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Don't think we need to. The fact he's pulled the article down from GWL tells me all I need to know :sorted:

The article is still there - the words have changed slightly. If you think I would write something that I didn't believe to be 100 per cent accurate then you are very much mistaken.
That is all I will say on this.
 

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The article is still there - the words have changed slightly. If you think I would write something that I didn't believe to be 100 per cent accurate then you are very much mistaken.
That is all I will say on this.
But the previous 100% correct version had to be changed. Does that mean that both versions are 100% correct? If so, why did they change? Sorry a bit confused by it all but then I'm not a very important journalist like all the very important journalists I've been reading on Twitter today.
 

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The article is still there - the words have changed slightly. If you think I would write something that I didn't believe to be 100 per cent accurate then you are very much mistaken.
That is all I will say on this.

You can't hit and run like that. You removed it and then reinstated it. If you believed it to be "100 per cent accurate" then why did you remove it, change it, and then reinstate it? Surely both stories can't be 100% correct?

I don't believe either story to be 100 per cent accurate although there some people may see some truth in it if the story is spun in a certain way.

Whatever the truth or otherwise the way that you have portrayed the club (and by extension its owner) is similar to your irrational hatred of Jenson Button.

Good luck.
 

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because every journalist always tells the truth..... That's there job, he wrote a "story" , the websites had hits because of it. Job done. That's what he is paid for, to get idiots clicking the page/buying the publication because of what he has wrote.
 

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because every journalist always tells the truth..... That's there job, he wrote a "story" , the websites had hits because of it. Job done. That's what he is paid for, to get idiots clicking the page/buying the publication because of what he has wrote.

100% correct according to the journalist in question. Nothing made up.
 

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The article is still there - the words have changed slightly. If you think I would write something that I didn't believe to be 100 per cent accurate then you are very much mistaken.
That is all I will say on this.

What have you changed and why, which bits do you stand by and why are you unhappy with MB and the way things are run, nice words by Calvin about you, you must be very proud.
 

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The article is still there - the words have changed slightly. If you think I would write something that I didn't believe to be 100 per cent accurate then you are very much mistaken.
That is all I will say on this.

Hang on a minute. So if 100% accurate why the need to change the words even slightly?

I also think the reference to Marinus's comments about foreign players getting injured and portraying this as a pop at MB is surely your own assumption?
 

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Sorry. Can someone tell me what's going on?

Yes.

1 Salford Bee posted on his employer's website that Benham interfered with MD's choice of captain (Dean) telling him he can't appoint Dean
2. This "news" is then picked up by Calvin who implies that there is all sorts of sh*t going on with the club that Salford Bee supports calling him a "respected local journalist" (sic). Likewise Beesotted pick up on it and a write a story about it
3. Salford Bee suddenly retracts his "100% correct" story. It is removed from the "news" website.
4. Salford Bee then reinstates his "100% correct" story with a whole set of new words and caveats
5. Salford Bee claims on the GPG both his inconsistent stories are "100% correct"
 

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Yes. Salford Bee posted that Benham interfered with MD's choice of captain (Dean) telling him he can't appoint Dean
This "news" is then picked up by Calvin who implies that there is all sorts of sh*t going on with the club that Salford Bee supports
Salford Bee suddenly retracts his "100% correct" story. It is removed from the "news" website.
Salford Bee then reinstates his "100% correct" story with a whole set of new words and caveats

He's just confirmed my thoughts about journos in general I'm afraid. All looking for the sensational grabbing headlines. You couldn't make it up, actually on second thoughts maybe you could lol
 

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Thanks for that. Figures.

Going a little off topic here but the article states "…that Dijkhuizen is now the club's shortest permanent manager" – what about that Eddie May fella just before Micky Adams in the late 90s. He didn't last longer than MD; did he?
 

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Even brentford supporters willing to dish the dirt and give even more fuel to the fire. Asif we didnt have enough benham haters at the moment...
 

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.......and who would have thought that the gpg is a breeding ground for radicalisation:looks:
 

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Thanks for that. Figures.

Going a little off topic here but the article states "…that Dijkhuizen is now the club's shortest permanent manager" – what about that Eddie May fella just before Micky Adams in the late 90s. He didn't last longer than MD; did he?

Think Eddie May went first week of November Stedders. Think his assistant was Clive Walker as well wasn't it? It wasn't less than 10 games I'm sure.
 
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Think Eddie May went first week of November Stedders. Think his assistant was Clive Walker as well wasn't it? It wasn't less than 10 games I'm sure.

Think you're right, Mick, though I can barely remember one. Great times... :grey:
 

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Think you're right, Mick, though I can barely remember one. Great times... :grey:

Wasn't all bad. We had Robert Taylor up front still. Good goal away in the cup against Southampton.

That's all I can remember though tbh. Might have imagined it. Or he nearly scored ...
 

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Thanks for that. Figures.

Going a little off topic here but the article states "…that Dijkhuizen is now the club's shortest permanent manager" – what about that Eddie May fella just before Micky Adams in the late 90s. He didn't last longer than MD; did he?

Think he did.
 

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Can someone briefly explain who Calvin is pls? Who does he write for?

#NotITK
 

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A bit of a shoddy disjointed report. Assume I must have read the version after the more interesting 100% correct bits were taken out
Love the swipe at Rasmus...
"Ankersen's bold comment has not been the only confident statement coming out from the club with the co-director of football stating the goal is to be in the Premier League in three years."
Bold is what goal setting is all about.
Saying "We will be mid-table in the Championship in three years", the season after we made the play offs would not be something to inspire the players. I hope everyone connected with the club shares Rasmus' ambition...otherwise what's the point?
 

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Is Tim Street on holiday as I always find what he has to write balanced and fair.
 

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The ****ing knives have been out for Matthew ever since MW left... it's getting beyond a ****ing joke now..
 

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Is Tim Street on holiday as I always find what he has to write balanced and fair.

Spoke to him a few months back at a non league game and stated he was covering more local papers to where he is living now ( Stevenage) .
 

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Jim Levack now peddling the guff about Benham not liking Harlee over on Beesotted...He then claimed his source was getwestlondon...how bizarre

How can you be absolutely sure it is guff? The Times story was guff, but it turned out to be true; the Sun was peddling lies until .... it wasn't; and now apparently Moore is doing the same. There have been rumours quite reliably sourced for a while about MB not liking certain players. On that basis, and because our recent experience of newspaper reporting of the club's hierarchy suggests otherwise, I would be very surprised if this story is a complete fabrication.
 

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How can you be absolutely sure it is guff? The Times story was guff, but it turned out to be true; the Sun was peddling lies until .... it wasn't; and now apparently Moore is doing the same. There have been rumours quite reliably sourced for a while about MB not liking certain players. On that basis, and because our recent experience of newspaper reporting of the club's hierarchy suggests otherwise, I would be very surprised if this story is a complete fabrication.

We all knew The Times story was true. Nobody on a paper of record goes out on a limb without being sure of his sources. And boy way he sure of his sources
The Sun story had some legs in it, but lost credibility by saying the Derby coach was taking over
Tom Moore's story well...it's incorrect. I heard he was desperate to break the story about MD leaving early this morning but couldn't get the assurance that it was correct in time to get his scoop of the century.
I think his reaction to that and Beesotted getting the summer scoops has led him into a mano-a-mano situation with Jenson Button.....er....I mean Matthew Benham.
 

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Who the f**k cares whether MB likes or dislikes some players. They're paid to do a job and should bloody well just get on with it.. I don't believe MB has any influence on the day to day running of the 1st team squad and neither should he.
 

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The ****ing knives have been out for Matthew ever since MW left... it's getting beyond a ****ing joke now..

Has it really been knives? Matthew made the decision and has to live with it, as it stands right now he's got it massively wrong. That doesn't take away anything what he's done for the club either, for the record.
 

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Has it really been knives? Matthew made the decision and has to live with it, as it stands right now he's got it massively wrong. That doesn't take away anything what he's done for the club either, for the record.

just how has he got it wrong? it's only been a few games in the season.. Harry ****ing dipshit Rednob was having his pathetic say over it, people are saying we are a laughing stock but as long as Matthew long term goal is meet these mugs are going to have egg on their faces.. he is looking out for the long term future of the club, he's put his money where his mouth is, I've got over MD sacking today but I firmly believe he knows what he is doing, rightly or wrongly to what ever you think.. I said myself on here, that Harlee should not be made captain if he hadn't signed a new deal, well before a decision was made about captain.. you can't have a player undecided on his future, I didn't agree with Jake being made but I got to live with it..
 

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Who the f**k cares whether MB likes or dislikes some players. .

It is a problem if it effects player selection and recruitment. I don't know whether it has, but there is some evidence that it might have.
 

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Has it really been knives? Matthew made the decision and has to live with it, as it stands right now he's got it massively wrong. That doesn't take away anything what he's done for the club either, for the record.

You can only make a judgement at the end of this season and even that would only be a part judgement. Rasmus has stated that our objective is to be playing Premier football in three years time. Let's wait and see. I doubt that Warburton would have had a successful start to the season given the changes in personnel and injuries.
 

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I don't believe he'd write the story without being sure of his facts.....but id be more inclined to believe the club thought harlee was to outspoken to be captain rather than he isn't liked
 

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It is a problem if it effects player selection and recruitment. I don't know whether it has, but there is some evidence that it might have.

I cannot believe that MB would openly make it known that he dislikes any player. The other way round is another thing!!! Plenty of owners and managers down the years have probably hated some of their players as well as players hating each other, i.e. Cole & Sheringham. I don't believe at Brentford that would have made any difference to which players the manager has selected.
 

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Who the f**k cares whether MB likes or dislikes some players. They're paid to do a job and should bloody well just get on with it.. I don't believe MB has any influence on the day to day running of the 1st team squad and neither should he.

Correct, He has a full time job running a multi million pound business, that's why he employs people to run the club, the danger is that any more untruths and lies about him and the club from ill informed journalists MIGHT just make him think about pulling out, I think he is strong enough to ride this storm out, but you never know.
 

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Correct, He has a full time job running a multi million pound business, that's why he employs people to run the club, the danger is that any more untruths and lies about him and the club from ill informed journalists MIGHT just make him think about pulling out, I think he is strong enough to ride this storm out, but you never know.

Absolutely. People forget that he is the owner, not the CEO or chairman. I don't believe he made this decision lightly and I don't believe it was made purely on results. If anyone is stupid enough to think that MB and the DOF's wouldn't be aware of the fall out from a decision like this, then they need their heads examining. I've always said that MB will get us to the PL, but that it might take us going through a couple of managers en route until we get the right fit. Didn't do Watford any harm.
 

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Absolutely. People forget that he is the owner, not the CEO or chairman. I don't believe he made this decision lightly and I don't believe it was made purely on results. If anyone is stupid enough to think that MB and the DOF's wouldn't be aware of the fall out from a decision like this, then they need their heads examining. I've always said that MB will get us to the PL, but that it might take us going through a couple of managers en route until we get the right fit. Didn't do Watford any harm.

You've become far too sensible in your old age!!!
 

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We had signed a centre back for a club record fee so it is fairly likely that he would have been, if not first choice, certainly a regular starter, possibly at the expense of Harlee. It wouldn't have made a lot of sense in those circumstances to pick Harlee as captain so Bidwell, an almost guaranteed starter and senior professional (despite his age) would therefore be a more logical choice. Circumstances changed after the decision was made but you would hardly have turned round to Jake and taken away the captaincy.
 

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