussions with Hull’s vice-chairman Ehab Allam in the closing days of the transfer window, proposing a deal that could potentially rise to £8 million. There was no appetite to sell the young forward at that price, with Hull valuing Lewis-Potter at £12 million on the back of a successful season in League One.

But Brentford have retained an interest in Lewis-Potter, whom they have scouted extensively in the last 12 months. The 20-year-old, who has emerged via the club’s academy and can operate on either flank, scored 15 goals in all competitions as Grant McCann’s side won the League One title and has already scored three times this season. Lewis-Potter signed an extended contract with his hometown club, running until at least 2023, after resolving a protracted stand-off in January. McCann called it “a ridiculous situation” as Lewis-Potter was used off the bench in 11 consecutive games until he was eventually willing to commit his future.
...........is he related to our Harry?????...............
 

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BARKLEY ON BURNLEY RADAR? GILMOUR SET FOR RECALL?

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are hoping to sign Chelsea midfielder Ross Barkley in January, according to The Sun.

The 27-year-old has only featured in three Premier League matchday squads for the Blues this season and played only seven league minutes since returning from his loan spell at Aston Villa last season

I think he would be a good loan signing for us.
 

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Can understand the no loans policy. exceptions such as centre backs when needed.

That said I can see the club taking a short term view on this for the second half of the season. It looks like we will be in a good position to be in the running of staying up.

if the squad has injuries that are weeks or months away from being fit. We are certainly in a much more attractive position than people ( without the knowledge ) would have presumed, so should be easier to convince on or two bigger known premier names, to ensure we all get a second season and more time to build
 

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My worry is cover for Toney. We don't have anyone else like him on the clubs books. Forss and Wissa are very different style of players.
But then I look a lot of clubs have the same issue - West Ham have no cover for Antonio, Everton with Calvert-Lewin etc.
If Baptiste is out for long time we may go in for Cajuste again.
Otherwise I think we have a good squad
 
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My worry is cover for Toney. We don't have anyone else like him on the clubs books. Forss and Wissa are very different style of players.
But then I look a lot of clubs have the same issue - West Ham have no cover for Antonio, Everton with Calvert-Lewin etc.
If Baptiste is out for long time we may go in for Cajuste again.
Otherwise I think we have a good squad
I think the thing is as you say, few clubs can carry a second back up striker of proven ability. Even many of the biggest clubs don’t really- who is Lukaku’s deputy or Kane’s?

If we were without Toney for any substantial period I think we’d have a Plan B formation with perhaps Wissa/Canos, Forss/Ghoddos, Mbeumo and 433 with Ajer playing RB. Or a new RB (that Brazilian guy?). Next season we’ll see almost certainly.

I’d hope JDS might be returning in January but maybe he’s further off than that.
 

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In an ideal world I’d be very happy with some more midfield cover, whether that be Cajuste or someone we’ve never heard of, along with a right back that can play in a back 4 so we have that option, interesting to see whether the 2 we were linked with on deadline day resurface. Realistically I doubt we’ll bring in any more than 1, if any. Fingers crossed we can Josh back around that time as well as he’ll be like a new signing.
 
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I think it massively depends on Josh situation as to whether we will look to add more options - Baptiste should be fit by then so if we think Josh will play this season we probably have enough cover. I would still like a RB as competition for Sergi as priority and potentially a LB as well.
 

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I imagine we will want cover or competition for Sergi and cover for Rico as a priority.
In a perfect World I’d say we’d have a player in Ivan mould getting game time and being prepared if he goes should we not make Europe this season.
 

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Aalborg in the Danish Superliga have only conceded 10 goals in their opening 12 games, and they find themselves third in the table behind FCK and FCM. The three games they have lost have been by the odd goal.

A regular in their backline is 20 year old Mathias Ross Jensen. He's capped all the way through by Denmark's youth sides up to U21 level and is close to racking up 100 senior apps in their top flight.

Not sure about work permit stuff but given that, in his position, we have Jansson and Zanka 30 years old+ on short term deals, plus Racic and Jeanvier seemingly surplus to requirements, he could be a prospect we look at.

Of course, the above is unlikely and we probably have loads of other options lined up for that position. But I just love the idea we could have two players called Mathias Jensen in our squad.
 
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