Leeds (H) - Special Security Arrangements

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This thread sums up how much a disaster relegation would be for Leeds. Nothing against ourselves but special security arrangements, threads about the game weeks out will pretty much be Leeds life in the Football league. Everywhere they go in the Championship as before will be such a big occasion which as we've seen makes promotion challenging for them.
 

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Don't know how to do it. Will try. GPG already commented on it.
The button to the right of the like button on a tweet lets you share by copying a link to the tweet which you can then paste on here (it looks like an upturned square bracket with an up arrow above it).
 

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This thread sums up how much a disaster relegation would be for Leeds. Nothing against ourselves but special security arrangements, threads about the game weeks out will pretty much be Leeds life in the Football league. Everywhere they go in the Championship as before will be such a big occasion which as we've seen makes promotion challenging for them.

Probably less of a disaster for them than it would be for Everton or Burnley though
 

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I'm not sure he's doing much wrong. Is it against the rules for him to pass the season ticket on to himself?
 

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I'm not sure he's doing much wrong. Is it against the rules for him to pass the season ticket on to himself?
He’ll be an away fan in a home area.

That he’s entered via his own season ticket instead of any other means is irrelevant isn’t it?
 

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He’ll be an away fan in a home area.

That he’s entered via his own season ticket instead of any other means is irrelevant isn’t it?
I think we can’t do much about “second team” STs as long as they behave with manners when they come. He sounds a dick but has also come to see us for a number of years as his local club, a thing we’ve actively encouraged until very recently. Passing on to a pure Leeds fan who hasn’t got even that link to us is different.
 

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He’ll be an away fan in a home area.

That he’s entered via his own season ticket instead of any other means is irrelevant isn’t it?

Tricky one, he's probably got more Taps than some genuine Bees fans. I assume he isn't a Leeds fan who has bought a season ticket just for this match, he's been coming for a few seasons by the sounds of it.

He isn't giving his ticket away, just offering advice. Obviously if he actively starts supporting Leeds during the match then that's a problem, otherwise seems a bit harsh to stop him coming.
 

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Tricky one, he's probably got more Taps than some genuine Bees fans. I assume he isn't a Leeds fan who has bought a season ticket just for this match, he's been coming for a few seasons by the sounds of it.

He isn't giving his ticket away, just offering advice. Obviously if he actively starts supporting Leeds during the match then that's a problem, otherwise seems a bit harsh to stop him coming.
I say punch him first in the ground before kick off and apologise at the end if he doesn’t actually show support for the weird lot getting relegated.
 

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I think we can’t do much about “second team” STs as long as they behave with manners when they come. He sounds a dick but has also come to see us for a number of years as his local club, a thing we’ve actively encouraged until very recently. Passing on to a pure Leeds fan who hasn’t got even that link to us is different.
I have said before that the whole concept of second team STs is just weird and something I don’t understand.
 

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I have said before that the whole concept of second team STs is just weird and something I don’t understand.
It is but some people are weird. Though maybe not much weirder than those doing a regular 400 mile round trip to go to their non local team!
 

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I think we can’t do much about “second team” STs as long as they behave with manners when they come. He sounds a dick but has also come to see us for a number of years as his local club, a thing we’ve actively encouraged until very recently. Passing on to a pure Leeds fan who hasn’t got even that link to us is different.
I’m going to disagree on this one.

The club has issued a clear communication saying that away fans found in home areas will be required to leave the stadium. As this chap has outed himself as a Leeds fan, he can have no complaints if the club acts on the email that all ST holders have received.

The other problem is that BFC *doesn’t* know how he might behave. Say Patsy Bamford comes on as a sub and scores 95th minute goal that secures Leeds PL status. If this guy celebrates, there is the potential for it to kick off. If someone gets injured, questions might rightly be asked why BFC let a known Leeds fan occupy that seat.

Some might view it as harsh but I would cancel his ST for this game.
 

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Looking at some of his historical tweets he's obviously been coming to LR for a while so not sure we can do much about this as I'm sure we allowed our resident brentford/west ham fan to attend!
 

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Looking at some of his historical tweets he's obviously been coming to LR for a while so not sure we can do much about this as I'm sure we allowed our resident brentford/west ham fan to attend!
If he sits on his hands all game and cheers the Bees he or the BFC officials won't have a problem. If however he squeals in delight at a late Leeds winner it wouldn't be great for anyone concerned.

Having a clear picture of his face on social media, in the context of that tweet, isn't very clever either TBH 🤷🏻‍♂️
 

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He’ll be an away fan in a home area.

That he’s entered via his own season ticket instead of any other means is irrelevant isn’t it?
You can't pass a ticket on to an away fan. You also can't support the away team from the home areas. He hasn't suggested he will do either of those things

There aren't enough hardcore Brentford to fill the ground yet.
 

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If he sits on his hands all game and cheers the Bees he or the BFC officials won't have a problem. If however he squeals in delight at a late Leeds winner it wouldn't be great for anyone concerned.

Having a clear picture of his face on social media, in the context of that tweet, isn't very clever either TBH 🤷🏻‍♂️
Just looked….won’t forget it now !!! 👍😎
 

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The real test as to whether he can come is, when he has attended previously, does he stay and dance to FFD or does he sneak out with Hullbee to avoid the congestion?

If it's the latter, then throw him in the Thames.
 

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You can't pass a ticket on to an away fan. You also can't support the away team from the home areas. He hasn't suggested he will do either of those things

There aren't enough hardcore Brentford to fill the ground yet.
He’s written “I’m a Leeds fan” and hashtag “MOT”. There are far more deserving cases than this guy in the waiting list for a Brentford season ticket.
 

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To be fair he’s not offering his ticket to anyone, just advice on where to get a beer etc. The best advice would be “bag of cans on the train home”.
 

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To be fair he’s not offering his ticket to anyone, just advice on where to get a beer etc. The best advice would be “bag of cans on the train home”.
Mate, they're not paying 10p for a plaggy.
 

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As he has definitely outed himself I‘m sure the club, together with GPG super sleuths can track him down, refund him his match day ticket money and put his seat on the exchange then wish him a fond farewell.
Cliff Crown's an Arsenal fan. Should his place in the box be put on the exchange too, next time we play the gooners?
 

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Cliff Crown's an Arsenal fan. Should his place in the box be put on the exchange too, next time we play the gooners?
Apples and oranges. He’s an official of the club. I’m pretty sure Cliff will be wanting us to win against Arsenal where that guy would be pleased if Leeds got a result.
 

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As he has definitely outed himself I‘m sure the club, together with GPG super sleuths can track him down, refund him his match day ticket money and put his seat on the exchange then wish him a fond farewell.

It's difficult, as I don't think he has done anything wrong (yet). If he turned up at the Leeds game with a jersey on, shouting when Leeds are attacking or score then ok he is clearly supporting the away team in a home area.

If he has taken advantage of the club's initial season ticket sale policy where a ST holder from GP was allowed to buy an extra for pretty much anybody then he benefited from that policy and has clearly been attending Brentford games on a consistent basis - hard to see how he has broken the terms of his ST. For all we know he might have had a ST at GP and been attending for years.

The tweet wasn't helpful though when the club and authorities are clearly trying to make the event as secure as possible. I'm not sure but the tweet alone might prompt the club to act for this particular game and speak to the ST holder.
 
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It's difficult, as I don't think he has done anything wrong (yet). If he turned up at the Leeds game with a jersey on, shouting when Leeds are attacking or score then ok he is clearly supporting the away team in a home area.

If he has taken advantage of the club's initial season ticket sale policy where a ST holder from GP was allowed to buy an extra for pretty much anybody then he benefited from that policy and has clearly been attending Brentford games on a consistent basis - hard to see how he has broken the terms of his ST. For all we know he might have had a ST at GP and been attending for years.

The tweet wasn't helpful though when the club and authorities are clearly trying to make the event as secure as possible, I'm not sure but the tweet alone might prompt the club to act for this particular game and speak to the ST holder.
He’s clearly a Leeds fan when they play Brentford.
 

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He’s clearly a Leeds fan when they play Brentford.

Fair, that is not the away end of Griffin Park. It does show he attended GP though, he might of had a ST or benefited from the initial ST sales process for LR but those tweets aren't helpful.

I think it's a difficult situation for the club if he has a ST and causes no issues at the events. Due to the security arrangements for this particular game the club might have to speak to him, but I don't think there should be any issues beyond the Leeds game.
 

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Fair, that is not the away end of Griffin Park. It does show he attended GP though, he might of had a ST or benefited from the initial ST sales process for LR. I think it's a difficult situation for the club if he has a ST and causes no issues at the events. Due to the security arrangements for this particular game the club might have to speak to him, but I don't think there should be any issues beyond the Leeds game.
It’s clear cut for me. We have plenty of real Brentford fans his ticket can go to.
 

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Separate matter - my mate can't go next Sunday as he's away. I want to take my daughter in his place and have his season ticket. Should I check with the club or just go with it? How close will they check tickets?
 

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It’s clear cut for me. We have plenty of real Brentford fans his ticket can go to.

I agree, but without being critical the club did have a policy where a GP ST holder could buy an extra at LR for friends/families/colleagues to encourage uptake.

We can't take all those tickets back, as there was clearly many tickets sold to people who would have Brentford as their second, local or just a team close to home they can watch a game of football at. I'm unsure if this guy bought ST this way.
 

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Separate matter - my mate can't go next Sunday as he's away. I want to take my daughter in his place and have his season ticket. Should I check with the club or just go with it? How close will they check tickets?
You'll be fine
 

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PUBLIC SERVICE ANNOUNCEMENT

As mentioned above, this guy is a Leeds fan who will be in the Brentford end on Sunday, occupying a seat that should be used by one of the many Bees fans who can’t get a ticket for the game. He also thinks it’s ‘hilarious’ that Brentford fans have an issue with him openly saying he’ll be in our end.

If you see him, immediately report him to the police and/or stewards to have him thrown out and his ticket confiscated.

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PUBLIC SERVICE ANNOUNCEMENT

As mentioned above, this guy is a Leeds fan who will be in the Brentford end on Sunday, occupying a seat that should be used by one of the many Bees fans who can’t get a ticket for the game. He also thinks it’s ‘hilarious’ that Brentford fans have an issue with him openly saying he’ll be in our end.

If you see him, immediately report him to the police and/or stewards to have him thrown out and his ticket confiscated.

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Whilst I understand the thinking behind this, would it not be more valuable to be seeking out those fans that have passed on / sold their tickets to Leeds fans?

There will be plenty of "second team" STHs, the lads next to me who are Chelsea for example, but until they do something they shouldn't I wouldn't really dream of reporting them. In fact, since the Chelsea game they've put their tickets on the Exchange quite a bit 😅

If the guy starts openly supporting Leeds on the day, then so be it, but I don't know if a full on manhunt needs to take place just yet?

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PUBLIC SERVICE ANNOUNCEMENT

As mentioned above, this guy is a Leeds fan who will be in the Brentford end on Sunday, occupying a seat that should be used by one of the many Bees fans who can’t get a ticket for the game. He also thinks it’s ‘hilarious’ that Brentford fans have an issue with him openly saying he’ll be in our end.

If you see him, immediately report him to the police and/or stewards to have him thrown out and his ticket confiscated.

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Surely if he bought a season ticket & has been to most ? games I don’t see a problem. The club wanted to sell season tickets & he bought one.
 

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Whilst I understand the thinking behind this, would it not be more valuable to be seeking out those fans that have passed on / sold their tickets to Leeds fans?

There will be plenty of "second team" STHs, the lads next to me who are Chelsea for example, but until they do something they shouldn't I wouldn't really dream of reporting them. In fact, since the Chelsea game they've put their tickets on the Exchange quite a bit 😅

If the guy starts openly supporting Leeds on the day, then so be it, but I don't know if a full on manhunt needs to take place just yet?

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He’s a Leeds fan. The club has said any Leeds fans found in our end will be thrown out.
 

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He’s a Leeds fan. The club has said any Leeds fans found in our end will be thrown out.
They've said all season the home end is for home supporters, but I've not seen much of an uproar to kick him, or any of the others, out of the stands?

As I say, if a fan is openly away, then get them gone, but if they're able to sit on their hands then so be it. Plenty of Brentford have done the same this season.
 
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