Lionel Road North Car Break In Again

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I don't park in Lionel Road North because of vehicle break ins and even if my car is not broken into I know that I am leaving it at a higher risk and for that it is left elsewhere.
So I thought about this a couple of years ago and I have wondered what the cost would be to actually police the road.
How many cars park up?
30 to 40?
Why not give a couple of lads a couple of quid a car to mind them.
From the school to the A4 say.
Or consult a security firm?
When I was a kid and my dad took me to watch Portsmouth it was common to park on free 'car parks' which were actually bomb sites as the city was heavily bombed during the war. Kids use to 'mind your car' in exchange for a couple of bob. The alternative was probably coming back to find your tyres let down!
 

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Yeah, who needs a planet anyway?
The planet will survive quite comfortably with or without us on it.
Take a look at all the other planets around us - merrily going on their way, with enormous climate changes occurring on them, and not a single SUV in sight!

Antarctica was a tropical rain forest a few millions of years ago, the Earth is at the coolest it has ever been, so is ice normal or not?!
 
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The police force hard at work!
Just one of them on duty for a couple of hours in Lionel Road North might help solve the ongoing car break-in problems.

Instead of which these protesters have caused a multiple serious pile up on the M25, while the police just look at them.

It’s pathetic our standard of policing!
 

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I thought thats what the traffic lights are for
Normally, yes, but some people still like to take their chances.

I fear it won't be long before there is an accident.
 

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The police force hard at work!
Just one of them on duty for a couple of hours in Lionel Road North might help solve the ongoing car break-in problems.

Instead of which these protesters have caused a multiple serious pile up on the M25, while the police just look at them.

It’s pathetic our standard of policing!

Again, just get the water cannons out or seek the services of the Ealing Road Phantom to fart in their faces :)
 

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The strange hypocrisy of climate change activists whereby by blocking main roads they cause even more pollution.

Also, as they sit there with their rucksacks and trainers made by sweat labour in Asia, and mobile phones assembled the other side of the world with lithium in the batteries from China and Afghanistan.

All that stuff has to be transported from the other side of the world.
If they only wore or bought stuff made just down the road in the UK, I might think they had some integrity, which they don’t!

So crime, as in Lionel Road North, goes on everywhere, whilst the police just stand there looking at these very annoying people.
How much police time is that taking up? But it’s soft stuff for the police, which they just love doing, as it gives them no real threat.

If I park my car on a yellow line in London, it’ll get towed away.
Likewise this needs to happen with these disrupters of society! Just tow them away!
I am sure that the police on the M25 wish that it were that easy to move demonstrators from the road. I would estimate that there were a couple of hundred such demonstrators present at each location. All are committing the offence of obstructing the free passage of the highway, and are thus subject to arrest. Such demonstrators cannot just be physically moved without being lawfully arrested, and that would mean at least two officers per prisoner. Then there is the transport to a police station the logistics in respect of the number of police officers, police vans, and police cells speak for themselves. At best it is a very slow elongated process that practically is perhaps best not started in the first place with demonstrators, doing their best to be obstructive. The result then is often a great many officers standing about doing very little other than attempting to keep the peace. It looks like a very effective way of demonstrating, and as you allude to, preventing police being more effectively deployed to places like Lionel Road. Such are the benefits of living in a free, democratic society, something probably not appreciated by those who would wish to disrupt the lives of the majority!
 

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The guy minding the school car park must have seen them as it was around that area. But its a public road. Private security on very dodgy ground if intervene i would have thought.
 

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The guy minding the school car park must have seen them as it was around that area. But its a public road. Private security on very dodgy ground if intervene i would have thought.
A sheer presence could be enough, but I get your point.
If any body was to object it would probably be the police itself as they would not like private enterprises policing the streets and private vehicles.
Something has to be done though as these tea leaves have a free reign over left vehicles and nothing is in the way to stop them.
 

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With the amount of stewards, even those you see just approaching BFC from the Great West Road, who’ll be kicking their heels for a couple of hours from kick-off time, then perhaps a couple of them could be loaned by the club to keep an eye out on Lionel Road North.
 

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The planet will survive quite comfortably with or without us on it.
Take a look at all the other planets around us - merrily going on their way, with enormous climate changes occurring on them, and not a single SUV in sight!

Antarctica was a tropical rain forest a few millions of years ago, the Earth is at the coolest it has ever been, so is ice normal or not?!
The Planet will survive, the human race won't. That could include children and Grandchildren.
 

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The Planet will survive, the human race won't. That could include children and Grandchildren.
Loads of scaremongering going on, just to keep us stumbling from one fear crisis to the next.
A meteorite could suddenly arrive and blow us to smithereens, just as with the dinosaurs.
Who knows what will happen tomorrow, but fear is what governments do to control us and keep us in line!

When I was growing up, it was that we’d be blown up by nuclear weapons, - there’s always something that governments tell us to be afraid of.

Let’s face it we can’t change the past, none of us know what will happen tomorrow, plus we can’t control the future, so let’s all just be as happy as we can be, and enjoy right now.
 

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Loads of scaremongering going on, just to keep us stumbling from one fear crisis to the next.
A meteorite could suddenly arrive and blow us to smithereens, just as with the dinosaurs.
Who knows what will happen tomorrow, but fear is what governments do to control us and keep us in line!

When I was growing up, it was that we’d be blown up by nuclear weapons, - there’s always something that governments tell us to be afraid of.

Let’s face it we can’t change the past, none of us know what will happen tomorrow, plus we can’t control the future, so let’s all just be as happy as we can be, and enjoy right now.
This is hardly relevant to car break-ins on Lionel Road. Please stop it.
 

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I believe Guy Lambert is the LBH Councillor for Brentford, covering Lionel Road North, and he's also the Cabinet Member for Highways, Recycling and Companies. Perhaps someone in his area and/or the Club needs to get him involved. Anyone here on the BrentfordTW8.com forum who can post something? I think he's quite active on there, I doubt he reads the GPG that often.
 

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The police force hard at work!
Just one of them on duty for a couple of hours in Lionel Road North might help solve the ongoing car break-in problems.

Instead of which these protesters have caused a multiple serious pile up on the M25, while the police just look at them.

It’s pathetic our standard of policing!
Give it a rest. Cheap shots at the Police will achieve nothing. Anyone parking in LRN takes a significant risk. I can think of many streets in West London which I would not care to walk along at night. I wouldn't walk down them, then blame the Police if I got mugged. I know several Police officers, their experiences are shocking. They see worse things in a week than I will see in my lifetime
 

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Give it a rest. Cheap shots at the Police will achieve nothing. Anyone parking in LRN takes a significant risk. I can think of many streets in West London which I would not care to walk along at night. I wouldn't walk down them, then blame the Police if I got mugged. I know several Police officers, their experiences are shocking. They see worse things in a week than I will see in my lifetime
Agree, but with the M25 protest they were present and the protesters were causing an offense they should have been arrested, it will just
lead to protesters breaking the law with impunity IMO
 

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Agree, but with the M25 protest they were present and the protesters were causing an offense they should have been arrested, it will just
lead to protesters breaking the law with impunity IMO
I agree, they should've been carted off and there is sufficient legislation for a variety of charges to be brought against them. However, a PC, known to me, arrested one of them in Central London for blocking the road and behaving in an aggressive way. A holding station had been set up in South London to process these offenders so this officer had to spend ages waiting to charge this particular character and bail them out to appear at a Magistrate's court the following Monday. Needless to say, they never turned up so broke bail and now officers in the Midlands will have to go to their house and arrest them again. The bureaucracy is staggering and Extinction Rebellion know this and play on it. In the great scheme of things, cars in LRN are not going to be high priority any day soon. Paying someone to wear a high-viz and walk up and down with a web-cam prominently on display might work but all they can do is call the Police, who, on a weekend, will be handling Extinction Rebellion or, as his been the case for some months, big marches in central London by anti-vaxxers which tend not to be reported in the media.
 

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Normally, yes, but some people still like to take their chances.

I fear it won't be long before there is an accident.
The traffic light crossing point at Lionel road is a serious accident waiting to happen. Very short duration pedestrian light and no link between A4 east bound and west bound traffic lanes results in too many people trying to shelter on the island between the two. Stewards do nothing to assist.

Need O.B in attendance with the means to override the standard pedestrian time allocation for that junction for 30 minutes before, and especially after, each match. The O.B could spend the time in between deterring the local car break-ins occurring during the match. :sorted:
 

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The traffic light crossing point at Lionel road is a serious accident waiting to happen. Very short duration pedestrian light and no link between A4 east bound and west bound traffic lanes results in too many people trying to shelter on the island between the two. Stewards do nothing to assist.

Need O.B in attendance with the means to override the standard pedestrian time allocation for that junction for 30 minutes before, and especially after, each match. The O.B could spend the time in between deterring the local car break-ins occurring during the match. :sorted:
They do something similar on the A316 when there are games on at Twickenham.
 

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When I was a kid and my dad took me to watch Portsmouth it was common to park on free 'car parks' which were actually bomb sites as the city was heavily bombed during the war. Kids use to 'mind your car' in exchange for a couple of bob. The alternative was probably coming back to find your tyres let down!
I had a 10 year old kid ask me the same question when parking the car on the street in Birmingham for a match in the 90s.
 

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I agree, they should've been carted off and there is sufficient legislation for a variety of charges to be brought against them. However, a PC, known to me, arrested one of them in Central London for blocking the road and behaving in an aggressive way. A holding station had been set up in South London to process these offenders so this officer had to spend ages waiting to charge this particular character and bail them out to appear at a Magistrate's court the following Monday. Needless to say, they never turned up so broke bail and now officers in the Midlands will have to go to their house and arrest them again. The bureaucracy is staggering and Extinction Rebellion know this and play on it. In the great scheme of things, cars in LRN are not going to be high priority any day soon. Paying someone to wear a high-viz and walk up and down with a web-cam prominently on display might work but all they can do is call the Police, who, on a weekend, will be handling Extinction Rebellion or, as his been the case for some months, big marches in central London by anti-vaxxers which tend not to be reported in the media.
Or alternatively, as earlier suggested, people will pay a security firm or take the law into their own hands. If the law doesn't protect people and their property properly, that is the probable outcome, unless people are satisfied to be robbed. We are about 40,000 police too short, there is ridiculous bureaucracy and an increasing number of the ones we have are not the sharpest, nor are their bosses.
 

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I think they do a serious necessary job so please no one knock them.
Absolutely. It does seem a bit crazy to have loads of pedestrians crossing major roads into one of the biggest cities in the world, but if it's necessary it needs to be done safely.

I believe they were supposed to be building a bridge from the station at Twickenham for the World Cup a few years back, but it never happened.
 

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When I was a kid and my dad took me to watch Portsmouth it was common to park on free 'car parks' which were actually bomb sites as the city was heavily bombed during the war. Kids use to 'mind your car' in exchange for a couple of bob. The alternative was probably coming back to find your tyres let down!

Yeh - I made loads of cash when I was a kid especially if you went where the "posh" cars parked..... haha... :sorted: :sorted:
 

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Sounds like Ken has been enticed out of retirement for this one for a little bit of cash-in-hand plain clothes work.
 

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Saw a newish BMW estate with its back window hanging off on my walk back to the car.
 

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FFS why aren’t they putting cameras there or a No parking at anytime or even a sign warning that thieves operate in the area with photos of victims cars.
Or even a copper posted there on crime prevention duty advising people not to park there. Mind you it a big area.
 

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I’ve never parked there before, but I parked right up the other end just off Popes Lane because of what I’d heard on here.
 

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I walked down the road and saw the same vehicle, wasn't sure whether to take a photo or not! (Thought it would be a bit odd, even if just to share here). Was pretty surprised given the road was apparently going to be kept an eye on by the police!

There was some note left on its front windshield as well, not sure if it was a parking ticket or something else. It's not impossible that car has been there a while but that's probably not the case.
 

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Whether it's car thefts, drug pushers or prostitution, all you do when you tackle an areas problem is you move it elsewhere. Even CPZ are a prime example of just shifting a problem.
 

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Very sad to hear that.. sadly some are not on Twitter so a club email needs to be sent out to inform people
 

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As there were no trains I thought I’d park near my old spot near griffin park on the Butts and walk down, was worried about parking closer due to the comments seen on here. Upon return I found my Passenger window smashed in all for some coins in the cup holder.
Sorry to hear that mate.
 

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Saw another car with its back window smashed today after the game., Disgraceful the police aren't sorting this out... This country is becoming more of a sh1thole by the day!
They are not interested and it seems you park at risk.
But if you caught the little bastard and give him a kicking then plod will come down on you like a ton of bricks.
How dare you take the law into your own hands even though they will do nothing to uphold it.
 
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