Luka Racic - Signs to June 2023 - On loan to Northampton Town (1 Viewer)

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Is it really beneficial for anyone for Racic to sit here for another season making 5-10 apps max?

If Sorensen isn't going to make it then let him go permanently.
Sorensen is 21. Im not convinced he’s a write off yet but, yes, prefer Racic myself
 

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Surely won't be happy as 4th choice centre half behind Pontus, Ethan, and newbie Goode.

I could see us keeping Sorensen as fourth choice and left-footed cover and loaning out Racic as he's definitely ready to play at L1/Champ level IMO.
Gone to Northampton on loan, presumably to fill the void of Goode.
 

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Good luck to him, I think he's got immense potential
 

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Good move for Racic, looking forward to seeing how he gets on. Seems like we're trying to up the level of our back up perhaps? Wouldn't be surprised to see Sorenson go out too...
 

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A good move for him. Should get games as I believe Cobblers have lost all their CBs. They don’t play very pretty football, but Curle should be a good coach of CBs given that he played there himself, and for England.
 

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Interesting that only a few years ago we were the lower league 'finishing school' for young players with potential from the top two divisions, and now the roles are reversed. Mind you, i was thinking of players like John Bostock and Saido Berahaino, but you get my drift!!
 

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Great move for him. Mads 4th choice if Jeanvier leaves?
I will not be surprised if Mads returns to Wimbledon where he has unfinished business. Well thought of there. Why would Jeanvier leave he played 26 times for us last season is an excellent back up, and will not improve his earnings anywhere else. Has two years left on his contract to 2022 when he will be 30.
 

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Luka Goode move for him!
 

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Why? Played 26 times for us last season. He will be happy with that. Will not earn more anywhere else.
CBs Jansson, Pinnock, Jeanvier, Goode with Dalsgaard able to move there if need be seems like a pretty solid selection..
 

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Good(e) move for Luka - should thrive at League One level. Mads will then be 4th choice on the assumption that JJ leaves or otherwise could go back out on loan as well which leaves our 4 first choice CB's looking much stronger than last season.
 

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Good(e) move for Luka - should thrive at League One level. Mads will then be 4th choice on the assumption that JJ leaves or otherwise could go back out on loan as well which leaves our 4 first choice CB's looking much stronger than last season.
I'd be surprised if Mads is left as 4th choice at the moment. More likely he'll go out on loan again..
 

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A very good move for Luka, Regular games for him is what he needs, hopefully he will get them there and come back a more developed and experienced player.
 

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Maybe the old alliance with Northampton Town will be rekindled, as circa 2012-2014 we loaned them Oyeleke, Dallas and Norris, all of whom went on to make careers for "theirselves".
 

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I wonder if Mads would go there as well. They know each other's game and NT need players in that position.
 

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Why? Played 26 times for us last season. He will be happy with that. Will not earn more anywhere else.
Played in about half of our matches. And only did so because of PJ's injury. We've now got someone else in his position. He is a year older. I'd wanna get rid ASAP.
 

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Played in about half of our matches. And only did so because of PJ's injury. We've now got someone else in his position. He is a year older. I'd wanna get rid ASAP.
In that case Sorrossen will not be able to go out on loan, and at his age he needs to play first team football. It sounds as if Jeanvier he has upset you?
 

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Played in about half of our matches. And only did so because of PJ's injury. We've now got someone else in his position. He is a year older. I'd wanna get rid ASAP.
A bit strong don't you think?
 

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Pleased for Racic. I think this is a good move for all parties. Really rate Racic and can see him being an important player for us season after next.
 

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In that case Sorrossen will not be able to go out on loan, and at his age he needs to play first team football. It sounds as if Jeanvier he has upset you?
Sorensen can probably go on loan anyway if Dalsgaard can deputise as 4th choice CB next season and we bring in another RB (as all the noises suggest).
Jeanvier hasn't upset me as such, he's just not good enough to start and I don't see the point in having a player of his age on the books taking up a salary if we can get rid.
 

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Jeanvier hasn't upset me as such, he's just not good enough to start and I don't see the point in having a player of his age on the books taking up a salary if we can get rid.
I think that’s massively harsh. He was doing pretty well in his last run of games I seem to remember. Loves a tackle and passing is no worse than Pontus’. Not as reliable in the air though.. Wouldn’t have him as first choice given the options but equally wouldn’t be worried if he started. That said I’m hoping that Goode has more about him on the ball as that’s an area we’re missing at CB especially now Racic has gone.. If he’s happy to stay and fight for a place I’d be happy with that. Would certainly have him ahead of Dalsgaard and Sorenson..
 
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I think that’s massively harsh. He was doing pretty well in his last run of games I seem to remember. Loves a tackle and passing is no worse than Pontus’. Not as reliable in the air though.. Wouldn’t have him as first choice given the options but equally wouldn’t be worried if he started. That said I’m hoping that Goode has more about him on the ball as that’s an area we’re missing at CB especially now Racic has gone.. If he’s happy to stay and fight for a place I’d be happy with that. Would certainly have him ahead of Dalsgaard and Sorenson..
I think you also have to consider what JJ wants. Is he a first choice? No. Is he first reserve? No. What’s the point in us keeping him and at his age he needs to play.

I’m sure he will go.
 

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Played in about half of our matches. And only did so because of PJ's injury. We've now got someone else in his position. He is a year older. I'd wanna get rid ASAP.
Good point, though totally untrue. He started the vast majority of matches alongside Pontus, until he managed to get himself sent off at Wigan, after which Pinnock took over. Other than that, you're completely right.
 

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Good point, though totally untrue. He started the vast majority of matches alongside Pontus, until he managed to get himself sent off at Wigan, after which Pinnock took over. Other than that, you're completely right.
Both points are true.
 

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I think you also have to consider what JJ wants. Is he a first choice? No. Is he first reserve? No. What’s the point in us keeping him and at his age he needs to play.

I’m sure he will go.
well I guess it depends how quickly this lad settles in? We also need cover for the left side of the pair which is where JJ started the season. I wouldn't be surprised if he did want to go but I don't buy this idea that he's so awful we wouldn't start with him. He's a good solid CB at this level. We probably need that little bit more to get promoted though and hopefully Goode will bring that (or A.N Other). I do think we'd want 4 CBs in the squad and not sure Mads is good enough to be the 4th if JJ goes...
 

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Love the B team but are we getting to such an ever improving level in the 1st team that anyone good enough to be in it won't go the B team route? Hope not but maybe Luca typical of a player falling somewhere between the two levels?
 

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Love the B team but are we getting to such an ever improving level in the 1st team that anyone good enough to be in it won't go the B team route? Hope not but maybe Luca typical of a player falling somewhere between the two levels?
I imagine the powers that be have foreseen this and hence the inbetweeners are getting L1 and L2 loans. The incentive to break into the first team should still be there for prospective B teamers, as even if you become an inbetweener, L1 and L2 loans are a way bigger possibility from that position...as opposed to the quality of loan available while still in the B team, which seems to be bottom of L2/Scottish Champ/Conference at best.
 

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I imagine the powers that be have foreseen this and hence the inbetweeners are getting L1 and L2 loans. The incentive to break into the first team should still be there for prospective B teamers, as even if you become an inbetweener, L1 and L2 loans are a way bigger possibility from that position...as opposed to the quality of loan available while still in the B team, which seems to be bottom of L2/Scottish Champ/Conference at best.
Important for us to identify clubs that we can work with to our mutual benefit ie AFC Wimbledon and now Northampton Town.
 

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I imagine the powers that be have foreseen this and hence the inbetweeners are getting L1 and L2 loans. The incentive to break into the first team should still be there for prospective B teamers, as even if you become an inbetweener, L1 and L2 loans are a way bigger possibility from that position...as opposed to the quality of loan available while still in the B team, which seems to be bottom of L2/Scottish Champ/Conference at best.
B Teamers can prove their technical abilities, positional sense and team contributions at Jersey Road and in B Team games but going out on loan can prove their ability to perform in a continuous run of competitive games as well. In our current position, that's the only way they can do it, as sitting on the first team bench will give them very few minutes. I expect to see a few more go out.
 

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B Teamers can prove their technical abilities, positional sense and team contributions at Jersey Road and in B Team games but going out on loan can prove their ability to perform in a continuous run of competitive games as well. In our current position, that's the only way they can do it, as sitting on the first team bench will give them very few minutes. I expect to see a few more go out.
Also we have to consider we may be limited to squad of 25, I think we currently have 27
 

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Also we have to consider we may be limited to squad of 25, I think we currently have 27
My understanding of the proposals is that it is 25 over 21's for the league and won't apply to cup competitions. So we may be able to add some younger players over the number. I think it also included a minimum of 8 home-grown players.
 

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Was subbed last night a minute into the second half. They lost 3-1, but the score was 1-1 when he went off. Northampton are playing Wimbledon on Saturday. Could be Racic v Oksanen.
 

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Was subbed last night a minute into the second half. They lost 3-1, but the score was 1-1 when he went off. Northampton are playing Wimbledon on Saturday. Could be Racic v Oksanen.
A minute? Wasn't worth coming back out. Injury related?
 

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A minute? Wasn't worth coming back out. Injury related?
It didn't say so.

Shortly after the equaliser the Cobblers were forced into making a change after goalscorer Mills picked up an injury, Morgan Roberts coming on for the final few minutes of the first half as Baily Cargill spurned a good chance to put the Dons in front. There was then another injury blow for Keith Curle with Harry Smith having to be replaced by Chris Lines.

The Cobblers third and final change came at half-time with Joe Martin on for Luka Racic.


Hopefully just trying to change things, but it didin't work I guess.
 

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It didn't say so.

Shortly after the equaliser the Cobblers were forced into making a change after goalscorer Mills picked up an injury, Morgan Roberts coming on for the final few minutes of the first half as Baily Cargill spurned a good chance to put the Dons in front. There was then another injury blow for Keith Curle with Harry Smith having to be replaced by Chris Lines.

The Cobblers third and final change came at half-time with Joe Martin on for Luka Racic.


Hopefully just trying to change things, but it didin't work I guess.
If the time was stated as 46 that usually denotes a half time substitution
 

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We made a first-half substitution in a JPT game against AFC Wimbledon in 2013 to get around the requirement for a minimum number of first-team players starting the game. I think it was Sheffield Wednesday who took things even further by making a change in the first 5 minutes when they were in League 1 too.

If that rule is still in force, then it could be an explanation.
 

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We made a first-half substitution in a JPT game against AFC Wimbledon in 2013 to get around the requirement for a minimum number of first-team players starting the game. I think it was Sheffield Wednesday who took things even further by making a change in the first 5 minutes when they were in League 1 too.

If that rule is still in force, then it could be an explanation.
I won't start shouting but it appears the reason for the withdrawal was an injury and he did not come out for the second half
 

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