London Irish RFC and the Brentford Community Stadium

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I have real concerns about what It is doing to the pitch, and that is after one half of one game.
Perhaps that’s why we’ve already started going more direct this season.
Please,are you serious.
The pitch looked fine,and is clearly designed to do the job.
 

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It’s not their ‘home ground’ at all. It never will be. They are just paying us rent to play at our home for the time being.

It‘s no more their home than a room at a hotel is my ‘home’ when my work dump me somewhere for six months or so. I’m amazed that any genuine Brentford ‘fan’ would ever think otherwise.
Strange post - they aren't renting a hotel room; they're renting a home. If one signs a tenancy agreement to live somewhere whilst they don't own the property they're entitled to call it home, live there etc. In this deal yes they're house sharing with the landlord but it is as much their home/space as it is Brentford's. Therefore they're allowed to do everything that's in the contract which I presume includes training sessions, branding it how they like on the days they have it etc. It was obvious today all the Brentford branding inside the stadium was changed to London Irish; this is a different type of deal to what rugby clubs usually sign, this isn't just a pitch on gameday - we need to accept this is London Irish's home, yes we own the building and benefit from the income but it's a shared home, which I think will work well.
 

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I'd like to consider myself a genuine Brentford fan and yes, I see this as London Irish's home ground. I expect it to be a long term arrangement where they stage all their home matches at our stadium.

As for your analogy, well is my own home/house really mine if I have a mortgage and am paying that back to a bank?

Yes, I know it will be mine one day, but that could take 20+ years. LI managed around 20 years at Reading before leaving for their new home.
Their new "rented home" that is owned by someone else. :judge:
 

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Their new "rented home" that is owned by someone else. :judge:
And that “someone else” has given their okay for another Club to use Lionel Road as their own home. I don’t get what the issue is?
 

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Seeing as London Irish currently play in the premiership and we are in the championship I don’t see a issue, however if we get promoted I will be furious if I am asked to give up my seat when we play them.
 

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it is as much their home/space as it is
Yes. Like St Andrews is as much Coventry City’s ‘home’ as Birmingham City’s.

I think we’re clearly talking entirely different languages when it comes to what a football club, its history, and its home ground means to its supporters and identity. It’s probably best if you stay thinking that Brentford FC moved out of its base since 1904 to ground share equally with a rugby club. I’ll stick to believing we moved from Griffin Park to our new, permanent, and purpose built home where, for whatever reason, we’ve entered into a temporary arrangement with a tenant who is paying rent to stay there for the time being. As long as they keep sending in the cheques, don’t damage the pitch, and don’t overstay their welcome I’m cool with that.
 

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No issue at All with me, it was always the clubs intention to ground share, at championship level we have a 17,500 capacity which is small.unlike gp we can maximise our earnings by keeping the ground open more than once every fortnight. Watched the li on the box, we have people at the club that want to maximise our income, that is the right thing to do., and while LI pay the money they have as much right to be here as we do. I never want to see the day that we start selling off bits of the ground as we did at gp
 

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Usual plums embarrassing themselves on social media in response to the London Irish related posts coming via our channels today
 

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And that “someone else” has given their okay for another Club to use Lionel Road as their own home. I don’t get what the issue is?
Im not saying there is an issue or no one has given them permission. Im very much on board.

Chill out.
 

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Well, reading on here, and looking at comments on the LI and Bees Twitter sites, this doesn't exactly seem like the most auspicious of starts to this "marriage"!!!!! 😁
 

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Sold our soul just for it to be replaced by some corporate bowl which is also rented out to some egg chasers, well in Brentford👍
 

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Yes. Like St Andrews is as much Coventry City’s ‘home’ as Birmingham City’s.

I think we’re clearly talking entirely different languages when it comes to what a football club, its history, and its home ground means to its supporters and identity. It’s probably best if you stay thinking that Brentford FC moved out of its base since 1904 to ground share equally with a rugby club. I’ll stick to believing we moved from Griffin Park to our new, permanent, and purpose built home where, for whatever reason, we’ve entered into a temporary arrangement with a tenant who is paying rent to stay there for the time being. As long as they keep sending in the cheques, don’t damage the pitch, and don’t overstay their welcome I’m cool with that.
The Coventry City situation is completly different; they have signed a one year agreement and it is literally a pitch on a matchday. There is no branding and whilst they can sell some hospitality suites/seats the majority apart from a small fee goes to Birmingham who run the service.

Ironically what Coventry wanted from the Wasps deal at the Ricoh is something similar to what London Irish appear to have with us. This is a rental agreement where they can brand, run and benefit from an income throughout the stadium on a matchday. At the Ricoh Coventry pay to rent the pitch and Wasps take everything else apart from the ticket sales hence why Coventry walked away and took the council/Wasps to court.

Griffin Park was a special place and LR will always be the new home of Brentford fc; it will in time make it's own memories and generations to come will have an identity there. I understand the importance a stadium has to a football club and I've no doubt that will be achieved at LR.

However we would be very naive not to realise decisions made at LR were business decisions. This starts with the seating; if you watched London Irish today there was no evidence the stadium was owned by Brentford; all our branding apart from the flags up at the top of the West stand (mainly out of camera view) were removed.

I don't know the length of the tendancy agreement but from watching London Irish's marketing and how they're selling general admission and hospitality tickets it's very unlikely this is short - this is a long term home for London Irish and they appear very happy with the deal, location and neutral element of the stadium - on a matchday through digital technology and branding space they can make it very much London Irish.

LR was built for Brentford fc but if we want to admit it or not and maybe the club are being diplomatic with their intentions it was built as a neutral space with business in mind. When we watched the video tour and the stadium manager talked about branding I thought is this going to be permanent Brentford branding; we seen today it isn't, the.stadium will change depending on who uses it.

We'll benefit from the income but we'd also be naive not to think pouring rights, stadium naming rights etc won't be sold with a joint Brentford/London Irish ticket. LI spent 20 years at Reading; I suspect they'll spend considerably longer with us if they ever move at all; on first impressions why would they move; to me their involvement was part of how the stadium was ultimately finished; they'll pay us rent but appear to have scope to make their own revenue throughout the stadium on matchdays.
 

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Sold our soul just for it to be replaced by some corporate bowl which is also rented out to some egg chasers, well in Brentford👍
Simple way around this! Just pay Matthew Benham the difference and we have no tennants (sp) and no loss of revenue
 

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The Coventry City situation is completly different; they have signed a one year agreement and it is literally a pitch on a matchday. There is no branding and whilst they can sell some hospitality suites/seats the majority apart from a small fee goes to Birmingham who run the service.

Ironically what Coventry wanted from the Wasps deal at the Ricoh is something similar to what London Irish appear to have with us. This is a rental agreement where they can brand, run and benefit from an income throughout the stadium on a matchday. At the Ricoh Coventry pay to rent the pitch and Wasps take everything else apart from the ticket sales hence why Coventry walked away and took the council/Wasps to court.

Griffin Park was a special place and LR will always be the new home of Brentford fc; it will in time make it's own memories and generations to come will have an identity there. I understand the importance a stadium has to a football club and I've no doubt that will be achieved at LR.

However we would be very naive not to realise decisions made at LR were business decisions. This starts with the seating; if you watched London Irish today there was no evidence the stadium was owned by Brentford; all our branding apart from the flags up at the top of the West stand (mainly out of camera view) were removed.

I don't know the length of the tendancy agreement but from watching London Irish's marketing and how they're selling general admission and hospitality tickets it's very unlikely this is short - this is a long term home for London Irish and they appear very happy with the deal, location and neutral element of the stadium - on a matchday through digital technology and branding space they can make it very much London Irish.

LR was built for Brentford fc but if we want to admit it or not and maybe the club are being diplomatic with their intentions it was built as a neutral space with business in mind. When we watched the video tour and the stadium manager talked about branding I thought is this going to be permanent Brentford branding; we seen today it isn't, the.stadium will change depending on who uses it.

We'll benefit from the income but we'd also be naive not to think pouring rights, stadium naming rights etc won't be sold with a joint Brentford/London Irish ticket. LI spent 20 years at Reading; I suspect they'll spend considerably longer with us if they ever move at all; on first impressions why would they move; to me their involvement was part of how the stadium was ultimately finished; they'll pay us rent but appear to have scope to make their own revenue throughout the stadium on matchdays.
Forgot to say I'm delighted with the deal and I think both clubs will benefit from it.
 

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Usual plums embarrassing themselves on social media in response to the London Irish related posts coming via our channels today
Thing is these plums. Do not realise the costs of running a football club. I learnt this when i shook a bucket outside the New rd, i was astounded by the amount of fans that did not know that we were financially in the sh*t. The type that will blame MB. for not putting enough money in, outragious
 

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And your plan to keep to club viable is?

:pop:
Not my job to solve that.

All I expect is that we have our own brand new ground that we don’t have to share, have affordable priced tickets, never sell any of our best players, keep buying new players and are in, at least, the top six of the championship every year, if not the premier league.
 

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Our players would greatly benefit from a few training sessions with LI. They wouldn't get knocked off the ball so easily and they'd learn some rude songs.
 

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Did anybody kick up this much fuss when London Broncos played at Griffin Park (2002-06) they were originally called Fulham R.L.F.C and started out at Craven Cottage. Or when Chelsea reserves played home games at GP?
 
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Not sure why rugby clubs seldom build their own stadiums?
Err, most already have their own stadiums.

Of those in the Premiership only London Irish and Wasps (both displaced from London in days gone by) share football stadiums.

Bristol's owner also owns Bristol City. No surprise they share Ashton Gate.
 

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Not my job to solve that.

All I expect is that we have our own brand new ground that we don’t have to share, have affordable priced tickets, never sell any of our best players, keep buying new players and are in, at least, the top six of the championship every year, if not the premier league.
I take it you forgot the fishing emoji.

Money doesn't grow on trees to fund all you expect. Perhaps you would consider buying and funding the club? Thought not.
 
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It’s peanuts compared to our transfer revenue. It might have looked attractive five years ago but I’m not sure it stacks up now.
Might as well stop charging for tickets too in that case.
 

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Might as well stop charging for tickets too in that case.
What? Can you imagine the endless byzantine debate over who was most deserving of the free tickets?
 

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It’s peanuts compared to our transfer revenue. It might have looked attractive five years ago but I’m not sure it stacks up now.
You should get in touch with the club and run through your calculations, maybe there is something they are missing? From memory we made changes to the deal within the last 24 months. We have done very well from transfer revenue but its not guaranteed that we can keep on topping it up with as much success.
 

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Sold our soul just for it to be replaced by some corporate bowl which is also rented out to some egg chasers, well in Brentford👍
Cheerio then 👋🏻

Off to support Fulham are ya? 👀
 

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Not my job to solve that.

All I expect is that we have our own brand new ground that we don’t have to share, have affordable priced tickets, never sell any of our best players, keep buying new players and are in, at least, the top six of the championship every year, if not the premier league.

Some like yourself need a reality check. The business deal with LI helps keeps us financially sustainable. How many clubs around us are suffering, losing shed loads of money each season. MB is making long term decisions for this club to keep us at this level or higher for the future, not for a quick few years of success. I wish the brainless morons of some we have could actually stop to think for one moemnt. His investment is about the longevity. But hey if you happy to lose millions of your own money in the journey then be my guess.
 

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Some like yourself need a reality check. The business deal with LI helps keeps us financially sustainable. How many clubs around us are suffering, losing shed loads of money each season. MB is making long term decisions for this club to keep us at this level or higher for the future, not for a quick few years of success. I wish the brainless morons of some we have could actually stop to think for one moemnt. His investment is about the longevity. But hey if you happy to lose millions of your own money in the journey then be my guess.
MB's also got his next yacht to think about. Apparently Philip Green might have a good one up for sale............
 

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Our players would greatly benefit from a few training sessions with LI. They wouldn't get knocked off the ball so easily and they'd learn some rude songs.
I thought Mbeumo had been having shooting lessons with them and was going for conversions
 

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L.I. beat Leicester Tigers at their new home on Sunday. Has anyone mentioned that ? 🏉 🇮🇪 😁
 
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I’m more worried about the state of the pitch after than hurting LIs feelings...any updates ? And are those horrid rugby lines going to be very visible when WE play (like at Hull :() ??
 

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I’m more worried about the state of the pitch after than hurting LIs feelings...any updates ? And are those horrid rugby lines going to be very visible when WE play (like at Hull :() ??
Lines will probably show up. They do/did at Reading and Bristol City!
 

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MB is, at this very minute, out on the pitch scrubbing the rugger lines off with the help of soapy water in a bucket and a big yellow sponge.
Not Eddie Lyons' bucket and sponge I hope?!!
 

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