Kicking the ball out if a player is injured

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Apparently, Lee Johnson has written to all other 23 championship clubs to say his team won't kick the ball out if a player is injured and that the decision to stop play should be left to the referee.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/49251887

I actually agree, as there are too many times a player goes down like a sack of spuds and the crowd bay for the team to boot it out, only after the restart for the same player to be running about like Usain Bolt.

However, I'm not too sure how well it will go down with opposing teams!
 

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Apparently, Lee Johnson has written to all other 23 championship clubs to say his team won't kick the ball out if a player is injured and that the decision to stop play should be left to the referee.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/49251887

I actually agree, as there are too many times a player goes down like a sack of spuds and the crowd bay for the team to boot it out, only after the restart for the same player to be running about like Usain Bolt.

However, I'm not too sure how well it will go down with opposing teams!

Don't do it, unless instructed by the ref or the manager/coach. :shrug:

Don't see an issue. The players on the pitch know when a player is seriously injured. They know when to stop play.
 

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So many times a player goes down apparently injured, and the opposition kick the ball out, only for said player to jump to his feet.

Agree with Johnson that the decision to stop play should be up to the referee.
 

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Agreed, consistency is needed here. Setting it as a 'play on' precedent makes sense, they're not breaking any rules by playing on but fans and coaches get annoyed at it.
 

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Agree. If somebody does sustain a serious injury (e.g. a clash of heads and starts convulsing), I think you'll find common sense would take over and they would kick the ball out, in those circumstances. For everything else, leave it to the ref.
 

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..............and trainers allowed on for treatment whilst game is flowing.............players would soon stop feigning injury.................
 

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So many times a player goes down apparently injured, and the opposition kick the ball out, only for said player to jump to his feet.

Agree with Johnson that the decision to stop play should be up to the referee.

Yes, it is up to the ref. No issues with fairness if you go on to score, no letting the other team score unopposed and no point in a player going down unless actually injured. It’ll improve the game. If the ref gets it wrong that’s their issue and can be dealt with.
 

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..............and trainers allowed on for treatment whilst game is flowing.............players would soon stop feigning injury.................

They do that in Rugby.
 

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Absolutely fine if all clubs adhere to it, however you can bet your life if a player goes down with a serious injury and the ref doesn’t realise all hell will break lose ( would be ironic if it was a Bristol player)
 

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100% with Johnson on this issue which has really got out of hand these days by the play acting of players and coaches. The rules are the ref decides if play needs to be stopped, leave it at that. Think Pontus would agree too....
 

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..............and trainers allowed on for treatment whilst game is flowing.............players would soon stop feigning injury.................

What if they aren’t feigning and are genuinely injured?
 
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You're a hard man!

If there's a clash of heads, I reckon the ref would stop it anyway, and maybe the players themselves. Same with a 'broken limb' tackle when you hear the snap. Although I'm being a bit tongue in cheek with down for 5 mins, it will stop those that writhe around if play is still going on a minute later and make them get on with it when they realise they're letting the side down.

It works well in rugby and as GP200 says, allow the trainer on while the game progresses. That player knows that while he's down, his team are at a disadvantage, so the quicker he gets up or is replaced, the better!
 

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If there's a clash of heads, I reckon the ref would stop it anyway, and maybe the players themselves. Same with a 'broken limb' tackle when you hear the snap. Although I'm being a bit tongue in cheek with down for 5 mins, it will stop those that writhe around if play is still going on a minute later and make them get on with it when they realise they're letting the side down.

It works well in rugby and as GP200 says, allow the trainer on while the game progresses. That player knows that while he's down, his team are at a disadvantage, so the quicker he gets up or is replaced, the better!

I do agree with you.
 

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Don't do it, unless instructed by the ref or the manager/coach. :shrug:

Don't see an issue. The players on the pitch know when a player is seriously injured. They know when to stop play.

Nebulous response. Either you agree with Johnson or you don't?
 

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On a similar topic, is there a good reason why refs can’t be miked up like in rugby so we can all hear their reasons for decisions? Particularly in the VAR era this would be worthwhile. If they can do on field video decisions with live commentary in a matter of seconds in cricket it can’t be beyond the realms of possibility in football.
 
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On a similar topic, is there a good reason why refs can’t be miked up like in rugby so we can all hear their reasons for decisions? Particularly in the VAR era this would be worthwhile. If they can do on field video decisions with live commentary in a matter of seconds in cricket it can’t be beyond the realms of possibility in football.

Because footballers can't control their language. I believe it's been tried a couple of times.
 

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...miked up referees.....on the feckin GP PA system....righto....that'll work.
 

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Because footballers can't control their language. I believe it's been tried a couple of times.

They’ll get it after they get a load of fines and other sanctions in the first few weeks. Though the FA will need a team of translators.
 

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The idea of a ref waving on the physio when the ball has moved on in play should be considered.
 

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Don't do it, unless instructed by the ref or the manager/coach. :shrug:

Don't see an issue. The players on the pitch know when a player is seriously injured. They know when to stop play.

Fully agree, just a shame it had to come from an individual/club rather than the people that run the game. We all know this should have happened years ago just takes so long to implement these types of changes, and sums up the ineptitude of the FA once again in failing to act on a common sense issue, lack of leadership once again.
 

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The Players now go down and hold their head

If they continue with their cheating I fully agree with Bristol Manager

Play to the Whistle
 

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Fully agree, just a shame it had to come from an individual/club rather than the people that run the game. We all know this should have happened years ago just takes so long to implement these types of changes, and sums up the ineptitude of the FA once again in failing to act on a common sense issue, lack of leadership once again.

It is the rule that the ref should decide and I am sure this was clarified some tears ago by the footballing authorities. It is the players themselves who have taken it upon themselves to ignore the rule and to kick the ball out and then expect it to be returned to them all for time wasting purposes. In effect BC are simply saying we are going to implement strictly the FA's rule on this issue.
 
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The Players now go down and hold their head

If they continue with their cheating I fully agree with Bristol Manager

Play to the Whistle

Seen ti so many times, no injury or injury to their leg but they go down and hold their head.
 

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The idea of a ref waving on the physio when the ball has moved on in play should be considered.

Why if it’s not a serious injury that requires the game to be stopped the player can get up and walk hobble off the pitch
 

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Kick the player out if they feign injury i.e. send them off with an Elastoplast and red card!

Ref has 2 asst. refs to help him in case his back is turned to a real injury. They can flag up. Therefore, play to the ref’s whistle.

Pontus will keep playing to the whistle even if all 11 of the other team are writhing around on the ground!
 

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Why if it’s not a serious injury that requires the game to be stopped the player can get up and walk hobble off the pitch

Yes but a player isn't going to do that is he, the referee allows play to continue and waves a physio on at his own discretion, if he wants to. The whole point of this thread is cheating players/holding up play too often
 
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