Strong Rumour Jens Cajuste (FCM Midfielder)

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This guy does look very good and I’m sure it’sa great investment…but when Onyeka goes through we’ll have 7 first team central midfielders… 8 seems excessive.
 

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I think if anything he's more likely to increase his shares in FCM.

Because of the money involved in the Premier League MB can now get Brentford to where he wants them.

FCM would require significantly more money to achieve similar status (Europe Wide) in the Danish Superliga.

I am sure that you are right and that AHP will increase his shareholding in FCM if both he and MB are happy with the arrangement, that makes so much sense.

But equally, at some stage Brentford are likely to need additional investment if they are to become an established EPL player. Yes, we have the Premier League television money and additional income that promotion brings , but every other team in the top flight has that too and more besides. We were the best run club in the Championship and that might also be the case in the Premier League, but the difference between the haves and have nots is even greater and to the Big Six who all have income of £500m- £800m +, it is huge.

As much as we might hate to admit it, money always ultimately wins in sport.

It feels wrong to even mention this about such a private man, but MB is not wealthy in PL owner terms, success is survival and our data and innovative approach might well enable us to do better and midtable would be a truly fantastic achievement. However, I doubt MB would be happy with that as the ultimate aim and to make what would be a quantum leap forward, even from that point is probably going to need outside investment .

AHP is already "involved" and one of the biggest landowners in the UK and if the partnership at FCM goes well, it makes equal sense for something similar to happen with Brentford, or at least the discussion to take place.
 

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This guy does look very good and I’m sure it’sa great investment…but when Onyeka goes through we’ll have 7 first team central midfielders… 8 seems excessive.

I know what you mean, but we certainly need another attacking midfielder too regardless. Having said that, it doesn't look like Josh will see much of the season and Baptiste is a bit of an unknown at the moment so we'd have Norgaard, Jensen, Onyeka as pretty nailed on starters with Janelt, Ghoddos, Baptiste, Bidstrup as backup (plus Zamburek). I for one would welcome a bit more quality in that back up group...
 

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I am sure that you are right and that AHP will increase his shareholding in FCM if both he and MB are happy with the arrangement, that makes so much sense.

But equally, at some stage Brentford are likely to need additional investment if they are to become an established EPL player. Yes, we have the Premier League television money and additional income that promotion brings , but every other team in the top flight has that too and more besides. We were the best run club in the Championship and that might also be the case in the Premier League, but the difference between the haves and have nots is even greater and to the Big Six who all have income of £500m- £800m +, it is huge.

As much as we might hate to admit it, money always ultimately wins in sport.

It feels wrong to even mention this about such a private man, but MB is not wealthy in PL owner terms, success is survival and our data and innovative approach might well enable us to do better and midtable would be a truly fantastic achievement. However, I doubt MB would be happy with that as the ultimate aim and to make what would be a quantum leap forward, even from that point is probably going to need outside investment .

AHP is already "involved" and one of the biggest landowners in the UK and if the partnership at FCM goes well, it makes equal sense for something similar to happen with Brentford, or at least the discussion to take place.
I've no idea about MB's wealth and tbh, I don't want to know. Seems wrong somehow. Having said that, that's a thought provoking post. Ultimately, where does MB want to take the Club and how does he do it? On his own or with others. Good post imo.
 

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This guy does look very good and I’m sure it’sa great investment…but when Onyeka goes through we’ll have 7 first team central midfielders… 8 seems excessive.
I’m pretty sure Onyeka can play in several positions, we know Nøgaard can play midfield and CB.
 

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I know what you mean, but we certainly need another attacking midfielder too regardless. Having said that, it doesn't look like Josh will see much of the season and Baptiste is a bit of an unknown at the moment so we'd have Norgaard, Jensen, Onyeka as pretty nailed on starters with Janelt, Ghoddos, Baptiste, Bidstrup as backup (plus Zamburek). I for one would welcome a bit more quality in that back up group...

I even missed Bidstrup… so that’s one more ( and Zambo). 9 central mids? Maybe someone is on their way out, even though we’re unlikely to see much of jds this season
 

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I even missed Bidstrup… so that’s one more ( and Zambo). 9 central mids? Maybe someone is on their way out, even though we’re unlikely to see much of jds this season
I'd put money on Zamburek not being here at the start of the season - either on loan or sold.
 

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I know what you mean, but we certainly need another attacking midfielder too regardless. Having said that, it doesn't look like Josh will see much of the season and Baptiste is a bit of an unknown at the moment so we'd have Norgaard, Jensen, Onyeka as pretty nailed on starters with Janelt, Ghoddos, Baptiste, Bidstrup as backup (plus Zamburek). I for one would welcome a bit more quality in that back up group...
When you put it like that, I can see the logic to adding another 1st team quality midfielder to the squad. Obviously a fit JDS changes that though.

I can't see us starting games with an "attacking" player in that midfield 3 so I'd be surprised if that's what we're looking for though. More likely an attacking wide player as we've still not replaced Benrahma.
 

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The Premier League is all about speed: speed of movement, speed of pressing and speed of moving the ball when you get possession, hence the focus on athletic players. Players returning from injury will take some time to get to the required level, players from other leagues will take time to adjust, unless it's their primary attribute, and we'll need to rotate players, particularly in midfield to keep performance levels up for 95 minutes.
 

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The Premier League is all about speed: speed of movement, speed of pressing and speed of moving the ball when you get possession, hence the focus on athletic players. Players returning from injury will take some time to get to the required level, players from other leagues will take time to adjust, unless it's their primary attribute, and we'll need to rotate players, particularly in midfield to keep performance levels up for 95 minutes.
With a stronger squad Frank should also feel more confident being able to make subs earlier than previously
 

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The Premier League is all about speed: speed of movement, speed of pressing and speed of moving the ball when you get possession, hence the focus on athletic players. Players returning from injury will take some time to get to the required level, players from other leagues will take time to adjust, unless it's their primary attribute, and we'll need to rotate players, particularly in midfield to keep performance levels up for 95 minutes.
Also, how many midfielders etc we’ll need and be able to keep motivated will depend to an extent on how many subs are allowed. Iirc PL has 3 unlike other major leagues but I think there’s another vote on it for this season. If it ends up with 5 there’ll be value in having lots of players available for in game rotation (think more Denmark bringing Christian and Mathias on than Barnsley!).
 

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I am sure that you are right and that AHP will increase his shareholding in FCM if both he and MB are happy with the arrangement, that makes so much sense.

But equally, at some stage Brentford are likely to need additional investment if they are to become an established EPL player. Yes, we have the Premier League television money and additional income that promotion brings , but every other team in the top flight has that too and more besides. We were the best run club in the Championship and that might also be the case in the Premier League, but the difference between the haves and have nots is even greater and to the Big Six who all have income of £500m- £800m +, it is huge.

As much as we might hate to admit it, money always ultimately wins in sport.

It feels wrong to even mention this about such a private man, but MB is not wealthy in PL owner terms, success is survival and our data and innovative approach might well enable us to do better and midtable would be a truly fantastic achievement. However, I doubt MB would be happy with that as the ultimate aim and to make what would be a quantum leap forward, even from that point is probably going to need outside investment .

AHP is already "involved" and one of the biggest landowners in the UK and if the partnership at FCM goes well, it makes equal sense for something similar to happen with Brentford, or at least the discussion to take place.
A very interesting, and informative post. Thanks, it made for a good read, and was thought provoking.
 

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The Premier League is all about speed: speed of movement, speed of pressing and speed of moving the ball when you get possession, hence the focus on athletic players. Players returning from injury will take some time to get to the required level, players from other leagues will take time to adjust, unless it's their primary attribute, and we'll need to rotate players, particularly in midfield to keep performance levels up for 95 minutes.
yep, also players who can cover several positions.
 

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Swedish site saying that Wolves, Leeds, Newcastle and Palace all chasing Cajuste..
 

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I am sure that you are right and that AHP will increase his shareholding in FCM if both he and MB are happy with the arrangement, that makes so much sense.

But equally, at some stage Brentford are likely to need additional investment if they are to become an established EPL player. Yes, we have the Premier League television money and additional income that promotion brings , but every other team in the top flight has that too and more besides. We were the best run club in the Championship and that might also be the case in the Premier League, but the difference between the haves and have nots is even greater and to the Big Six who all have income of £500m- £800m +, it is huge.

As much as we might hate to admit it, money always ultimately wins in sport.

It feels wrong to even mention this about such a private man, but MB is not wealthy in PL owner terms, success is survival and our data and innovative approach might well enable us to do better and midtable would be a truly fantastic achievement. However, I doubt MB would be happy with that as the ultimate aim and to make what would be a quantum leap forward, even from that point is probably going to need outside investment .

AHP is already "involved" and one of the biggest landowners in the UK and if the partnership at FCM goes well, it makes equal sense for something similar to happen with Brentford, or at least the discussion to take place.
A partnership like this could be massively important for an even more successful long term future for our club.
 
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Come on guys this is a massive signing he is quality and will get better in a better in a league where he has to use his technical abilty and he will have more time on the ball which suits him.

He has been playing in scotland where there the football is rubbish and anyones game woulf be affetced playing week in week in scotland at moment.

It was only recent leicester and arsenal was interested in this guy if they wouldnt have got fofana....

He will be good i have no doubt!!
 

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Come on guys this is a massive signing he is quality and will get better in a better in a league where he has to use his technical abilty and he will have more time on the ball which suits him.

He has been playing in scotland where there the football is rubbish and anyones game woulf be affetced playing week in week in scotland at moment.

It was only recent leicester and arsenal was interested in this guy if they wouldnt have got fofana....

He will be good i have no doubt!!
Eh? He's been playing for FC Midtjylland - they're Danish, not Scottish!
 
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I suppose if you look at the regular starters in midfield we have Jensen, Dasilva (inj), Norgaard, Janelt, Ghoddos (not really a midfielder). These were players who played regularly last season, we don't know how Bidstrup and Baptiste will turn out so it is probably wise to make sure we have 6 players ready to compete for 3 positions.
 

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I am sure that you are right and that AHP will increase his shareholding in FCM if both he and MB are happy with the arrangement, that makes so much sense.

But equally, at some stage Brentford are likely to need additional investment if they are to become an established EPL player. Yes, we have the Premier League television money and additional income that promotion brings , but every other team in the top flight has that too and more besides. We were the best run club in the Championship and that might also be the case in the Premier League, but the difference between the haves and have nots is even greater and to the Big Six who all have income of £500m- £800m +, it is huge.

As much as we might hate to admit it, money always ultimately wins in sport.

It feels wrong to even mention this about such a private man, but MB is not wealthy in PL owner terms, success is survival and our data and innovative approach might well enable us to do better and midtable would be a truly fantastic achievement. However, I doubt MB would be happy with that as the ultimate aim and to make what would be a quantum leap forward, even from that point is probably going to need outside investment .

AHP is already "involved" and one of the biggest landowners in the UK and if the partnership at FCM goes well, it makes equal sense for something similar to happen with Brentford, or at least the discussion to take place.
I'm not sure I agree. Our USP is doing things differently. We can easily be an established PL top half side IMO doing things the way we already are and innovating, something we seem excellent at. Unless you are talking about breaking the top 6/7, then more investment may be needed.
 

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I'm not sure I agree. Our USP is doing things differently. We can easily be an established PL top half side IMO doing things the way we already are and innovating, something we seem excellent at. Unless you are talking about breaking the top 6/7, then more investment may be needed.
I suspect MB et al are absolutely set on breaking into the top 8 but are realistic in knowing that’s a multiyear project just as promotion to the PL was when we went up from L1. If we can make a similar squad improvement between 2021 and 2026 as we did between 2014 and 2019 (the team of the last two seasons would have destroyed the 14-15 one in 7 out of 10 games) it is not crazy talk.
 

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Swedish site saying that Wolves, Leeds, Newcastle and Palace all chasing Cajuste..

sounds like a Benny Hill sketch!
 

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I would assume our interest means we are comfortable paying FCM's valuation, seeing as we are the ones who came up with it 😁. So if others don't want to pay it then it just comes down to whether the player wants to come here?
 

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I would assume our interest means we are comfortable paying FCM's valuation, seeing as we are the ones who came up with it 😁. So if others don't want to pay it then it just comes down to whether the player wants to come here?

Not sure MB would have tweeted about it was it more than a 3-4 horse race.
 

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Don't Newcastle have a 10 million pound budget for the summer? 😂 The sun said that today, might be why they cant afford him
 

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Steve Bruce did brilliantly to achieve 13th place given little support from Mike Ashley.
 

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I would assume our interest means we are comfortable paying FCM's valuation, seeing as we are the ones who came up with it 😁. So if others don't want to pay it then it just comes down to whether the player wants to come here?
Probably but it doesn't stop another club offering more.
 
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Don't Newcastle have a 10 million pound budget for the summer? 😂 The sun said that today, might be why they cant afford him
£10m. Out of £150m ish? TV money alone!
 
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